England fans riot in Portugual, sing "F the Pope and the IRA"

timthumbni · 07-06-2019 02:02PM

The **** the Ira part no problem at all. Most decent folk would agree with that statement.

Re the trouble Pity that a small number of morons try to spoil things for everyone else. Beer and hot sun are a dangerous mix for some.

bobbysands81 · 07-06-2019 02:06PM

bob mcbob wrote: »

I am a Catholic who grew up in a small working class town in central Scotland (near Falkirk). I can't remember a single example of sectarian abuse I received growing up there. On the other hand I do remember the level of contempt given to the Orange walks given by most of the people in the town when they came there.

Bigots should always be opposed. Delighted to hear that the OO were held in contempt by locals.

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-06-2019 02:27PM

Fan of Netflix wrote: »

I believe he is also with a group of bodyguards there for protection so yeah pretty cowardly. Unless something happened beforehand not in video, seems a very strange incident unless he knew him. Must have said something.

https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/status/1136955012284866562

Probably still angry that he was laughed out of the elections with a measly 2%. Sooner that low life is in jail the better.

super_furry · 07-06-2019 02:35PM

Yaxley-Lennon has always been nothing but a scummy football hooligan. He just conned a loan of guilable people along the way.

Blinky Plebum · 07-06-2019 03:07PM

timthumbni wrote: »

The **** the Ira part no problem at all. Most decent folk would agree with that statement.

Re the trouble Pity that a small number of morons try to spoil things for everyone else. Beer and hot sun are a dangerous mix for some.

Yeah the crowd chanting that were really doing it due to their opposition to the IRA and there hope for a peaceful world where we can all get along.

You know damn well that the chant has got nothing to do with the reality of being against the IRA, if they were so opposed to violence why aren't the chanting **** ISIS seeing as the IRA aren't around anymore.

nacho libre · 07-06-2019 04:14PM

FTA69 wrote: »

Yeah he's a scrapper to be fair, he's handy and he can bang.

It's easier to knock someone to to the ground when you sucker punch them. And anyone who boasts about knocking others out is usually full of hot air. I know guys who can handle themselves, they never brag about what they can do. It's easy for Tommy to play the big man when he has a posse around him.

Bateman · 07-06-2019 05:00PM

Of course if Robinson was a proper geezer he'd have been in Marseilles when the Russians were handballing the Brits all over the harbour

England's support today is random pissheads, part-timers, and lads who don't get out enough at home. It's nothing like the 80s

timthumbni · 07-06-2019 06:34PM

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

seeing as the IRA aren't around anymore.

Well they tried to murder a policeman this past weekend, and they succeeded in murdering that girl Lyra McKee a short while back. So they kinda are around. The Ira, the new Ira, the the whatever the **** they call themselves nowadays IRa. A pig is still pig even when you add lipstick.

A blanket term like **** the Ira is not really the problem here. Singing stupid things is hardly uncommon when it comes to footie fans.

Louts getting full in the sun and behaving like idiots is the issue. No idea what answer is. Water cannon would calm the jets a bit surely.

Timberrrrrrrr · 07-06-2019 07:43PM

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

Yeah the crowd chanting that were really doing it due to their opposition to the IRA and there hope for a peaceful world where we can all get along.

You know damn well that the chant has got nothing to do with the reality of being against the IRA, if they were so opposed to violence why aren't the chanting **** ISIS seeing as the IRA aren't around anymore.

Why do irish fans sing ooh aah up the ra?

Berserker · 07-06-2019 09:42PM

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

You know damn well that the chant has got nothing to do with the reality of being against the IRA, if they were so opposed to violence why aren't the chanting **** ISIS seeing as the IRA aren't around anymore.

You need a news update if you think the IRA aren't around anymore.

silverharp · 07-06-2019 09:49PM

the 10 german bombers one is funny , a bit of history to boot

blinding · 07-06-2019 09:51PM

silverharp wrote: »

the 10 german bombers one is funny , a bit of history to boot

Very educational !

cj maxx · 07-06-2019 10:08PM

Nothing new in English fans doing that sh1t. Had a nervy encounter back in 96 or so.
I was working in an Irish pub in England.
The town has huge Irish connections. Didn’t stop them storming the pub to do that si1t of chanting songs etc when the local team won promotion . Scary as sh1t

NIMAN · 07-06-2019 10:16PM

I think some here are misunderstanding the 'f the ira' song.

Of course many will agree with its words, but the English fans aren't singing it in that meaning. It's more an anti Irish thing, thinking most catholics or nationalists in Ireland supported the ira.

It's a xenophobic, pro British army, anti anything Irish song. A la Glasgow Rangers. A la Linfield. A la BNP.

If you were among them, or meet them at a tournament, the fact that you're weren't an ira supporter wouldn't stop you taking a beating I'm afraid.

