Barclays change phone app logo to pride flag. Some people unhappy

whomitconcerns

So personally I couldn't care less what my icons look like. But curious what anyone else thinks?

There are a good few new app reviews added stating that some people don't want political or social ideas "pushed" on them, and they will now change banks. ie Being "forced" to have the pride flag on their phones.

Just to use a completely ridiculous example, would it be ok for a bank with an anti abortion belief to change the icon to a dead baby for a week?

Is this madness?

Edit: it's just made the daily fail now
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7200641/Mixed-response-Barclays-rainbow-app-design.html

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

I have nothing against the pride movement, I do have an issue with it being forced upon me.

I don't take part in any pride parades, I don't wear any rainbow lanyard at work or sport any clothing etc. Barclays can support the movement too but why force that upon me? I have no interest... It doesn't make me a homophobe either.

If somebody does not want political or social ideas pushed on them, respect that. A lot of companies seem to be jumping on these movements as a PR stunt. What was their stance before the movement became mainstream?

Fann Linn

Or why not put an Israeli flag or Palestinian flag on it?

Or better still, why not bother getting involved with all of this PC palaver and just sell your products or services.

Guy:Incognito

Fann Linn wrote: »

Or better still, why not bother getting involved with all of this PC palaver and just sell your products or services.

Or even better still, the company can do whatever the fook it likes.

DrPhilG

Fann Linn

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Or even better still, the company can do whatever the fook it likes.

As can its customers.

DrPhilG

Joking aside, I'm with the previous posters. I don't give a hoot who does what with who, but I find the marketing ploys of all these companies to be very fake.

mad muffin

Should be an option for whom ever wants it.

Poor form for any company/corporation/institution to foist its views on others.

FunLover18

whomitconcerns wrote: »

Just to use a completely ridiculous example, would it be ok for a bank with an anti abortion belief to change the icon to a dead baby for a week?

You're right, it is a completely ridiculous example.

Beechwoodspark

Would they be so quick to support traveller pride

lbc2019

As a gay man I find this bandwagon jumping by corporations a tad nauseating. How have they contributed to the LGBT cause? Don't mention "awareness"... Now I know how the Christians must feel about Christmas...

branie2

I think it's a great idea

whomitconcerns

FunLover18 wrote: »

You're right, it is a completely ridiculous example.

It's meant to be... That's the point...I wanted to make sure no one thought of it as a comparison..

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Or even better still, the company can do whatever the fook it likes.

Not without consequence.

Your Face

I'm a raging heterosexual and I don't feel like it's been forced on me.
It's just a company jumping on a fashionable bandwagon.For example, every year during the 6 Nations every company has some rugby reference.
It is the way of things.

MrFresh

Fann Linn wrote: »

As can its customers.

Exactly. If my bank posted an anti pride logo I'd simply leave them. Nothing stopping Barclay's anti pride customers doing the same.

lbc2019

Wait there's no Barclays in Ireland!

peddlelies

MrFresh wrote: »

Exactly. If my bank posted an anti pride logo I'd simply leave them. Nothing stopping Barclay's anti pride customers doing the same.

False equivalence. Try not being disingenuous.

suicide_circus

corporations engaging in popular social causes makes me want to vomit. where were they when it was really difficult to be gay?

lbc2019

suicide_circus wrote: »

corporations engaging in popular social causes makes me want to vomit. where were they when it was really difficult to be gay?

No where near! I know which brands have always supported the LGBT movement, I know where to spend my money!

Fann Linn

lbc2019 wrote: »

Wait there's no Barclays in Ireland!

There was a barclays in Ireland over 20 years ago if I remember correctly. St. Stephens Green. I was working in the UK at the time but was a barclays customer and one of the contact addresses was for a place down there.

Stark

They should change it to the Grindr logo.

MrFresh

peddlelies wrote: »

False equivalence.

How so?

lbc2019

Stark wrote: »

They should change it to the Grindr logo.

With Barclays fees you'll be guaranteed to be fcuked either way!

lawred2

Just the latest social good vibes movement for soulless corporations to cynically exploit.

Oh yeah Apple you're so right on and virtuous what with your support of Western civil rights movements. Pity about your mass exploitation of cheap eastern labor though. Not exactly a consistent position morally speaking.

Ultimate Seduction

You don't have to be "anti pride" to not want it's symbol on your home screen.

You don't have to be "anti equality" to not want pride stuff shoved down your throat by corporations.

lawred2

Your Face wrote: »

I'm a raging heterosexual and I don't feel like it's been forced on me.
It's just a company jumping on a fashionable bandwagon.For example, every year during the 6 Nations every company has some rugby reference.
It is the way of things.

A raging heterosexual? lol

JohnnyFlash

The friendly face of capitalism

Richard Hillman

Do you remember when it was "what 2 consensual adults do in their own homes is none of our business. It doesn't effect you either way". People could get on board with that, even if they found it repulsive.

It's not really like that anymore, is it?

the_syco

whomitconcerns wrote: »

Edit: it's just made the daily fail now
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7200641/Mixed-response-Barclays-rainbow-app-design.html

I love that it offends the Daily Fail readers!

lawred2

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Do you remember when it was "what 2 consensual adults do in their own homes is none of our business. It doesn't effect you either way". People could get on board with that, even if they found it repulsive.

