Dublin Hoteliers

corkboy38

Almost 350 quid for the cheapest hotel for two nights at the end of this week, many hotels 500+. Are these lads for real?

The boom is back baby

This is it

Tough to get a hotel for less than €100 a night in the city centre, it's been like that for years. Expect to pay more at the weekend. Stay somewhere just outside D1/D2 and you might do better, grab a taxi, LUAS or bus to get around.

MarkY91

AirBnB.

Force Carrier

Are the Bed and Breakfastiers and AirBnBiers gouging as well?

JupiterKid

I honestly don’t know why tourists flock to Dublin any more - because given the size of the city and what it offers tourists, it is clear that hoteliers, bar owners (Temple Bar in particular) trinket shops and attractions fleece them for every cent they can get with shameless impunity.

jay1988

JupiterKid wrote: »

I honestly don’t know why tourists flock to Dublin any more - because given the size of the city and what it offers tourists, it is clear that hoteliers, bar owners (Temple Bar in particular) trinket shops and attractions fleece them for every cent they can get with shameless impunity.

Same as the tourist areas in any major city really.

corkboy38

This is it wrote: »

Tough to get a hotel for less than €100 a night in the city centre, it's been like that for years. Expect to pay more at the weekend. Stay somewhere just outside D1/D2 and you might do better, grab a taxi, LUAS or bus to get around.

Everything which is not a hostel and is within a 10k radius of city centre is 350+ Thursday and Friday night.

Out of curiosity I checked and I can fly to the UK and have flights and accom is Liverpool/London/Newcastle/Manchester for less than 200 on the same days.

corkboy38

Holiday inn express - 739 euro for two nights
Crown Plaza Santry 598 euro

Utter greed.

Omackeral

corkboy38 wrote: »

Almost 350 quid for the cheapest hotel for two nights at the end of this week, many hotels 500+. Are these lads for real?

The boom is back baby

That's what you get for your wanker bouncers not letting us into Havana Brown's

corkboy38

MarkY91 wrote: »

AirBnB.

I've never used AirBnB to be honest, something about staying in some strangers gaff that makes me uncomfortable.

corkboy38

Omackeral wrote: »

That's what you get for your wanker bouncers not letting us into Havana Brown's

A fine set of lads.

jcorr

I think Irish people are greedy. Our society is obsessed with money.

This is it

corkboy38 wrote: »

Everything which is not a hostel and is within a 10k radius of city centre is 350+ Thursday and Friday night.

Out of curiosity I checked and I can fly to the UK and have flights and accom is Liverpool/London/Newcastle/Manchester for less than 200 on the same days.

Might be something on the weekend ramping up the prices

Collie D

Few gigs on this weekend always bumps up the price. Plus Cork people tax.

Balanadan

MarkY91 wrote: »

AirBnB.

LOL

Zaph

If you insist on going to see Bon Jovi then you have to be prepared for the punishment!

To be fair though, 600 quid for two nights in Santry is extracting massive volumes of urine.

padd b1975

corkboy38 wrote: »

Holiday inn express - 739 euro for two nights
Crown Plaza Santry 598 euro

Utter greed.

Ridiculous.

If you'd asked for a rough guess for the nightly rate for The Merrion, I'd have been in and around those figures.

This is it

Zaph wrote: »

If you insist on going to see Bon Jovi then you have to be prepared for the punishment!

To be fair though, 600 quid for two nights in Santry is extracting massive volumes of urine.

I had a quick look out of interest, €400 for Park West

Balanadan

padd b1975 wrote: »

Ridiculous.

If you'd asked for a rough guess for the nightly rate for The Merrion, I'd have been in and around those figures.

It's cheaper to fly abroad for a weekend away to see a gig/concert/show than to spend one night in Dublin to see the same. I don't understand why anyone would go to an event in Dublin. You can get a 5 star hotel in Central London for the price of a 3 star in Dublin.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

jcorr wrote: »

I think Irish people are greedy. Our society is obsessed with money.

Can we really compare people to hotels. Dublin needs more rooms. 5000 on the way (40-50 hotels).

Then there will be a bust and they will demand vat reductions once again.

Franz Von Peppercorn II

padd b1975 wrote: »

Ridiculous.

If you'd asked for a rough guess for the nightly rate for The Merrion, I'd have been in and around those figures.

Both are two nights. Still ridiculous though.

Phil.x

Its not just Dublin, try galway, i priced for next month for 3 nights midweek....€1200+

Kellys in rosslare 3 nights midweek €1450

This is for 2+2.

whisky_galore

jay1988 wrote: »

Same as the tourist areas in any major city really.

