Are looks the main thing in life?

topper75 · 31-05-2019 09:42AM

Omackeral wrote: »

No matter how good looking you think someone else's gf is, she's absolutely 100% melting her bloke's head to take out the bins every Tuesday.

Aye it may be hard to believe - but somebody, somewhere is absolutely sick of listening to her ****.

Andrewf20 · 31-05-2019 09:45AM

I'd say confidence is more important than looks.

Gimme A Pound · 31-05-2019 09:51AM

Gerry G wrote: »

No matter how stunningly beautiful a woman may be, somewhere, some lad is fed up riding her

topper75 wrote: »

Aye it may be hard to believe - but somebody, somewhere is absolutely sick of listening to her ****.

Or maybe not. Many women are not awful people. :eek:

valoren · 31-05-2019 09:59AM

Andrewf20 wrote: »

I'd say confidence is more important than looks.

I've always loved the Austin Powers movies as the core running joke is that the main character is the antithesis of good looking. He is short, wears hideous glasses, has horrible teeth, is flabby with a worryingly hairy chest and presumably has a small mickey considering he wrote a book about his relationship with his "swedish made" penis enlarging pump.

Chris Hemsworth he is not. And yet in spite of all that against him, he is extremely successful with the ladies bedding beauties of all nationalities. So what gives? While it might be a joke there is a core learning lesson there and it's about confidence, self-esteem and self-belief. While the Liz Hurley character with her modern sensibilities is initially repulsed by Powers' looks and his "sh1ts n' giggles" attitude but over the course of the film she see's beyond the looks and see's those core traits of unflinching confidence in Powers. The film calls it his mojo. He's just an extremely self-assured man whose moral compass is firmly in the right place and whose happy-go-lucky "shall we shag now or shag later?" attitude actually is a breath of fresh air from the navel gazing, self-doubting men, no matter how subjectively good looking they are. It's a lesson for any man who thinks looks are all that matters.

Bigbagofcans · 31-05-2019 10:09AM

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

Looks fade over time but a good personality only grows stronger.

Not for everyone. I know a few people who age like a fine wine

super_furry · 31-05-2019 10:21AM

valoren wrote: »

I've always loved the Austin Powers movies as the core running joke is that the main character is the antithesis of good looking. He is short, wears hideous glasses, has horrible teeth, is flabby with a worryingly hairy chest and presumably has a small mickey considering he wrote a book about his relationship with his "swedish made" penis enlarging pump.

Chris Hemsworth he is not. And yet in spite of all that against him, he is extremely successful with the ladies bedding beauties of all nationalities. So what gives? While it might be a joke there is a core learning lesson there and it's about confidence, self-esteem and self-belief. While the Liz Hurley character with her modern sensibilities is initially repulsed by Powers' looks and his "sh1ts n' giggles" attitude but over the course of the film she see's beyond the looks and see's those core traits of unflinching confidence in Powers. The film calls it his mojo. He's just an extremely self-assured man whose moral compass is firmly in the right place and whose happy-go-lucky "shall we shag now or shag later?" attitude actually is a breath of fresh air from the navel gazing, self-doubting men, no matter how subjectively good looking they are. It's a lesson for any man who thinks looks are all that matters.

Honestly I think this is the most serious anyone has ever been about a series of films that have characters that include.... Felicity Shagwell, Robin Swallows, Ivana Humpalot, Alotta Fagina and of course Fook Me and Fook Yu.

Hamsterchops · 31-05-2019 10:27AM

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

Are looks the main thing in life?

No, obviously not.

joe40 · 31-05-2019 10:37AM

I think it is a bit more that just good looking in the traditional sense.

I don't know how, but looks can also convey a personality type to a certain extent. (which may turn out to be false)

For example someone can look confident or friendly, or even appear aggressive just from their looks, but their real personality doesn't necessarily reflect that.

I don't know enough about the psychology of this but I have seen people make instant judgements about someone from an extremely brief interaction, I have done it myself. Looks feed into that initial judgement.

So I think if you look confident, or charismatic if is a great advantage in getting over that "first impression" stage.

anewme · 31-05-2019 10:39AM

Nikki Sixx wrote: »

I’d imagine there are a lot less depression issues in extremely good-looking people? Surely they don’t suffer from as many confidence issues either.

You'd be totally wrong there.

Look at all of the famous and stunningly beautiful people and exceptionally talented and rich people that have committed suicide. its a long list.

Depression is a condition that effects people irrespective of their circumstances.

