Slow drivers.... Slow for a reason...

Doctors room ghost · 02-06-2019 04:57PM

If you are involved in an accident on the hard shoulder you’re insurance company can refuse to pay out.

tuxy · 02-06-2019 05:05PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

If you are involved in an accident on the hard shoulder you’re insurance company can refuse to pay out.

Are you sure? Even third party? I don't believe it.
Actually I'm not aware of any circumstances where they can refuse 3rd party cover. That's why many won't take on people that are considered high risk.

corks finest · 02-06-2019 05:19PM

Blazer wrote: »

Had a tractor holding up a convoy of cars yesterday and causing a 3 mile tailback.
The prick refused to pull in anyway even though there was several places with plenty of space for him to safely do so.
15 minutes behind this asshole and I was praying the ****er would drop dead at his wheel.
As regards the ASD child..both my children are ASD and the important thing is routine. By that woman slowing down so as not to trigger her child she has in fact done worse because now drivers are being impeded by her and obviously are beeping at her which is now triggering her son again.
What she should have done was drive at a normal speed to get him used to it and make it part of their routine.

Good points,and as for the bloody farmers some are disastrous,most are mature enough to cop on and move in to let traffic pass

Blazer · 02-06-2019 05:31PM

corks finest wrote: »

Good points,and as for the bloody farmers some are disastrous,most are mature enough to cop on and move in to let traffic pass

yeah I was amazed as its been a long time since I met a farmer who didn't pull over. I come across them fairly regularly and never have problems.
This guy was just being a complete ahole.

Blazer · 02-06-2019 05:38PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

3 mile tailback? really?

Why would he pull over?

He is as entitled as you are to be on the road, plus if it was only a short journey, 15 mins, if he pulled over for every person in a car he would never get to his destination

yep...he was driving on the N20 between Limerick and Charleville.
This guy actually drove past several locations safe to pull in, then through Banogue where there's an area that could hold an artic lorry, then at Rook's cross which has a petrol station which would also allow him to pull in. He just kept driving until he reached the turn off to Athlacca.
If you knew the N20 you'd know its a crazy busy road, a dangerous road so not safe at all for overtaking hence the crazy tailback situation.
Hell you should see that road on a Sunday evening with all the people going back to Cork for the week. I've seen traffic flow from Charleville getting backed up all the way back onto the motorway at Limerick some Sunday evenings.

Shefwedfan · 02-06-2019 05:38PM

corks finest wrote: »

Good points,and as for the bloody farmers some are disastrous,most are mature enough to cop on and move in to let traffic pass

Maturity and cop on is exactly what is required

Not by the farmer, the people behind them

Doctors room ghost · 02-06-2019 05:39PM

tuxy wrote: »

Are you sure? Even third party? I don't believe it.
Actually I'm not aware of any circumstances where they can refuse 3rd party cover. That's why many won't take on people that are considered high risk.

Yeah they will question why you were driving in the hard shoulder when you are not allowed to do so. The purpose of the hard shoulder is to allow for emergency break downs.they are not for traveling in

tuxy · 02-06-2019 05:44PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Yeah they will question why you were driving in the hard shoulder when you are not allowed to do so. The purpose of the hard shoulder is to allow for emergency break downs.they are not for traveling in

They can't refuse their obligation for 3rd party cover. If the person who owns the policy does something ilegal they still have to pay out to other parties once it's a legitimate claim. After paying out they can try to reclaim it from their former client.

Micky 32 · 02-06-2019 06:10PM

tuxy wrote: »

Because of the higher fatality rate on US roads and also some European countries?

I'm just back from the USA. I go there every 5/6 months and i hire a car and do a lot of driving. It's great driving there as everyone drives at least the speed limit no slow drivers. One of the roads i was on had a sign saying speed limit 55mph along with saying 40mph mininum.

tuxy · 02-06-2019 06:19PM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I'm just back from the USA. I go there every 5/6 months and i hire a car and do a lot of driving. It's great driving there as everyone drives at least the speed limit no slow drivers. One of the roads i was on had a sign saying speed limit 55mph along with saying 40mph mininum.

