2019 Diamond League

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Common fecking sense at last, I did not hear them complain about Michael Phelps having
1. Double jointed ankles
2. Disproportionate arm length relative to body
3. Most critically, genetic mutation allowing him to produce less than half the lactic acid of rivals.

All successful athletes have huge genetic advantages over your standard person (and even more pronounced at elite level).

Should Basketball be capped at a height of 5'10" (Average height)?
Boxers only have a set reach?

Semenya is only allowed to compete until her appeal is heard, this is not a ban lift and it is highly unlikely that it will be overturned by CAS.

Before I get in the fatal flaw of your argument which is a logical fallacy called false equivalence. A few points about your points. Micheal Phelps does not have a genetic mutation that allows him to produce half the lactate of his rivals. Athletes will in general have a higher lactate tolerance or higher rate of lactate clearance. Lactate is fuel so a high clearance rate means he has a very strong aerobic system, a high tolerance like another swimmer who produces twice the amount of Phelps means that swimmer has a very powerful anaerobic system(much stronger than Phelps). This isn't a one way street where lower means better, if you tested ever elite swimmer in those events, you would find that some would have much less lactate production than twice Phelps(very aerobically strong swimmers)and others would have more than twice(very anaerobically strong swimmers). For the hell of it, someone might come along and produce more than twice Phelps Lactate in a few years and dominate and the same media outlets will say that he has an incredible tolerance to lactate. It's the way psyiology works.

On the boxing point re reach. Boxing is already a divided sport within male competition when it comes to weight.

The basketball comparison has been shot down by almost everyone already as a false equivalence. Better comparisons would be along these lines.

Would it be ok for Phelps to compete in Women's swimming?
Would it be ok for Anthony Joshua to compete in Women's boxing?
Would it be ok for Lebron to compete in the WNBA?

Stretched but more relevant questions in this debate.

The line is drawn on Biological SEX. Making comparisons within unprotected division in MALE sports with Phelps and Basketball is a false equivalence. It sounds good and wins over people but those arguments are logically irrational, they make no sense in this debate. Women are protected in sport because if they weren't, a female athlete would never win a world title or at any sport.

Caster Semenya, Francine Niyonsaba or any of the other 6 or 7 46XY DSD athletes who have already been officially effected by the CAS ruling are not Female in a sport where the dividing line is a SEX line. This is not a Micheal Phelps type advantage over other men, this is about the difference between male and female performance(the most significant performance gap in this species). These athletes are intersex, have genetic male chromosome profiles, some have testosterone levels in excess of the average males(albeit with less sensitivity) and underwent male puberty. The comparison you make with Phelps advantage in the male division is like comparing grains of sand in the Sahara when there's a much wider picture when you stand back.

With good pacing, Cheryuiout has a legitimate chance at El G's 1500m World record in Monaco.

He went through 800m in 1:49 in Lausanne which is insane(3:39 mile pace or 3:24 1500 pace) and that was with a 53 first lap!!! At 1100m, Cheryuiout was still dead on EL G's World Record split of 2:32.5 and just a couple of tenths outside at 1200m but EL G had gone out much slower for the first 800.

El G 1500 WR splits(3:26.00)v Cherouiyt 1500 Luasanne.

400m: 54.3 v 53.86
800: 1:50.7 v 1:49.41
1100: 2:32.5 v 2:32.4
1200: 2:46.3 v 2:46.62
1500: 3:26.00 v 3:28.72

The end result might look like a huge difference but Cherouiyt was hanging on World record pace through 1200 despite the idiotic early pace. Anytime El G attempted to go through 4/8/1200m quicker than his WR splits, he caved just as bad as Cheryuiout and EL G never opened up with a 53/1:49 which is insane.

El G also had incredible pacemaking in that World Record as his pacemaker would burst on to the global scene just months later and would become the second fastest miler of all-time and Olympic Champion in 2000, Noah Ngeny. He managed to take EL G through 1200+ that day.

With just how fast the Monaco track is compared to Lausanne(which is a more sprint biased track) and really good pacemaking, I think Cheryuiout is a legitimate threat to that World Record in Monaco this year.