How many people have said "sure what had he/she to be depressed about"

This is where people need to educate themselves a bit before making these sweeping comments.

Thelonious Monk · 31-05-2019 10:41AM

Ronan|Raven wrote: »

Looks fade over time but a good personality only grows stronger.

They don't really. You're still good looking for your age. Ugly people are still ugly no matter what age you are.

Grayson · 31-05-2019 10:47AM

Years ago I had a friend who said that if he had kids he would prefer them to be beautiful rather than smart. I thought it was horribly offensive but I have to admit now he had a point.

It's not that looks are everything but if you don't have them it's a lot of work. Good looking people do have advantages that others don't. Although for women it's probably a double edged sword. They will also get a lot of unwanted attention.

Grayson · 31-05-2019 10:50AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

They don't really. You're still good looking for your age. Ugly people are still ugly no matter what age you are.

With the exception of childhood. We've all known pretty children who look weird as adults (Macauley culkin anyone?). The opposite occurs too.

Then there's the fact that your body can be ravaged with age. Pregnancy in particular can take a toil on a woman's body. Men can lose their hair. And both genders can put on weight.

Ush1 · 31-05-2019 10:53AM

Hope that your children are dumb and good-looking.

wakka12 · 31-05-2019 10:53AM

Grayson wrote: »

With the exception of childhood. We've all known pretty children who look weird as adults (Macauley culkin anyone?). The opposite occurs too.

Then there's the fact that your body can be ravaged with age. Pregnancy in particular can take a toil on a woman's body. Men can lose their hair. And both genders can put on weight.

Yeh but ugly women get fatter and ugly men still lose their hair with age too, so they look worse again than good looking people of same age who suffered same effects of ageing

anewme · 31-05-2019 10:54AM

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

They don't really. You're still good looking for your age. Ugly people are still ugly no matter what age you are.

I agree and disagree with this.

But sometimes people grow into or out of their looks or "shine" at a particular time in their life.

I know a lot of the very good looking people in my school year have aged very badly, both men and women whereas some of the plainer people back then now look much more attractive than they did then.

A lot is down to health, lifestyle and those who have done better for themselves have the funds for grooming, clothes gyms etc, rather than those who are financially struggling and stressed and this goes a huge way towards keeping/maintaining looks.

Wibbs · 31-05-2019 10:54AM

super_furry wrote: »

Honestly I think this is the most serious anyone has ever been about a series of films that have characters that include.... Felicity Shagwell, Robin Swallows, Ivana Humpalot, Alotta Fagina and of course Fook Me and Fook Yu.

never mind that it's a fantasy, a story, makey uppey. If one was to believe Hollywood the average looking guy working in a cubicle ends up with [insert currently fashionable babe here] after she gets tired of the good looking rich bloke. Wish fulfilment, not reality. Reality is she'll end up with the rich good looking bloke 99% of the time. Just like the billionaire boss in Mills and Boon will much more likely toddle off with the "bikini bimbo" half his age rather than plain Ann from accounts(though Silicon Valley nerds can skew this. QV Zuckerberg of ArseBook).

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

They don't really. You're still good looking for your age. Ugly people are still ugly no matter what age you are.

Pretty much. That stuff is always trotted out on this subject. Oh you might be gorgeous at 20, but just wait... your looks will fade. It's always said with more than a hint of glee too.

Again the reality is unless you pile on the fat, or otherwise wreck your health with bad lifestyle choices,(or, and more rarely build a better physique and lifestyle and improve your looks) if you're good looking/average/back of a bus at 20, you'll be good looking/average/back of a bus at 50.

Dial Hard · 31-05-2019 10:55AM

They're not the main thing in life by any stretch of the imagination but do they help? Yes, of course they do. It's incredibly naive to think or suggest otherwise.

What I always find interesting about these threads, though, is how they almost invariably present looks V personality as a binary either/or situation, as if people can only be good-looking but dickheads, or sound but ugly.

Some of the most attractive people I know are incredibly personable, funny and intelligent. Likewise, I've known plenty of utter dickbags with faces only a mother could love. There's also a weird attitude you see on here all the time that the only good-looking people with good personalities are the ones who aren't aware of their looks. Also bollix, in my opinion. Attractive people tend to know they're attractive. But if they're sound, it matters not a jot.

Wibbs · 31-05-2019 11:00AM

Dial Hard wrote: »

They're not the main thing in life by any stretch of the imagination but do they help? Yes, of course they do. It's incredibly naive to think or suggest otherwise.

