2 frenchmen get 25 years for rape and barbarity.

Del.Monte · 03-06-2019 08:51PM

_blaaz wrote: »

Meh ignore reality all you want mate and rant and rave...no skin off my nose

Well post a link to somebody getting 20 years for stealing a toaster and I'll believe you.

JustAThought · 05-06-2019 11:32AM

I read today that a review has (finally) been set up to review whiplash etc case awards - a raft of other legal things amongst them how different judges apply their 'logic' to come up with widely didfering sentencing. I thought there were precedents and guideline sentencing in ranges.

Is it all just up to whom you get on the day - surely not? And if not why so many suspended sentences or non custodial sentences for rape? And why no judicial outrage & sentencing on the barbarity and savage acts of violence of these monsters?

Gimme A Pound · 05-06-2019 01:23PM

ChikiChiki wrote: »

This. We moan like **** but do nothing. We are frustratingly apathetic as a nation.

What you doing yourself about it?

Allinall wrote: »

Today it’s great.

A few days ago it was kangaroo courts and a rubbish system.

People are shallow.

Were they the same people on each occasion?

Glad to read the ****ers got what they deserved anyway. And it's a perfectly fair point that sentencing for violent crimes here seem to be ludicrously light in the context of what they're for. It's in pretty poor taste imo to be more concerned with making sneery comments about the thread topic moreso than being concerned with what happened to that woman.

El_Bee · 05-06-2019 01:29PM

They should have told the judge they were:

from a disadvantaged background
had a difficult home life
battling substance abuse issues
had a "rough time of it"
were promising footballers at one point
deeply regret the moment of madness
trying to get back on track

These all work a charm on Irish Judges, may as well have a punt in other jurisdictions.

Grayson · 05-06-2019 01:30PM

Hal3000 wrote: »

Very unfair for victims too.. Quite frankly I don't care about prisoners. 3 strike rule could be for violent - major crimes. I don't care less about anyone who commits such a crime. We need a party that's tough on this type of crime.

You should be sentenced appropriately for each crime you commit. Three strikes is stupid because you get sentenced disproportionately for the third sentence.

The irony here is that people are saying there isn't appropriate sentencing for particular crimes, so they want disproportionate sentencing for a minor one.

Kivaro wrote: »

That's a poor response from you to the brutal rape of a woman.
Was it because it was an Irish woman that was raped?

That wasn't a response to the rape of a woman, it was a reaction to posters. You knew that though.

05-06-2019 01:34PM

El_Bee wrote: »

They should have told the judge they were:
from a disadvantaged background

had a difficult home life

battling substance abuse issues

had a "rough time of it"

were promising footballers at one point

deeply regret the moment of madness

trying to get back on track

These all work a charm on Irish Judges, may as well have a punt in other jurisdictions.

You left out that such accused suggest they have a learning disability

Grayson · 05-06-2019 01:36PM

Varik wrote: »

The burglary prior counted for him.

A violent felony is still required, California change one part a few years ago so that the 3rd strike had to be a violent felony rather than in this case any of the persons priors.

It's not required for the third strike was the point. You could steal a muffin and end up with 25 to life because previously you'd committed a felony.

I remember one guy who was done because police searched his house and found a bong. Possession of drug paraphernalia is what got him sentenced to 25 years.

El_Bee · 05-06-2019 02:01PM

Deleted User wrote: »

You left out that such accused suggest they have a learning disability

forgot about that, **** around in school your entire childhood, learn nothing, can barely spell your own name, solicitor calls it a learning disability.

El_Bee · 05-06-2019 02:04PM

Grayson wrote: »

Three strikes is stupid because you get sentenced disproportionately for the third sentence.

Can do the time? don't do the crime. how many people have been brutalized by repeat offenders with double digit convictions? Society deserves a long break from these people, so it getting 25 years for littering when your previous 2 were violent crimes, I'm finding it hard to care.

4068ac1elhodqr · 05-06-2019 02:16PM

News today is 8yrs for a similar type (classed as 'extremely violent') of crime on the streets of Dublin (had to be pulled off his victim)
https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2019/0605/1053606-rape-sentence/

It's not 25yrs, but wonder if he will actually do the full term, or be out half-way for 'good behaviour' or something.

Gimme A Pound · 05-06-2019 02:33PM

Grayson wrote: »

That wasn't a response to the rape of a woman, it was a reaction to posters. You knew that though.

Which posters though? Nobody said anything unreasonable before the whataboutery in question kicked off.

Gimme A Pound · 05-06-2019 02:33PM

El_Bee wrote: »

forgot about that, **** around in school your entire childhood, learn nothing, can barely spell your own name, solicitor calls it a learning disability.

That implies they actually bothered going to school.

2 frenchmen get 25 years for rape and barbarity.

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