Girl (12) whose arm was scalded when tea carried under her elbow spilled settles for

AmberGold · 01-07-2019 05:45PM #1

WTF, should have sued her Grandmother for not minding her properly.

These awards need to stopped, having said that it’s a bit hard when the political elite are claiming also.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/girl-12-whose-arm-was-scalded-when-tea-carried-under-her-elbow-spilled-settles-for-85k-38270105.html

kneemos · 01-07-2019 05:53PM

How could she carry two cups and a cookie?

InTheShadows · 01-07-2019 05:59PM

FG should be leading from the front as an example to our society on these insurance claims but as we all know are sorely lacking in any sort of credibility.

the_pen_turner · 01-07-2019 06:00PM

Crazy. How is Starbucks in any way responsible. 2 coffees and a cookie. What kind of stupid do you need to be to put the coffee under your arm. She had 2 mildly dangerous items and 2 hands to carry them. Put the cookie in your pocket or ask for a tray.

God help her if she got a job as a waitress where she would have to carry 10 pint glasses or a load of plates etc.

01-07-2019 06:04PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Crazy. How is Starbucks in any way responsible. 2 coffees and a cookie. What kind of stupid do you need to be to put the coffee under your arm. She had 2 mildly dangerous items and 2 hands to carry them. Put the cookie in your pocket or ask for a tray.

God help her if she got a job as a waitress where she would have to carry 10 pint glasses or a load of plates etc.

I don't think any 12 year old girl is going to be able to carry 10 pints

kneemos · 01-07-2019 06:07PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Crazy. How is Starbucks in any way responsible. 2 coffees and a cookie. What kind of stupid do you need to be to put the coffee under your arm. She had 2 mildly dangerous items and 2 hands to carry them. Put the cookie in your pocket or ask for a tray.

God help her if she got a job as a waitress where she would have to carry 10 pint glasses or a load of plates etc.

2 mildly dangerous items. A kid. Give her a tray.

the_pen_turner · 01-07-2019 06:07PM

riffmongous wrote: »

I don't think any 12 year old girl is going to be able to carry 10 pints

Maybe in the future. I often see waitresses and waiter carrying 10 pint glasses. Very easy do . 6 on top of each other resting into the curve below your shoulder and 4 in the other hand

the_pen_turner · 01-07-2019 06:10PM

kneemos wrote: »

2 mildly dangerous items. A kid. Give her a tray.

Would you give a 12 year old a cup of tea. Yes. Most are perfectly capable of not spilling it on themselves

How is this any different. Cups with lids are a lot safer than a normal open cup if used properly

kneemos · 01-07-2019 06:14PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Would you give a 12 year old a cup of tea. Yes. Most are perfectly capable of not spilling it on themselves

How is this any different. Cups with lids are a lot safer than a normal open cup if used properly

She was given two cups and a cookie.
Kids don't have the motor abilities or experience of adults.
You'd have to be an idiot to hand a twelve year old two hot cups and a third item to manage.

Thephantomsmask · 01-07-2019 06:14PM

Frappucino is a cold coffee, why didn't she stick that under her oxter instead of the hot tea?

hynesie08 · 01-07-2019 06:16PM

Thephantomsmask wrote: »

Frappucino is a cold coffee, why didn't she stick that under her oxter instead of the hot tea?

Because she was 12??

c.p.w.g.w · 01-07-2019 06:17PM

That's one stupid child...if it were mine I'd have considered it s good lesson on how not to carry hot beverages.

I knew how to carry stuff at 12, if unsure only carry one thing at a time

the_pen_turner · 01-07-2019 06:18PM

kneemos wrote: »

She was given two cups and a cookie.
Kids don't have the motor abilities or experience of adults.
You'd have to be an idiot to hand a twelve year old two hot cups and a third item to manage.

I see my 2 young cousins and a few cousins kids regularly carry stuff around with2 hands and they are younger than that. Even the smallest one will carry stuff on at a time because she knows she cannot carry 2 together.
I don't see why it's the shops fault that the child picked up 3 things it couldn't handle at one time

Acedia. · 01-07-2019 06:19PM

How about making two trips to get the three items? That's a lazy man's load she was carrying

is_that_so · 01-07-2019 06:20PM

Somewhat excessive award but justified case and blindingly obvious she should have been given a tray. What proportion might legal people get out of that?

Spanish Eyes · 01-07-2019 06:21PM

At this stage it's not that she was awarded damages, that is a given unless there is proof of fraud, it is the amount WTF, €85,000!

FG need to lead from the front on this but bless them, they are embarrassed by the shenanigans of a certain TD.

Plumbthedepths · 01-07-2019 06:21PM

InTheShadows wrote:

FG should be leading from the front as an example to our society on these insurance claims but as we all know are sorely lacking in any sort of credibility.

