more unadulterated man bashing

Deebles McBeebles · 27-06-2019 10:34AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Ill start:

Blue hair

A prevalence for throwing cats.

givyjoe · 27-06-2019 10:34AM

reg114 wrote: »

No I dont think men should necessarily have to apologise for their gender but its pathetic to see men whinging about being put upon over an article. Really now, as a gender, women have had an atrocious time of it compared to men, there is simply no argument. If you are arguing the point and feeling victimised then you really dont understand what women have endured and continue to endure.

Really, simply no argument? How many men have died fighting in wars in comparison to women would you say?

Roger Hassenforder · 27-06-2019 10:34AM

reg114 wrote: »

You're equating childbirth to a kick in the nads ? Totter off into any maternity ward and watch a live delivery ... then come back to me. The arrogance and ignorance is breathtaking.

Look at you diminishing the pain of a kick in the bo11ox. Totter off; i'd suggest growing a pair, but it would require surgical intervention and i cant see how they'd get the neurology right.

I've been present at several births, NVDs, sun roofs etc., and nothing comes close to the abject and total suffering of a good punt in the bo11ox.

El_Duderino 09 · 27-06-2019 10:35AM

reg114 wrote: »

The hang up some men have about 'men bashing' is utterly laughable. Try moaning about your anti-men complex to any women and she'll rightly and very quickly put you in your place when she asks you how you enjoy enduring period pain / childbirth / menopause .. and thats just what mother nature throws at women, dont get me started about how man has treated women since the dawn of time. Men get an extortionately easy time of it in every facet of life. If you dont like the article dont read it but you have absolutely zero right to feel that as a 'man' you are being, in any way, shape or form victimised because of your sex.

The whinging some men seem to enjoy holds no weight with me. It never ceases amusing me to see men who probably consider themselves to be ‘real men’ getting so upset about any article that isn’t complementary of them.

And there are hardships that uniquely affect women like periods, childbirth and menopause. I acknowledge that and I make allowances for my Mrs when she has her period and she appreciates it.

But that doesn’t take from the fact that there are issues that either uniquely or acutely affect men.

For example narrow definitions of what a man is, can be detrimental to blokes who don’t fit the stereotype. Boys are falling behind girls in education. More men due by suicide than women. Probably because boys aren’t given the skills to deal with emotions. ‘Big boys don’t cry’ might be one of the most harmful pieces of advice imaginable.

Family courts are pretty unfair to men. Women are presumed to be the caregiver. That presumption is unhelpful to both men and women in general but in family court it’s specifically harmful to men.

ILoveYourVibes · 27-06-2019 10:36AM

Yes it's slightly man bashing albeit slightly humorously.

Some of the points dont make even sense though.

Roger Hassenforder · 27-06-2019 10:37AM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

A prevalence for throwing cats.

Or having two cats.
One cat is unforgivable, but if theres two in play, run away lads.
Run, and dont look back

Deebles McBeebles · 27-06-2019 10:37AM

Gimme A Pound wrote: »

But what you say doesn't apply in the West and I think the distinction needs to be made.

Shhhhh, she's keeping the outrage-level high and making the thread "interesting".

El_Duderino 09 · 27-06-2019 10:38AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Absolute horseshïtë

Childbirth pain has been measured ( ADP to ATP conversion rates )at about 40-50 % of the pain a kick in the bo11ox.
Evident in real life , as you'll never hear a man say, " I'd love another kick in the bo11ox",

Lol. Tearing from your V to your A is half as painful as a kick in the nuts? I question your science.

is_that_so · 27-06-2019 10:39AM

Sonics2k wrote: »

I'm sorry, I couldn't read the article due to the astounding victim complex in your post.

I got as far as number 4 before I remembered there was a fly on the wall to watch!

Roger Hassenforder · 27-06-2019 10:40AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

Lol. Tearing from your V to your A is half as painful as a kick in the nuts? I question your science.

Sssch you, I've got a live one hooked, just trying to land it

ILoveYourVibes · 27-06-2019 10:40AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

Or having two cats.
One cat is unforgivable, but if theres two in play, run away lads.
Run, and dont look back

I want three cats! :P

And yes I am crazy! Stay away!

Deebles McBeebles · 27-06-2019 10:41AM

El_Duderino 09 wrote: »

The whinging some men seem to enjoy holds no weight with me. It never ceases amusing me to see men who probably consider themselves to be ‘real men’ getting so upset about any article that isn’t complementary of them.

And there are hardships that uniquely affect women like periods, childbirth and menopause. I acknowledge that and I make allowances for my Mrs when she has her period and she appreciates it.

But that doesn’t take from the fact that there are issues that either uniquely or acutely affect men.

For example narrow definitions of what a man is, can be detrimental to blokes who don’t fit the stereotype. Boys are falling behind girls in education. More men due by suicide than women. Probably because boys aren’t given the skills to deal with emotions. ‘Big boys don’t cry’ might be one of the most harmful pieces of advice imaginable.

Family courts are pretty unfair to men. Women are presumed to be the caregiver. That presumption is unhelpful to both men and women in general but in family court it’s specifically harmful to men.