Heaps of major cities where you get far better bang for your buck. Hoteliers have been trying it on for years but Dublin is gouge central more than ever now.

thegills

Its a spin-off from the homeless issue. Availability in hotels is limited so supply and demand issue.

sabat

Blame it on the internet and the mass of information people voluntarily hand over to companies. The hotels themselves wouldn't have even dreamed of the type of rates they can get but now they all use analytic services that know precisely what the demand will be on any given date and how much they will be able to extract from the customer.

Nigel Fairservice

Dublin hotel prices are unbelievable. I paid €180 for a night in the Clayton in Leopardstown the night of the Coldplay concert at Croke Park. Return bus from Cork to Dublin cost about €30. I went to a gig in London (Wembley Arena) and stayed right next to the venue for 2 nights for €150. I paid €40 for the flights. Both hotels were of a similar standard. The combined cost of the hotel and transport for one night in Dublin was €210. The combined cost of hotel and transport for 2 nights in London was €190.

The cost of hotels in Cork isn't much better than Dublin these days.

kneemos

Phil.x wrote: »

Its not just Dublin, try galway, i priced for next month for 3 nights midweek....€1200+

Kellys in rosslare 3 nights midweek €1450

This is for 2+2.

Kelly's must be on crack. Nothing in Rosslare,not even a decent beach.

Zaph

kneemos wrote: »

Kelly's must be on crack. Nothing in Rosslare,not even a decent beach.

Kelly's is the most depressing hotel I've ever stayed in. My in-laws very generously paid for the whole family to go away, but as there were small children to be entertained we ended up there. However if like my wife and I you're outside the demographics of having small kids or are waiting to pop your clogs, it's grim. The place is stuck in a 1950s time warp, their business model is based on people booking for next year as they're checking out (they even have specially printed cards for that), and you can't just go for a night, it's a minimum two night stay package only. I'm genuinely baffled as to how they're still open, but business was booming so they must be doing something right.

Yurt2

The head of a hotel industry lobby group came out of the woodwork a while back saying Dublin hoteliers should be striving to charge the same as hotels in London and Paris, madness. London and Paris are global centres of culture, politics and industry. Dublin is Dublin.

Like the 'property industry' when the next downturn takes hold, the hotel industry will be hit with a tonne of bricks over the noggin.

suicide_circus

mixing a city break with a gig is a great way to do it in my experience, fly in friday afternoon, early dinner and pints and then off to the gig followed by a few bars. next morning lazy breakfast, gentle sightseeing etc

Yurt2

suicide_circus wrote: »

mixing a city break with a gig is a great way to do it in my experience, fly in friday afternoon, early dinner and pints and then off to the gig followed by a few bars. next morning lazy breakfast, gentle sightseeing etc

Tickets are generally much cheaper also. Germany has become my destination of choice when I see a good artist is doing a European tour. Hotels, pints, food all better value than Dublin.

suicide_circus

Yurt! wrote: »

Tickets are generally much cheaper also. Germany has become my destination of choice when I see a good artist is doing a European tour. Hotels, pints, food all better value than Dublin.

if you plan well ahead, even including the flights and hotel, the gig tickets, food and drink are so much cheaper that its well worth it. i love Dublin as my city but i dont see what it offers tourists and the value for money is atrocious.

Balanadan

Yurt! wrote: »

Tickets are generally much cheaper also. Germany has become my destination of choice when I see a good artist is doing a European tour. Hotels, pints, food all better value than Dublin.

Germany is fantastic. They still know how to hike up the hotel prices too but it's great for a change of scene.

yaboya1

Hotels in Dublin/Ireland have to charge rates like that to cover their huge insurance premiums caused by people falling over due to their own carelessness and then suing them for thousands.

Yurt2

yaboya1 wrote: »

Hotels in Dublin/Ireland have to charge rates like that to cover their huge insurance premiums caused by people falling over due to their own carelessness and then suing them for thousands.

I love how people swallow the insurance industry propaganda wholesale. It's still a wildly profitable sector despite the spoofers falling over.

Similarly, while insurance costs probably do get passed along to your room-rate, the magic of 'dynamic pricing' and good old fashioned profiteering probably has a whole lot more to do with it.

yaboya1

Yurt! wrote: »

I love how people swallow the insurance industry propaganda wholesale. It's still a wildly profitable sector despite the spoofers falling over.

Similarly, while insurance costs probably do get passed along to your room-rate, the magic of 'dynamic pricing' and profiteering probably has a whole lot more to do with it.

Ah I know.
I was only half serious

Wanderer78

Yurt! wrote:

I love how people swallow the insurance industry propoganda wholesale. It's still a wildly profitable sector despite the spoofers falling over.