Franz Von Peppercorn II · 07-06-2019 10:30PM

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

South West England. That’s as specific as I can be!

Really nobody is going to identify you from your story unless it’s the actually bigoted English people in that pub. Painfully middle class gives me a hint though.

Blinky Plebum · 07-06-2019 11:03PM

Berserker wrote: »

You need a news update if you think the IRA aren't around anymore.

It isn't around in any serious manner like it was in the past,

I could go out and shoot somebody tomorrow and claim it was on behalf of the IRA and nobody could prove me wrong, it's just there as a way for some people who want to be criminals pretend their actually a cause behind what they are doing.

timthumbni · 07-06-2019 11:13PM

NIMAN wrote: »

I think some here are misunderstanding the 'f the ira' song.

Of course many will agree with its words, but the English fans aren't singing it in that meaning. It's more an anti Irish thing, thinking most catholics or nationalists in Ireland supported the ira.

It's a xenophobic, pro British army, anti anything Irish song. A la Glasgow Rangers. A la Linfield. A la BNP.

If you were among them, or meet them at a tournament, the fact that you're weren't an ira supporter wouldn't stop you taking a beating I'm afraid.

Are you Sigmund Freud in disguise? It might amaze you but a lot of British and English people do hate the IRA. And why wouldn’t they?

As I said that chant was not as issue, just like singing **** the Isis would be.

Unless you support the Ira then what would the issue be here?

NIMAN · 07-06-2019 11:16PM

I have no issue with the ira song, none at all.

Nor the Pope one, not a fan of either of them.

But I would have no doubt those singing those songs wouldn't be a fan of me and my irishness

Blinky Plebum · 07-06-2019 11:16PM

timthumbni wrote: »

Are you Sigmund Freud in disguise? It might amaze you but a lot of British and English people do hate the IRA. And why wouldn’t they?

As I said that chant was not as issue, just like singing **** the Isis would be.

Unless you support the Ira then what would the issue be here?

Those idiots are not singing it for that reason though.

That's is the point people have been making but you're just too thick to understand it.

timthumbni · 07-06-2019 11:17PM

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

It isn't around in any serious manner like it was in the past,

I could go out and shoot somebody tomorrow and claim it was on behalf of the IRA and nobody could prove me wrong, it's just there as a way for some people who want to be criminals pretend their actually a cause behind what they are doing.

Aside from the fact that those in the ridiculously titled new Ira’s leadership are made up mostly of Ira men. Come on now.

A pig is always a pig. You can put a bow on it or a saddle but it’s still a pig.

NIMAN · 07-06-2019 11:17PM

Why sing those songs at all when you are at a game v Holland in Portugal?

Other than to express your hate of all things Irish.

_blaaz · 07-06-2019 11:19PM

timthumbni wrote: »

A pig is always a pig. You can put a bow on it or a saddle but it’s still a pig.

Wha???

timthumbni · 07-06-2019 11:23PM

NIMAN wrote: »

Why sing those songs at all when you are at a game v Holland in Portugal?

Other than to express your hate of all things Irish.

You equate all things Irish with the Ira? Weird?

_blaaz · 07-06-2019 11:23PM

timthumbni wrote: »

You equate all things Irish with the Ira? Weird?

He didnt say this?

Or anything approaching this?

timthumbni · 07-06-2019 11:24PM

_blaaz wrote: »

Wha???

The new Ira, the real ira, the i can’t believe it’s not the Ira brand... it’s all the same dicks.

Hoboo · 07-06-2019 11:26PM

timthumbni wrote: »

You equate all things Irish with the Ira? Weird?

"You can stick your ****ing tayto up your arse"

"Kerrygold butter is nothing but scutter".

Wasn't just IRA songs.

NIMAN · 07-06-2019 11:27PM

timthumbni wrote: »

You equate all things Irish with the Ira? Weird?

You can mess around all you want with words, but you know fine well that they are singing about the Pope and the ra to get at the Irish.

They aren't trying to get at Irish republicans and every Catholic in the world.

OldMrBrennan83 · 07-06-2019 11:28PM

NIMAN wrote: »

You can mess around all you want with words, but you know fine well that they are singing about the Pope and the ra to get at the Irish.

They aren't trying to get at Irish republicans and every Catholic in the world.

He's a right lad at playing the naive fella when it suits him.

Fan of Netflix · 07-06-2019 11:28PM

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

Those idiots are not singing it for that reason though.

That's is the point people have been making but you're just too thick to understand it.

He's not thick, he's a loyalist, has an agenda. He's looking for a reaction.

timthumbni · 07-06-2019 11:31PM

Blinky Plebum wrote: »

Those idiots are not singing it for that reason though.

That's is the point people have been making but you're just too thick to understand it.

Another Freud.... don’t appreciate the personal insults either pal.

England fans riot in Portugual, sing "F the Pope and the IRA"

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