IFA and Factory Bitching thread.

wrangler · 12-03-2019 10:09PM

older by the day wrote: »

IF A is a money making organisation, are they still against capping the SFP at 60000 euro. In case it might be shared out fairly??

The way I see it being ''shared'' now it's anything but fair,
Farmers will sort the capping the same as they've always done

Base price · 27-03-2019 12:44AM

Dept website is now showing the number of cattle slaughtered originating from feedlots, although the link doesn't work for me.

54,000 cattle were slaughtered in Jan & Feb representing 17% of the kill for the two months and it's a hell of a lot more than the 5% the Cormac Healy was spouting about a few weeks ago.

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/animalhealthwelfare/animalidentificationmovement/cattle/bovinebirthandmovementsmonthlyreports/
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/department-now-publishing-feedlot-kill-on-monthly-basis/
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/54000-feedlot-cattle-in-2-months-calls-made-for-impact-study/

wrangler · 27-03-2019 12:58AM

Base price wrote: »

Dept website is now showing the number of cattle slaughtered originating from feedlots, although the link doesn't work for me.

54,000 cattle were slaughtered in Jan & Feb representing 17% of the kill for the two months and it's a hell of a lot more than the 5% the Cormac Healy was spouting about a few weeks ago.

https://www.agriculture.gov.ie/animalhealthwelfare/animalidentificationmovement/cattle/bovinebirthandmovementsmonthlyreports/
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/department-now-publishing-feedlot-kill-on-monthly-basis/
http://www.agriland.ie/farming-news/54000-feedlot-cattle-in-2-months-calls-made-for-impact-study/

They still don't know how many are factory owned, the feedlot farms aren't all factories and the ordinary farmers aren't all feeding for themselves, so it's stupid carry on, Cormac said that 5% was coming from factory owned cattle....no one has disproved that yet
No one's complaining when factory buyers are in the marts buying store cattle

Mooooo · 27-03-2019 01:10AM

wrangler wrote: »

They still don't know how many are factory owned, the feedlot farms aren't all factories and the ordinary farmers aren't all feeding for themselves, so it's stupid carry on, Cormac said that 5% was coming from factory owned cattle....no one has disproved that yet
No one's complaining when factory buyers are in the marts buying store cattle

The dept don't want feedlots either, particularly on a smaller scale.

wrangler · 27-03-2019 07:24AM

Mooooo wrote: »

The dept don't want feedlots either, particularly on a smaller scale.

Why do they not want them.
There has to be facilities to take cattle from restricted herds for welfare reasons at least, If feedlots weren't around there'd be a lot more cattle shot

Keep Sluicing · 27-03-2019 10:25AM

wrangler wrote: »

Why do they not want them.
There has to be facilities to take cattle from restricted herds for welfare reasons at least, If feedlots weren't around there'd be a lot more cattle shot

I was a classified as feedlot for just over a year as i was locked up, along with 2 other farmers in my parish, and all cattle would be on grass 8 months of the year. So I'd say its a lot closer to the 5% than the 17% that are in a true feedlot alright.

Mooooo · 27-03-2019 11:02AM

wrangler wrote: »

Why do they not want them.
There has to be facilities to take cattle from restricted herds for welfare reasons at least, If feedlots weren't around there'd be a lot more cattle shot

Finisher here went in to a feedlot, he's mainly a summer grazer buys culls in the spring would have em finished before winter, twas the impression he got unless it's just lads that have stock outside they don't want

wrangler · 27-03-2019 11:05AM

Keep Sluicing wrote: »

I was a classified as feedlot for just over a year as i was locked up, along with 2 other farmers in my parish, and all cattle would be on grass 8 months of the year. So I'd say its a lot closer to the 5% than the 17% that are in a true feedlot alright.

Did you have to double fence the boundaries

Keep Sluicing · 27-03-2019 11:09AM

wrangler wrote: »

Did you have to double fence the boundaries

Was already done. It was mentioned but never checked.

Bass Reeves · 09-06-2019 01:47PM

I finally got to read some of the rag this morning. Carcass grading and grading machine's is starting to raise its head. The department and the processors are trailing the new machines. You would not believe it but they seem to be using a special equation on the Irish machines compared to the rest of Europe. It seems that this will reduce the grades on dairy bred cattle.

TBF the IFA seem to be on top of it this time. Hard to believe the Department would connive with the processor's to reduce grades. You would wonder at times.

coolshannagh28 · 09-06-2019 02:27PM

Bass Reeves wrote: »

I finally got to read some of the rag this morning. Carcass grading and grading machine's is starting to raise its head. The department and the processors are trailing the new machines. You would not believe it but they seem to be using a special equation on the Irish machines compared to the rest of Europe. It seems that this will reduce the grades on dairy bred cattle.

TBF the IFA seem to be on top of it this time. Hard to believe the Department would connive with the processor's to reduce grades. You would wonder at times.

Make no mistake , the Dept is not on the side of the farmer , between issues like this , the inordinate red tape and checking and the acceptance of the party line on methane and carbon , clawbacks on subsidy etc its obvious that farmers are being engineered out of existence.

alps · 17-06-2019 11:57PM

What percentage of the attendees are asleep?

Bass Reeves · 18-06-2019 08:01AM

alps wrote: »

What percentage of the attendees are asleep?

Is that an IFA meeting about 40% of the floor and 100% of the top table

wrangler · 18-06-2019 09:47AM

alps wrote: »

What percentage of the attendees are asleep?

Often thought that about beef farmers alright

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