Both genders have issues is the fairest and truest thing that's been said so far. A post devoid of outrage and full of common sense and understanding.

You'd know it came from a man.

:pac:

ollkiller · 27-06-2019 10:42AM

bear1 wrote: »

Society has gotten so focused on this whole gender issue that any small things enrages either group.
Anti male article? Pissed off men.
Anti female article? Pissed off women.
Both sides will never win the argument so to further enhance non issues to the extreme only makes things worse.
Sad really.

Maybe it's just idiots wanting to be offended by something. The article in question is stupid. What do i think about it. Nothing. I'm getting a coffee now which is far more important.

kunst nugget · 27-06-2019 10:42AM

reg114 wrote: »

Lets talk about basic human rights. The right to work, the right to an education , the right to leave the house without a male chaperone, the right to marry the man of one's choosing .... 100s of millions of women globally do not have any of these fundamental human rights. So yes I stand squarely behind the fact that men have it easy and have had it easy in comparison to women.

The article is a piece of fluff and its idiotic to criticise it imo but this sort of counter criticism is ludicrous too imo. Are you genuinely saying that men in the west can't gripe about anything because women in developing countries, of which we have no influence in terms of government or societal structures, don't have as many rights as men? That's a nonsense...

Roger Hassenforder · 27-06-2019 10:42AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I want three cats! :P

And yes I am crazy! Stay away!

I dont know what to say. Recommending medical help is against forum rules.

Can you at least have them stuffed or something?

Roger Hassenforder · 27-06-2019 10:43AM

ollkiller wrote: »

Maybe it's just idiots wanting to be offended by something. The article in question is stupid. What do i think about it. Nothing. I'm getting a coffee now which is far more important.

Well thats not going to help maintain the outrage levels here

is_that_so · 27-06-2019 10:45AM

chrissb8 wrote: »

If I was her editor I would tell her to get out and only come back with something with substance and not some school magazine quality article.

It's in the style, sex & relationships section so it ticks boxes by being pure clickbait, offers nothing of any substance, it's "self-help" and seems to appeal to an audience with nothing to do except search for such nonsense. So 10/10 I'm afraid!

ILoveYourVibes · 27-06-2019 10:46AM

Roger Hassenforder wrote: »

I dont know what to say. Recommending medical help is against forum rules.

Can you at least have them stuffed or something?

This is why we can't have cute things!

Deebles McBeebles · 27-06-2019 10:47AM

kunst nugget wrote: »

The article is a piece of fluff and its idiotic to criticise it imo but this sort of counter criticism is ludicrous too imo. Are you genuinely saying that men in the west can't gripe about anything because women in developing countries, of which we have no influence in terms of government or societal structures, don't have as many rights as men? That's a nonsense...

Whhhhhhhheeeeeennnnnnn....thhhhheeee...poster talks sh*te about women's rights, thaaaats a nonsense (that's a nonsense)

Beta Ray Bill · 27-06-2019 10:48AM

Can we change this thread into a top 20 warning signs when dating someone (Doesn't matter is if it's a man or woman)
Ok I'll start:

1: Many kids with many people
2: Profession is an Artist of some description
3: FB profile says there job is: "CEO and Department of Soundness" (Or Similar)
4: Doesn't dress well/wears "Lounge Wear" outside
5: Gets very annoyed very easy
6: Watches Love Island (Or Similar)
7: A really good looking person who clearly got around a bit when they were younger and now are ready to "settle down" with the right person (I don't want that to be me)
8: A person that asks a bunch of questions, and then asks the same bunch of questions some time later to see if your story changes.
9: Crazy people
10: Insecure people
11: Does LOTS of drugs
12: People who take over a day to reply to text
13: Unreliable people
14: People that want to be "chased" when first dating. (I'm not a f*cking Cheetah or Dog or similar)
15: Going on a date with said person and their mates (with their other halves) and all the other halves are expected to become mates.
16: Being asked to do things early on (Pick me up, Drop me there, Can you do me a favour, etc)
17: Anyone that wants to be an Insta celeb
18: People with a strong sense of entitlement
19: Awfully Graaaaaand people that have no concept of the real world
20: Anyone that says that Motorbikes are Dangerous and starts telling me to not ride them! Those people can f*ck RIGHT off. I'd rather ride me bike than you, ya big annoying dope!

kunst nugget · 27-06-2019 10:48AM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

Whhhhhhhheeeeeennnnnnn....thhhhheeee...poster talks sh*te about women's rights, thaaaats a nonsense (that's a nonsense)

I've honestly no idea what point you're trying to make here...

is_that_so · 27-06-2019 10:49AM

grahambo wrote: »

Can we change this thread into a top 20 warning signs when dating someone (Doesn't matter is if it's a man or woman)
Ok I'll start:

