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  • #6512
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 32,956 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Viking War Raiders Experience, Erik Rowe and Ivar Hanson


  • #6513
    Insect Overlord
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 31,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭Insect Overlord


    Hmmm. Sounds more like some sorta Machine to me.


  • #6514
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,450 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    J. Marston wrote: »
    Usos have been added to it now so they must've realised it made no sense.

    Remember the Viking Warriors?

    The fact the Revival seemed to be aligned with Shane McMahon could have easily just said Shane is using his power to help his buddies out by given them a title shot after helping him beat down Reigns last week on Raw.


  • #6515
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,381 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    johnnyryan89 wrote: »
    The fact the Revival seemed to be aligned with Shane McMahon could have easily just said Shane is using his power to help his buddies out by given them a title a shot after helping him beat down Reigns last week on Raw.

    That actually does make kayfabe sense, in fairness. Hadn't thought of that.


  • #6516
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,450 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    J. Marston wrote: »
    That actually does make kayfabe sense, in fairness. Hadn't thought of that.

    Tbf it's WWE so 9 times outta 10 things normally don't make sense.


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  • #6517
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    You know, part of me knows that was actually a decently solid episode of Raw. Plenty of stuff happened, with a good mixture of wrestling and stories.

    I just find it so, so hard to care because I don't know if it was an anomaly.

    Truth's stuff is great ("I'm not Hornswoggle, I'm just a very small man", and EC3 actually getting to show his comedy chops was brilliant), and Firefly is still holding my attention. But outside of Truth and Bray, I'm just massively reluctant to invest in anything....


  • #6518
    SlickRic
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,699 ✭✭✭✭SlickRic


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    You know, part of me knows that was actually a decently solid episode of Raw. Plenty of stuff happened, with a good mixture of wrestling and stories.

    I just find it so, so hard to care because I don't know if it was an anomaly.

    Truth's stuff is great ("I'm not Hornswoggle, I'm just a very small man", and EC3 actually getting to show his comedy chops was brilliant), and Firefly is still holding my attention. But outside of Truth and Bray, I'm just massively reluctant to invest in anything....

    they've broken you.

    there's only so many times they can let you down before you just won't allow yourself to care like you used to. we all have a breaking point.


  • #6519
    SureYWouldntYa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,854 ✭✭✭SureYWouldntYa


    They’re a victim of their own crap booking

    Even if things were to turn around creative wise and last night was the start of it, it would take 6 odd months for us to fully trust them, we’d need to see full stories with a good start and end before thinking they could actually do it


  • #6520
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,381 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    Looked on Reddit for any worthwhile highlights. This was all I found...

    https://twitter.com/WWE/status/1138293460270632960

    R-Truth's antics and Billie regularly making people break character are legit the only things I enjoy in WWE right now. The rest is drizzling shíte.


  • #6521
    sky88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    youd have to agree its like the general consensus is everyone loves brays stuff but were all waiting for it to be ruined eventually.


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  • #6522
    hufpc8w3adnk65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Don’t watch that much anymore but that was brilliant with the iconics


  • #6523
    sky88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    iconics are terrible in ring but they are so good in these skits


  • #6524
    seandotcomm
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,028 ✭✭✭seandotcomm


    love Iconics. probably the only wrestlers who can get away with being so rubbish in the ring because of their character skills


  • #6525
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Don’t watch that much anymore but that was brilliant with the iconics

    I know everyone hates their in ring work (for a reason), but when they are given freedom on the microphone, they really are incredible. Its a shame they can't really wrestle, cause otherwise they'd be one of the greatest acts ever.


  • #6526
    Agent Coulson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    Kayla is so cute.


  • #6527
    martyos121
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,547 ✭✭✭✭martyos121


    I only realised how truly awful the show has gotten when the demise of Rambling Rabbit, a puppet, drew more emotion out of me than anything they’ve done in months.

    And yeah, I’m including Kofi’s win in that. That poor rabbit had more character development than 90% of the roster.


  • #6528
    CastorTroy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,243 ✭✭✭✭CastorTroy


    Kayla couldn't stop herself from smiling and think they just like trying to get her to laugh.
    Dunno where the IIconics thing will go. When they talk about scouring the world, that would be a good time to introduce Paige's team by her simply saying they clearly never tried Japan.

    So WWE hacked into the building's elevator camera immediately? I have to ask, what's with EC3 carrying that cup? Montez Ford carries one as well and I just don't get it. What are they meant to be?
    EC3 didn't seem too keen to try and pin Truth either when they got out.