Ah shur the insurance industry is based on pure wealth extraction, it won't change

ILoveYourVibes

jay1988 wrote: »

Same as the tourist areas in any major city really.

In price yes. But other cities have a lot more draw to tourists famous buildings etc sites.

Yurt2

Wanderer78 wrote: »

Ah shur the insurance industry is based on pure wealth extraction, it won't change

For car insurance, I'm in favour of the New Zealand model (also adopted in a couple of Canadian provinces) - car insurance is not legally mandated and is up to the consumer. For injuries incurred while driving, there is an accident payout pool ran by the state, and treatment/rehabilitation costs are covered by this. There is a levy collected as part of motor tax, and generally, everything is kept out of court.


For the vehicle itself, up to the consumer; the state doesn't care if I drop and smash my iPhone, why does it mandate that I insure my vehicle? Why do we care if Nigel dinged his Lexus pulling out of his drive?

corkboy38

suicide_circus wrote: »

mixing a city break with a gig is a great way to do it in my experience, fly in Friday afternoon, early dinner and pints and then off to the gig followed by a few bars. next morning lazy breakfast, gentle sightseeing etc

It's not always possible but anytime I'm going abroad for a gig or match I try to fly in the day before. The atmosphere around the city in the build up enhances the experience. The downside being flying home the day after the gig a bit worse for wear.

corkboy38

suicide_circus wrote: »

mixing a city break with a gig is a great way to do it in my experience, fly in friday afternoon, early dinner and pints and then off to the gig followed by a few bars. next morning lazy breakfast, gentle sightseeing etc

Mr.S wrote: »

To be fair, its last minute, with multiple large concerts on across the city this week.

One big event in Dublin drives the price up across the board because of low stock. Once these new hotels all start to open over the coming years, it should make things a little more competitive.

The only gig on during the time I'm trying to book is mumford and sons which i'd be certain isn't drawing a massive crowd. Upping the price in the days leading up to a gig is utter ****housery.

Deebles McBeebles

suicide_circus wrote: »

mixing a city break with a gig is a great way to do it in my experience, fly in friday afternoon, early dinner and pints and then off to the gig followed by a few bars. next morning lazy breakfast, gentle sightseeing etc

My favourite thing to do. Last time I was in Italy I caught a football match and 2 gigs in a weekend, Manchester the same.

Dublin hotel prices have gone up noticeably but at such short notice it would likely be the same in any major city.

MarkY91

MarkY91 wrote: »

AirBnB.

Just as dear!

Franz Von Peppercorn II

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

In price yes. But other cities have a lot more draw to tourists famous buildings etc sites.

Dublin is fine for a few days. Which is what a city break is about. In fact you can visit numerous times and have stuff to do. Same with many cities that aren’t global centres.

airmax87

be class if they stopped knocking down our nightclubs for hotels wouldn't it

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Balanadan wrote: »

It's cheaper to fly abroad for a weekend away to see a gig/concert/show than to spend one night in Dublin to see the same. I don't understand why anyone would go to an event in Dublin. You can get a 5 star hotel in Central London for the price of a 3 star in Dublin.

Cheaper to spend a whole weekend away than one night in Dublin? Nah. Especially not in a 5 star hotel. This reminds me of people claiming that their wedding abroad will be cheaper for guests than one in Ireland. It’s never the case.

Dublin Spur

some of the figures quoted are obscene.

But surely hotel prices are based on what enough people are prepared to pay, otherwise the hotels would have to drop their prices. Classic supply and demand story, Hotels are not charities in fairness.

c.p.w.g.w

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

My favourite thing to do. Last time I was in Italy I caught a football match and 2 gigs in a weekend, Manchester the same.

Dublin hotel prices have gone up noticeably but at such short notice it would likely be the same in any major city.

How was the football in Italy, was it safe. Hear lots of negative stories. Hoping to go Italy next year and would love to catch a game

Fitz*

corkboy38 wrote: »

The only gig on during the time I'm trying to book is mumford and sons which i'd be certain isn't drawing a massive crowd. Upping the price in the days leading up to a gig is utter ****housery.

Fleetwood Mac are on Thursday night.

Very much playing for the demographic of people who will pay money to stay in hotels.

Deebles McBeebles

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

How was the football in Italy, was it safe. Hear lots of negative stories. Hoping to go Italy next year and would love to catch a game

Was great, no safety issues. The police in riot gear freaked the OH out a bit but better to have them there than not.

Was in with the Ultras and they were all dead on, passing food around and all. Would be a bit more wary if its Rome you are going to though.

Captain Havoc

It's called yield management and I've no problem with people charging extortionist prices, I just won't be paying them.