It's not really like that anymore, is it?

Well now calling it repulsive is not exactly minding your own business

lbc2019

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Do you remember when it was "what 2 consensual adults do in their own homes is none of our business. It doesn't effect you either way". People could get on board with that, even if they found it repulsive.

It's not really like that anymore, is it?

The nerve!

lbc2019

the_syco wrote: »

I love that it offends the Daily Fail readers!

Everything offends them.

peddlelies

MrFresh wrote: »

How so?

Because not promoting something isn't the same as disavowing it.

FunLover18

whomitconcerns wrote: »

It's meant to be... That's the point...I wanted to make sure no one thought of it as a comparison..

But you are comparing it. Otherwise why bring it up?

Guy:Incognito

Fann Linn wrote: »

As can its customers.

Who said otherwise?

All I see is people moaning about companies "forcing" stuff on them.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

lawred2 wrote: »

Just the latest social good vibes movement for soulless corporations to cynically exploit.

Oh yeah Apple you're so right on and virtuous what with your support of Western civil rights movements. Pity about your mass exploitation of cheap eastern labor though. Not exactly a consistent position morally speaking.

How did Apple come into this?

Changing the icons is a pretty useless update in my opinion and it’s totally cost free signalling and bandwagon jumping.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

Who said otherwise?

All I see is people moaning about companies "forcing" stuff on them.

People moaned about a free U2 album a few years back. People are complainers.

lawred2

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

How did Apple come into this?

Changing the icons is a pretty useless update in my opinion and it’s totally cost free signalling and bandwagon jumping.

Just an example corporation.. could have picked any. They all love the latest cause célèbre to exploit

Guy:Incognito

Richard Hillman wrote: »

Do you remember when it was "what 2 consensual adults do in their own homes is none of our business. It doesn't effect you either way". People could get on board with that, even if they found it repulsive.

It's not really like that anymore, is it?

How is it not?

I'm in no way affected by any gay people. I'm sure some of them even walk near me on the street and I dont even notice, imagine that.

how has Barclays normal logo affected you? Surely them changing it temporarily on an app cant actually affect you anymore than the normal one?
Do rainbow flags give you flashbacks to your more "liberal" youth?

Franz Von Peppercorn II

lawred2 wrote: »

Just an example corporation

Unless they changed their logo, not relevant.

That said Apple did have a rainbow logo back when it was neither profitable nor popular.

Not that it was gay related.

Guy:Incognito

Franz Von Peppercorn II wrote: »

People moaned about a free U2 album a few years back. People are complainers.

In fairness, that was valid. :pac:

Hercule Poirot

My own personal thought is that there's a rush by society in general to make up for the mistreatment and revulsion that homosexuals were put under for decades before we finally realised that hey, homosexuals are people too!

It's a bit like meeting your school bully at a reunion and they spend the night telling you how sorry they are and keep buying you drinks to make up for it - it's annoying and it doesn't change the past

Yay, you've changed, there's no need to make a big deal out of it, just stop being a dick and we'll get along fine

mikemac2

Sure every corporation has a diversity committee these days. You can call yourself a straight ally and get a rainbow lanyard yaay

They will still have bullying cases, others on stress leave and more made compulsory redundant

When HR say talk to us, our door is open and we care then run away

weke wofi

FunLover18 wrote: »

whomitconcerns wrote: »

would it be ok for a bank with an anti abortion belief to change the icon to a dead baby for a week?

You're right, it is a completely ridiculous example.

or if they changed to a Repeal logo before the referendum here?

In fairness, they are probably just trying to make up for the years they supported the apartheid regime in South Africa.

FunLover18

weke wofi wrote: »

or if they changed to a Repeal logo before the referendum here?

They're not comparable and the OP has derailed his own thread by bringing it up.

meeeeh

the_syco wrote: »

I love that it offends the Daily Fail readers!

Guardian had a few articles by gay writters who were less than enthusiastic about woke advertising. Lgbt (lettuce, guacamole, beacon, tomato) sandwiches from m&s were not overly enthusiastically recieved.

I think it's cynical, it's jumping on a bandwagon and it's treating people like idiots. I'd be a lot more interested to find out what percentage of Barclays top brass are gay or can be openly gay without harming their career prospects. And since we are interested in diversity, how many of them did not attend private schools and read classics and modern history in Oxbridge (an education that seems to be very relevant to become an investment banker).

As a straight person it's very hard to go against this because you are quickly accused of homophobia but to me it just smells of Pepsi ad where one of the Jenners or Kardashians brought together riot police and protesters with a Pepsi.

MrFresh

peddlelies wrote: »

Because not promoting something isn't the same as disavowing it.

That's correct. But pretending like an app logo is forcing pride on you seems pretty anti pride.

peddlelies

MrFresh wrote: »

That's correct. But pretending like an app logo is forcing pride on you seems pretty anti pride.

Don't get the logic there I'm afraid. I don't think Businesses should be getting involved with Politics, that's about the sum of it.

DrPhilG

meeeeh wrote: »

Lgbt (lettuce, guacamole, beacon, tomato) sandwiches from m&s were not overly enthusiastically recieved.

Lol, you're taking the pi$s?