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Dublin Hoteliers

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  • #32
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    yaboya1 wrote: »
    Hotels in Dublin/Ireland have to charge rates like that to cover their huge insurance premiums caused by people falling over due to their own carelessness and then suing them for thousands.


    I love how people swallow the insurance industry propaganda wholesale. It's still a wildly profitable sector despite the spoofers falling over.

    Similarly, while insurance costs probably do get passed along to your room-rate, the magic of 'dynamic pricing' and good old fashioned profiteering probably has a whole lot more to do with it.


  • #33
    yaboya1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,610 ✭✭✭yaboya1


    Yurt! wrote: »
    I love how people swallow the insurance industry propaganda wholesale. It's still a wildly profitable sector despite the spoofers falling over.

    Similarly, while insurance costs probably do get passed along to your room-rate, the magic of 'dynamic pricing' and profiteering probably has a whole lot more to do with it.

    Ah I know.
    I was only half serious ;)


  • #34
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Yurt! wrote:
    I love how people swallow the insurance industry propoganda wholesale. It's still a wildly profitable sector despite the spoofers falling over.


    Ah shur the insurance industry is based on pure wealth extraction, it won't change


  • #35
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,584 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    jay1988 wrote: »
    Same as the tourist areas in any major city really.


    In price yes. But other cities have a lot more draw to tourists famous buildings etc sites.


  • #36
    Yurt2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,381 ✭✭✭Yurt2


    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Ah shur the insurance industry is based on pure wealth extraction, it won't change


    For car insurance, I'm in favour of the New Zealand model (also adopted in a couple of Canadian provinces) - car insurance is not legally mandated and is up to the consumer. For injuries incurred while driving, there is an accident payout pool ran by the state, and treatment/rehabilitation costs are covered by this. There is a levy collected as part of motor tax, and generally, everything is kept out of court.


    For the vehicle itself, up to the consumer; the state doesn't care if I drop and smash my iPhone, why does it mandate that I insure my vehicle? Why do we care if Nigel dinged his Lexus pulling out of his drive?


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  • #37
    corkboy38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭corkboy38


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    mixing a city break with a gig is a great way to do it in my experience, fly in Friday afternoon, early dinner and pints and then off to the gig followed by a few bars. next morning lazy breakfast, gentle sightseeing etc

    It's not always possible but anytime I'm going abroad for a gig or match I try to fly in the day before. The atmosphere around the city in the build up enhances the experience. The downside being flying home the day after the gig a bit worse for wear.


  • #38
    corkboy38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭corkboy38


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    mixing a city break with a gig is a great way to do it in my experience, fly in friday afternoon, early dinner and pints and then off to the gig followed by a few bars. next morning lazy breakfast, gentle sightseeing etc
    Mr.S wrote: »
    To be fair, its last minute, with multiple large concerts on across the city this week.

    One big event in Dublin drives the price up across the board because of low stock. Once these new hotels all start to open over the coming years, it should make things a little more competitive.

    The only gig on during the time I'm trying to book is mumford and sons which i'd be certain isn't drawing a massive crowd. Upping the price in the days leading up to a gig is utter ****housery.


  • #39
    Deebles McBeebles
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,969 ✭✭✭Deebles McBeebles


    suicide_circus wrote: »
    mixing a city break with a gig is a great way to do it in my experience, fly in friday afternoon, early dinner and pints and then off to the gig followed by a few bars. next morning lazy breakfast, gentle sightseeing etc

    My favourite thing to do. Last time I was in Italy I caught a football match and 2 gigs in a weekend, Manchester the same.

    Dublin hotel prices have gone up noticeably but at such short notice it would likely be the same in any major city.


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
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    MarkY91 wrote: »
    AirBnB.

    Just as dear!


  • #41
    Franz Von Peppercorn II
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    ILoveYourVibes wrote: »
    In price yes. But other cities have a lot more draw to tourists famous buildings etc sites.