1: Many kids with many people
2: Profession is an Artist of some description
3: FB profile says there job is: "CEO and Department of Soundness" (Or Similar)
4: Doesn't dress well/wears "Lounge Wear" outside
5: Gets very annoyed very easy
6: Watches Love Island (Or Similar)
7: A really good looking person who clearly got around a bit when they were younger and now are ready to "settle down" with the right person (I don't want that to be me)
8: A person that asks a bunch of questions, and then asks the same bunch of questions some time later to see if your story changes.
9: Crazy people
10: Insecure people
11: Does LOTS of drugs
12: People who take over a day to reply to text
13: Unreliable people
14: People that want to be "chased" when first dating. (I'm not a f*cking Cheetah or Dog or similar)
15: Going on a date with said person and their mates (with their other halves) and all the other halves are expected to become mates.
16: Being asked to do things early on (Pick me up, Drop me there, Can you do me a favour, etc)
17: Anyone that wants to be an Insta celeb
18: People with a strong sense of entitlement
19: Awfully Graaaaaand people that have no concept of the real world
20: Anyone that says that Motorbikes are Dangerous and starts telling me to not ride them! Those people can f*ck RIGHT off. I'd rather ride me bike than you, ya big annoying dope!

Feel better now?

Autecher · 27-06-2019 10:49AM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I want three cats! :P

And yes I am crazy! Stay away!

ILoveYourVibes 10 years from now:

ILoveYourVibes · 27-06-2019 10:51AM

grahambo wrote: »

Can we change this thread into a top 20 warning signs when dating someone (Doesn't matter is if it's a man or woman)
Ok I'll start:

1: Many kids with many people
2: Profession is an Artist of some description
3: FB profile says there job is: "CEO and Department of Soundness" (Or Similar)
4: Doesn't dress well/wears "Lounge Wear" outside
5: Gets very annoyed very easy
6: Watches Love Island (Or Similar)
7: A really good looking person who clearly got around a bit when they were younger and now are ready to "settle down" with the right person (I don't want that to be me)
8: A person that asks a bunch of questions, and then asks the same bunch of questions some time later to see if your story changes.
9: Crazy people
10: Insecure people
11: Does LOTS of drugs
12: People who take over a day to reply to text
13: Unreliable people
14: People that want to be "chased" when first dating. (I'm not a f*cking Cheetah or Dog or similar)
15: Going on a date with said person and their mates (with their other halves) and all the other halves are expected to become mates.
16: Being asked to do things early on (Pick me up, Drop me there, Can you do me a favour, etc)
17: Anyone that wants to be an Insta celeb
18: People with a strong sense of entitlement
19: Awfully Graaaaaand people that have no concept of the real world
20: Anyone that says that Motorbikes are Dangerous and starts telling me to not ride them! Those people can f*ck RIGHT off. I'd rather ride me bike than you, ya big annoying dope!

I tick like 50% of these boxes ...i concur!

Beta Ray Bill · 27-06-2019 10:51AM

is_that_so wrote: »

Feel better now?

No actually

ILoveYourVibes · 27-06-2019 10:54AM

Autecher wrote: »

ILoveYourVibes 10 years from now:

That's me now. Hell that's me ten yrs ago!

Buford T. Justice XIX · 27-06-2019 10:56AM

reg114 wrote: »

The hang up some men have about 'men bashing' is utterly laughable. Try moaning about your anti-men complex to any women and she'll rightly and very quickly put you in your place when she asks you how you enjoy enduring period pain / childbirth / menopause .. and thats just what mother nature throws at women, dont get me started about how man has treated women since the dawn of time. Men get an extortionately easy time of it in every facet of life. If you dont like the article dont read it but you have absolutely zero right to feel that as a 'man' you are being, in any way, shape or form victimised because of your sex.

Whenever I read comments like this I'm always reminded of the story about the Aussie Rugby player in hospital with a dislocated shoulder and much shouting as the staff tried to replace the shoulder into the proper place.

One of the nurses told him there was a woman in the next cubicle after giving birth and she didn't have half the complaining as the rugby player.

Fine, said the rugby player, try putting the baby back and tell me how you got on:D

27-06-2019 10:58AM

RobAMerc wrote: »

if this utter horse sh1t was published about the opposite sex there would be outrage. But because its about lads, tiz fair game.

I am more worried about how you came to be reading that section

blue note · 27-06-2019 11:00AM

Maybe I'm a snowflake, but I had a problem with the article. Not because I'm a man, but the writer uses the breakup of a marriage as a starting point for a funny 20 things to look out for in a relationship. Like the guy wearing crocs.

If I had gotten a list like that in a chain mail 15 years ago I'd have chuckled to myself and probably not have forwarded it on. But the 20 jokes were grand. I just don't see why you need to frame in a relationship breakdown, one with allegations of abuse in it at that.

Roger Hassenforder · 27-06-2019 11:02AM

Buford T. Justice VI wrote: »

Whenever I read comments like this I'm always reminded of the story about the Aussie Rugby player in hospital with a dislocated shoulder and much shouting as the staff tried to replace the shoulder into the proper place.

One of the nurses told him there was a woman in the next cubicle after giving birth and she didn't have half the complaining as the rugby player.

Fine, said the rugby player, try putting the baby back and tell me how you got on:D

*updates list of things more painful than childbirth:

•Kick in the bo11ox
•Dislocated shoulder

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