    Guess we won't be seeing Ryder and Hawkins again any time soon.

    So 6 man match for the US title at Stomping Ground?


  • #6529
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,726 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    Why do I get the feeling they are going to do a bar type of thing with Cesaro and Ricochet. They could use Cesaros amazing strength and Ricochets high flying moves. Future tag champs


  • #6530
    Itssoeasy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,264 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    sky88 wrote: »
    iconics are terrible in ring but they are so good in these skits

    Ah billie kay is actually good in the ring though. Her WWE run is a poor reflection on her in ring ability.


  • #6531
    sky88
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,689 ✭✭✭sky88


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Ah billie kay is actually good in the ring though. Her WWE run is a poor reflection on her in ring ability.

    ive heard that before i must check some out as tbh she wasnt as awkward looking in NXT


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  • #6532
    Pentecost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,965 ✭✭✭Pentecost


    sky88 wrote: »
    ive heard that before i must check some out as tbh she wasnt as awkward looking in NXT

    Peyton Royce was definitely better in NXT too, though not as good as the top women they had at the time.


  • #6533
    J. Marston
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,381 ✭✭✭✭J. Marston


    The two are a throwback to the Divas era level of wrestling. Pretty bad, in my opinion. But they have more charisma in their fingernails than 98% of the rest of the women (and probably men) do in their whole bodies. That should count for a lot especially when there are women to cover the workrate stuff these days.


  • #6534
    Blue_Dabadee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,556 ✭✭✭Blue_Dabadee


    In fairness having personality is more important than wrestling ability on main roster. It is reason why the likes of Ember Moon have gone nowhere on main roster while Lacey Evans, Alexa Bliss and The IIconics have done well for themselves than they did on NXT.


  • #6535
    JP Liz V1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,690 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Daniel Bryan back on Raw facing Seth Rollins

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • #6536
    PTH2009
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,726 ✭✭✭✭PTH2009


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Daniel Bryan back on Raw facing Seth Rollins

    Awesome but I hate this bloody wild card rule. So confusing and really a gamble now if ur attending an event cause of it. The sooner the fox takeover for SD happens as they will try and have a structured roster between both shows


  • #6537
    johnnyryan89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,450 ✭✭✭johnnyryan89


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Awesome but I hate this bloody wild card rule. So confusing and really a gamble now if ur attending an event cause of it. The sooner the fox takeover for SD happens as they will try and have a structured roster between both shows

    Highly doubtful. USA have given them more money for just Raw so I'm sure they'll want the big names on their show and Fox will also want the big names on their show.


  • #6538
    hufpc8w3adnk65
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,158 ✭✭✭✭hufpc8w3adnk65


    Ringside news called last nights Raw the best in a long time. Any other opinions?


  • #6539
    lawlolawl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,678 ✭✭✭lawlolawl


    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Awesome but I hate this bloody wild card rule. So confusing and really a gamble now if ur attending an event cause of it. The sooner the fox takeover for SD happens as they will try and have a structured roster between both shows

    The roster split doesn't exist anymore. People just show up where ever.

    The Wildcard rule was another classic example of WWE coming up with an idea and discarding it almost instantly. They constantly do this.


  • #6540
    Lord TSC
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,956 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    MrMac84 wrote: »
    Ringside news called last nights Raw the best in a long time. Any other opinions?

    It, surprisingly, was pretty good.

    There were show long stories that made sense, a LOT of characters got meaningful screen time (EC3, Eric Young, Gallows & Anderson, Slater all got stuff to do), stories progressed.

    It was actually well written. Yeah, there's still issues (mainly, the wild card rule meaning we're getting re-runs of the same segments twice a week).

    But Rollins got a show long story with a beginning/middle/end. Bliss/Nikki are getting a story with, shock horror, character development. The fatal five way match was strong, Bryan/Rollins was what you'd expect.

    Wasn't a show that you'd dedicate three hours too, but took longer than 10 minutes to blitz.

    I wouldn't be shocked at all if reports start floating that Vince wasn't that involved and someone else was in charge of the show. It felt like a 3 hour show, rather than a dozen 15 minute ones.


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  • #6541
    Cotts72
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,565 ✭✭✭Cotts72


    I hoped the Gallows+Anderson segment was going to lead to them getting a push but ultimately resulted in defeat unless they are slow building them again. At this stage surely aligning them with Balor as a heel faction with a mouthpiece could work


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