    Dublin is fine for a few days. Which is what a city break is about. In fact you can visit numerous times and have stuff to do. Same with many cities that aren’t global centres.


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  • #42
    airmax87
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    be class if they stopped knocking down our nightclubs for hotels wouldn't it


  • #43
    Obvious Desperate Breakfasts
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    Balanadan wrote: »
    It's cheaper to fly abroad for a weekend away to see a gig/concert/show than to spend one night in Dublin to see the same. I don't understand why anyone would go to an event in Dublin. You can get a 5 star hotel in Central London for the price of a 3 star in Dublin.

    Cheaper to spend a whole weekend away than one night in Dublin? Nah. Especially not in a 5 star hotel. This reminds me of people claiming that their wedding abroad will be cheaper for guests than one in Ireland. It’s never the case.


  • #44
    Dublin Spur
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    some of the figures quoted are obscene.

    But surely hotel prices are based on what enough people are prepared to pay, otherwise the hotels would have to drop their prices. Classic supply and demand story, Hotels are not charities in fairness.


  • #45
    c.p.w.g.w
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    Deebles McBeebles wrote: »
    My favourite thing to do. Last time I was in Italy I caught a football match and 2 gigs in a weekend, Manchester the same.

    Dublin hotel prices have gone up noticeably but at such short notice it would likely be the same in any major city.

    How was the football in Italy, was it safe. Hear lots of negative stories. Hoping to go Italy next year and would love to catch a game


  • #46
    Fitz*
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    corkboy38 wrote: »
    The only gig on during the time I'm trying to book is mumford and sons which i'd be certain isn't drawing a massive crowd. Upping the price in the days leading up to a gig is utter ****housery.

    Fleetwood Mac are on Thursday night.

    Very much playing for the demographic of people who will pay money to stay in hotels.


  • #47
    Deebles McBeebles
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    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    How was the football in Italy, was it safe. Hear lots of negative stories. Hoping to go Italy next year and would love to catch a game

    Was great, no safety issues. The police in riot gear freaked the OH out a bit but better to have them there than not.

    Was in with the Ultras and they were all dead on, passing food around and all. Would be a bit more wary if its Rome you are going to though.


  • #48
    Captain Havoc
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    It's called yield management and I've no problem with people charging extortionist prices, I just won't be paying them.

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  • #49
    KikiLaRue
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    corkboy38 wrote: »
    Almost 350 quid for the cheapest hotel for two nights at the end of this week, many hotels 500+. Are these lads for real?

    The boom is back baby

    It’s summer and you’re booking last minute for the weekend... were you expecting a bargain?


  • #50
    DelBoy Trotter
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    corkboy38 wrote: »
    The only gig on during the time I'm trying to book is mumford and sons which i'd be certain isn't drawing a massive crowd. Upping the price in the days leading up to a gig is utter ****housery.

    Thursday: Fleetwood Mac in the RDS and Elton John in the 3 Arena
    Friday: Mumford and Sons in Malahide Castle
    Saturday: Mumford and Sons in Malahide Castle
    Sunday: Bon Jovi in the RDS

    And they are only the big gigs. There are also gigs on in the Olympia, Vicar Street and a couple of other small venues. It's absolutely no surprise that it's an expensive weekend to stay in a hotel in Dublin. Dublin doesn't have enough hotel rooms, and when the demand goes up, so does the price


  • #51
    Zaph
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    DelBoy Trotter wrote: »
    Thursday: Fleetwood Mac in the RDS and Elton John in the 3 Arena
    Friday: Mumford and Sons in Malahide Castle
    Saturday: Mumford and Sons in Malahide Castle
    Sunday: Bon Jovi in the RDS

    Bon Jovi are also playing the RDS on Saturday


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  • #52
    whisky_galore
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    airmax87 wrote: »
    be class if they stopped knocking down our nightclubs for hotels wouldn't it

    Nightclubs are fücked here because of the law as it stands.