Maria Bailey and Alan Farrell, enough said.

branie2 · 01-07-2019 06:24PM

Health and safety

01-07-2019 06:24PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

Maybe in the future. I often see waitresses and waiter carrying 10 pint glasses. Very easy do . 6 on top of each other resting into the curve below your shoulder and 4 in the other hand

Often? I don't think I've ever seen it except with german style handled glasses. When I worked in a pub if you had more than 4 you just took a tray, the girls if they had 3 even

Regardless they all knew how to do it at 12 years old did they?

01-07-2019 06:26PM

What an interesting article from the point-of-view of its construction.

The headline is the cost awarded, but it isn't until the fifth and sixth paragraphs we learn that the girl needed immediate medical attention, that she has permanent scarring, and she needed some kind of plastic surgery.

As part of their training, journalists are taught to put at the beginning of the article the most important facts (depending on the publication, this will be either serious facts or just the drama; in this case, drama)

When you look at the actual physical costs to this girl through her permanent scarring, and the fact that all of this could have been avoided by offering her a tray (that's just common sense), it doesn't seem quite so outrageous.

is_that_so · 01-07-2019 06:26PM

the_pen_turner wrote: »

I see my 2 young cousins and a few cousins kids regularly carry stuff around with2 hands and they are younger than that. Even the smallest one will carry stuff on at a time because she knows she cannot carry 2 together.
I don't see why it's the shops fault that the child picked up 3 things it couldn't handle at one time

If I get two things in my local shop they automatically offer me a bag. It really should be the same here, just part of the customer experience.

is_that_so · 01-07-2019 06:28PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

What an interesting article from the point-of-view of its construction.

The headline is the cost awarded, but it isn't until the fifth and sixth paragraphs we learn that the girl needed immediate medical attention, that she has permanent scarring, and she needed some kind of plastic surgery.

As part of their training, journalists are taught to put at the beginning of the article the most important facts (depending on the publication, this will be either serious facts or just the drama; in this case, drama)

When you look at the actual physical costs to this girl through the permanent scarring, and the fact that all of this could have been avoided, it doesn't seem quite so outrageous.

Except where they do compo pieces and they want to stir up the outrage first!

weke wofi · 01-07-2019 06:53PM

branie2 wrote: »

Health and safety

gone mad

Gatling · 01-07-2019 06:56PM

is_that_so wrote: »

Somewhat excessive award but justified case and blindingly obvious she should have been given a tray.

And if she turned down the tray or drink carrier ?

gimli2112 · 01-07-2019 07:00PM

Cup in each hand and cookie in mouth, this is not rocket science.

€85K seems a huge offer but it was made by the defendant, not sure why it was in court but I only half read the article as I'm thinking of cookies.

Cryptopagan · 01-07-2019 07:05PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

What an interesting article from the point-of-view of its construction.

The headline is the cost awarded, but it isn't until the fifth and sixth paragraphs we learn that the girl needed immediate medical attention, that she has permanent scarring, and she needed some kind of plastic surgery.

As part of their training, journalists are taught to put at the beginning of the article the most important facts (depending on the publication, this will be either serious facts or just the drama; in this case, drama)

When you look at the actual physical costs to this girl through her permanent scarring, and the fact that all of this could have been avoided by offering her a tray (that's just common sense), it doesn't seem quite so outrageous.

That’s horrible to happen to someone at that age.

Cee-Jay-Cee · 01-07-2019 07:05PM

kneemos wrote: »

She was given two cups and a cookie.
Kids don't have the motor abilities or experience of adults.
You'd have to be an idiot to hand a twelve year old two hot cups and a third item to manage.

I have never been ‘handed’ coffee or cookies, they’re placed on the counter in front of the customer and it’s up to the customer pick them up or ask for a tray or whatever we they need to carry them. If her grandmother was able to walk in to the shop herself then surely she could have carried one of the cups.

Another example of **** in society expecting compensation for their own incompetency/stupidity. In this case the **** are the child’s parents/grandmother.

Cryptopagan · 01-07-2019 07:06PM

gimli2112 wrote: »

Cup in each hand and cookie in mouth, this is not rocket science.

€85K seems a huge offer but it was made by the defendant, not sure why it was in court but I only half read the article as I'm thinking of cookies.

You’re talking about a child, for christs sake. They do stupid things, which is why adults have to be responsible around them.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i · 01-07-2019 07:08PM

Thephantomsmask wrote: »

Frappucino is a cold coffee, why didn't she stick that under her oxter instead of the hot tea?

How would she have been able to claim then???

I am hoping something mildly inconvenient happens to me soon before they close the door on these claims.

I could trip over a lizard in pheonix park or get some sand in my eyes at sandymount...

Cryptopagan · 01-07-2019 07:09PM

Eliseo Late Archer wrote: »

How would she have been able to claim then???

I am hoping something mildly inconvenient happens to me soon before they close the door on these claims.

I could trip over a lizard in pheonix park or get some sand in my eyes at sandymount...

I’m sure a 12 year old deliberately scalded herself causing permanent scarring to get compo.

gozunda · 01-07-2019 07:10PM

Most expensive cup of tea in the state?

Girl (12) whose arm was scalded when tea carried under her elbow spilled settles for

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