3 times higher road fatalities per capita. Makes them look like a developing nation.
What do you think is at fault?

Micky 32 · 02-06-2019 06:28PM

Traffic for one, more cars per area compared to here. Traffic can be horrendous there hence somethings gotta give that's what you get with cheap fuel. Crazy drivers another reason they can be very impatient. For example, on the motorway (highway) i was in the middle lane once, a guy was on the outside lane. Just when i'm right at an exit the guy on the outside lane decides that he'll take that exit so like in the movies he just locks his steering and shoots across and makes his exit by missing me by inches.

Isambard · 02-06-2019 06:53PM

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Yeah they will question why you were driving in the hard shoulder when you are not allowed to do so. The purpose of the hard shoulder is to allow for emergency break downs.they are not for traveling in

the Law says you may pull over on to the hard shoulder on a non-motorway to allow faster traffic to pass you.

Otherwise they must be expecting a lot of emergencies when the UK manage pretty well without them at all on most roads.

02-06-2019 08:33PM

beauf wrote: »

If you are getting that angry you need to ask yourself why?

You're right I've a lot of unresolved issues surrounding vehicles and speed rooted in my youth...there's just so much hurt and anger...and I guess that manifests itself in me lashing out at slow drivers. Maybe I've a borderline personality? Or am even a psychopath?

Would ya ever give over - it's perfectly acceptable that some people might get frustrated at someone else voluntarily deciding for them to waste their finite life/time

Nobody likes having their time wasted and it makes nearly everyone annoyed at least at some point in their life - frustration is a normal response, it is not indicative of some deeper pathology or something as you imply. Spare us all the armchair psychoanalysis please and thank you.

beauf · 02-06-2019 08:41PM

Batrachotox wrote: »

...Spare us all the armchair psychoanalysis please and thank you....

...Touched a nerve obviously... Lol

02-06-2019 08:51PM

beauf wrote: »

...Touched a nerve obviously... Lol

OMG doc how'd you do that?! Get out of my head!!!:eek:

Nah though.

You: "Hey what's up with people getting annoyed at annoying things???"
Me: "People normally get annoyed at annoying things"

Fin.

beauf · 02-06-2019 11:59PM

There's annoyed and there's wishing people dead.

corks finest · 03-06-2019 12:19AM

Blazer wrote: »

corks finest wrote: »

Good points,and as for the bloody farmers some are disastrous,most are mature enough to cop on and move in to let traffic pass

yeah I was amazed as its been a long time since I met a farmer who didn't pull over. I come across them fairly regularly and never have problems.
This guy was just being a complete ahole.

Some are young and don't dive a ****e or foreign and probably don't know it's not how it's done ,but probably the whole lot are under so much pressure they're just trying to get it done,you'd think they'd be starting at first light though instead of school time/ work time 7.30 / 8.30

03-06-2019 01:07AM

beauf wrote: »

There's annoyed and there's wishing people dead.

unless one is very good indeed at wishing it's the exact same thing

beauf · 03-06-2019 01:08AM

corks finest wrote: »

Some are young and don't dive a ****e or foreign and probably don't know it's not how it's done ,but probably the whole lot are under so much pressure they're just trying to get it done,you'd think they'd be starting at first light though instead of school time/ work time 7.30 / 8.30

Probably like most of the road they don't care about anyone else.

beauf · 03-06-2019 02:22AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

unless one is very good indeed at wishing it's the exact same thing

I know what you mean. I now drive to a soundtrack of speed metal, very calming. Lyric FM was making me angry, or annoyed, or frustrated. All the same thing.

realdanbreen · 03-06-2019 08:16AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

tuxy wrote: »

Because of the higher fatality rate on US roads and also some European countries?

I'm just back from the USA. I go there every 5/6 months and i hire a car and do a lot of driving. It's great driving there as everyone drives at least the speed limit no slow drivers. One of the roads i was on had a sign saying speed limit 55mph along with saying 40mph mininum.