  • #53
    Wanderer78
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    whisky_galore wrote:
    Nightclubs are fücked here because of the law.


    Nightclubs are fcuking horrendous things anyway


  • #54
    Big Nasty
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    I'm a firm believer that any hotel registered with Failte Ireland should have to declare peak / mid / low season rates at the beginning of the year, display them on their door and lose their rating if caught charging above said rates.


  • #55
    whiskeyman
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    Zaph wrote: »
    Kelly's is the most depressing hotel I've ever stayed in. My in-laws very generously paid for the whole family to go away, but as there were small children to be entertained we ended up there. However if like my wife and I you're outside the demographics of having small kids or are waiting to pop your clogs, it's grim. The place is stuck in a 1950s time warp, their business model is based on people booking for next year as they're checking out (they even have specially printed cards for that), and you can't just go for a night, it's a minimum two night stay package only. I'm genuinely baffled as to how they're still open, but business was booming so they must be doing something right.

    When you have kids, you'd pay anything to go there, I promise!!
    Amazing facilities for them, you're handed food all day and they mind your kids.
    Everyone is happy, and you don't get anything like it anywhere else!
    Theres a reason its expensive and always booked up for months.
    You really got what you pay for there.

    I agree though... If you've no kids, go to a fancy spa resort with no brats running about!!!


  • #56
    Bigbagofcans
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    Wanderer78 wrote: »
    Nightclubs are fcuking horrendous things anyway

    They're all different. Coppers and the likes = sh1te. A few nightclubs with great DJs have been closed in recent times in Dublin.


  • #57
    Wanderer78
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,728 ✭✭✭✭Wanderer78


    Bigbagofcans wrote:
    They're all different. Coppers and the likes = sh1te. A few nightclubs with great DJs have closed recently in Dublin.


    All ****e in my eyes, just not for me


  • #58
    Fan of Netflix
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    Damn I've to book somewhere for Friday, sounds like it will be grim then


  • #59
    Fan of Netflix
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    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Nightclubs are fücked here because of the law as it stands.
    Nightclub scene in Dublin is collapsing atm really poor stuff very little left outside the few on Harcourt Street. Which are ****e really.


  • #60
    corkboy38
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 177 ✭✭corkboy38


    Fan of Netflix wrote: »
    Damn I've to book somewhere for Friday, sounds like it will be grim then

    I ended up paying over 400 quid for two nights. Stay in your car.
    Fan of Netflix wrote: »
    Nightclub scene in Dublin is collapsing atm really poor stuff very little left outside the few on Harcourt Street. Which are ****e really.

    I was up in Dublin about 2 months ago on a Friday evening, about 5:30/6 I tried to walk into Diceys for a drink as I was near Harcourt street, the bouncer was having absolutely none of it because I didn't have ID on me... I'm 28 and had just come from a meeting so still in a shirt and tie.

    People go on about Cork bouncers and how they're nazis but Dublin is swiftly catching up.


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  • #61
    Fan of Netflix
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    corkboy38 wrote: »
    I ended up paying over 400 quid for two nights. Stay in your car.



    I was up in Dublin about 2 months ago on a Friday evening, about 5:30/6 I tried to walk into Diceys for a drink as I was near Harcourt street, the bouncer was having absolutely none of it because I didn't have ID on me... I'm 28 and had just come from a meeting so still in a shirt and tie. People go on about Cork bouncers and how they're nazis but Dublin is swiftly catching up.
    Bouncers round there are arseholes. I'm the same age and it's luck of the draw whether you get in them places sometimes. I'd say they can be more picky as they are doing great business.

    Noticed that in a few pubs in Dublin. I was refused service for being "too drunk" and other ****e like dress code in a few well known city centre pubs a few months back. I wasn't too bad really. Wouldn't happen down the country as they're begging for business.


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