Really? I spend lot of time in South Carolina. The state is similar in size and population to Ireland. Do you know that road deaths average 750 per year there! An appalling death rate and appalling driving habits.

realdanbreen · 03-06-2019 08:28AM

corks finest wrote: »

Blazer wrote: »

corks finest wrote: »

Good points,and as for the bloody farmers some are disastrous,most are mature enough to cop on and move in to let traffic pass

yeah I was amazed as its been a long time since I met a farmer who didn't pull over. I come across them fairly regularly and never have problems.
This guy was just being a complete ahole.

Some are young and don't dive a ****e or foreign and probably don't know it's not how it's done ,but probably the whole lot are under so much pressure they're just trying to get it done,you'd think they'd be starting at first light though instead of school time/ work time 7.30 / 8.30

Most farmers have been driving big machines since they were 12 years of age and this time of year would have several hours work done before some gobshyte in a souped up civic comes along beeping and flashing because he was too lazy getting out of bed. He's lucky the farmer didn't get off the tractor and catch him by the throat!

03-06-2019 09:12AM

beauf wrote: »

There's annoyed and there's wishing people dead.

Of course. But ya see I'm not sure that poster was actually wishing death on the person...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

Dravokivich · 03-06-2019 10:01AM

is_that_so wrote: »

I tend to pull in for tailgaters if I can and get them out of my mirrors! Very annoying but less common IMO these days. Let them bother someone else.

I'm not going out of my way for a tailgater. If they wanna be close to me, they'll be doing it slowly. If they cant get around me, they should think more about what's going on around them and why.

AndrewJRenko · 03-06-2019 10:27AM

Micky 32 wrote: »

I'm just back from the USA. I go there every 5/6 months and i hire a car and do a lot of driving. It's great driving there as everyone drives at least the speed limit no slow drivers. One of the roads i was on had a sign saying speed limit 55mph along with saying 40mph mininum.

About 100 people are killed each day on US roads, around 30k a year. Tell me more about this 'great driving' there?

beauf · 03-06-2019 10:32AM

Batrachotox wrote: »

Of course. But ya see I'm not sure that poster was actually wishing death on the person...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperbole

So you're implying it's normal to get so angry about everyday things like traffic you wish people dead. A journey to the local shops to get bread and milk must a roller coaster of emotion so...

Simply mentioning the word angry seems to have pushed some buttons here. Otherwise why make such a big deal out of it.

The standard of driving and road etiquette is abysmal. If you were to get angry everyone you see someone dinging driving like a moron your blood pressure would be constantly thorough the roof.

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beauf · 03-06-2019 10:38AM

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

About 100 people are killed each day on US roads, around 30k a year. Tell me more about this 'great driving' there?

States is weird. One place will have strict speed limits and set very low, the next you're got 8 lane highway and everyone speeding.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thrillist.com/amphtml/cars/nation/how-likely-you-are-to-die-in-a-car-accident-in-every-us-state-the-most-dangerous-roads-in-america

States varies a lot between states also.

beauf · 03-06-2019 10:45AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'm not going out of my way for a tailgater. If they wanna be close to me, they'll be doing it slowly. If they cant get around me, they should think more about what's going on around them and why.

I don't see why you want them CLOSER to you. Personally I let them by fast as possible. They are more likely to have an accident and I'd prefer they do that somewhere else.

It's interesting that many tailgaters slow down once they have no one in front of them. They need a car in front to match speed with. They struggle to keep a constant speed without someone to follow.

blade1 · 03-06-2019 10:49AM

They should have penalty points for slow drivers.

is_that_so · 03-06-2019 10:51AM

Dravokivich wrote: »

I'm not going out of my way for a tailgater. If they wanna be close to me, they'll be doing it slowly. If they cant get around me, they should think more about what's going on around them and why.

Each to their own but life is really far too short to involve them in my life any longer than is necessary.

Slow drivers.... Slow for a reason...

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