What I always find interesting about these threads, though, is how they almost invariably present looks V personality as a binary either/or situation, as if people can only be good-looking but dickheads, or sound but ugly.

Some of the most attractive people I know are incredibly personable, funny and intelligent. Likewise, I've known plenty of utter dickbags with faces only a mother could love. There's also a weird attitude you see on here all the time that the only good-looking people with good personalities are the ones who aren't aware of their looks. Also bollix, in my opinion. Attractive people tend to know they're attractive. But if they're sound, it matters not a jot.

Quoted for truth. Especially the binary either/or part. Seems to be a self hugging thing with some that life balances out somehow and this is more equitable. It doesn't. Hell, everyone here, even if they've a face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle, has through dumb luck been born in the first world and all the life bonus points that brings with it. That's not "fair" either.

Ush1 · 31-05-2019 11:01AM

Dial Hard wrote: »

They're not the main thing in life by any stretch of the imagination but do they help? Yes, of course they do. It's incredibly naive to think or suggest otherwise.

What I always find interesting about these threads, though, is how they almost invariably present looks V personality as a binary either/or situation, as if people can only be good-looking but dickheads, or sound but ugly.

Some of the most attractive people I know are incredibly personable, funny and intelligent. Likewise, I've known plenty of utter dickbags with faces only a mother could love. There's also a weird attitude you see on here all the time that the only good-looking people with good personalities are the ones who aren't aware of their looks. Also bollix, in my opinion. Attractive people tend to know they're attractive. But if they're sound, it matters not a jot.

Same rubbish about athletes or muscular people being thick. Makes actual thick unattractive people feel better about themselves I suppose.

Bigbagofcans · 31-05-2019 11:03AM

Wibbs wrote: »

if you're good looking/average/back of a bus at 20, you'll be good looking/average/back of a bus at 50.

Good looking/average can be good looking at 20 and average at 50, and average at 20 can be good looking at 50. But 'back of a bus' will nearly always stay 'back of a bus'.

Gimme A Pound · 31-05-2019 11:13AM

Wibbs wrote: »

Quoted for truth. Especially the binary either/or part. Seems to be a self hugging thing with some that life balances out somehow and this is more equitable. It doesn't. Hell, everyone here, even if they've a face like a bulldog licking piss off a nettle, has through dumb luck been born in the first world and all the life bonus points that brings with it. That's not "fair" either.

Like people telling themselves "karma" exists, or "bullies deep down are extremely cowardly, unhappy people".

And as we see here "guarantee you hot women are a nightmare for their boyfriends" - from guys who'd love to be with a hot woman.

Projection central.

Wibbs · 31-05-2019 11:14AM

Ush1 wrote: »

Same rubbish about athletes or muscular people being thick. Makes actual thick unattractive people feel better about themselves I suppose.

True, though I have found over the years that there can be an element of truth to the "Jocks" being less brainy than the "Nerds". This does not mean athletes or muscular people are automatically thick and the chicken chested weaklings are automatically clever, but out of a hundred Jocks and a hundred Nerds, there will be far more thicks and average brained among the former, just like in the latter group you'll find more socially awkward types. I'd say this is more the case with men. It doesn't seem to follow nearly so much with women for some reason. Though that's just my experience to be fair.

Wibbs · 31-05-2019 11:16AM

Bruce Fresh Muffler wrote: »

Like people telling themselves "karma" exists, or "bullies deep down are extremely cowardly, unhappy people".

And as we see here "guarantee you hot women are a nightmare for their boyfriends" - from guys who'd love to be with a hot woman.

Projection central.

+1. Never mind given the choice between a "hot woman" and an "uggo" being a nightmare, nobody's going to pick the uggo.

veryangryman · 31-05-2019 11:19AM

Jim Jefferies knows...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gx2yj6bE1J8

blinding · 31-05-2019 11:20AM

I like ugly people .

They make me feel better about myself .

I only meant to think that and not actually type it !

Nikki Sixx · 31-05-2019 11:21AM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

The worst human I've ever known was also quite possibly the ugliest

I think there is something in that alright. The heavy people at my work are incredibly bossy and aggressive in nature. It’s there way or the highway.

Deebles McBeebles · 31-05-2019 11:22AM

Bruce Fresh Muffler wrote: »

Like people telling themselves "karma" exists, or "bullies deep down are extremely cowardly, unhappy people".

And as we see here "guarantee you hot women are a nightmare for their boyfriends" - from guys who'd love to be with a hot woman.

Projection central.

Agreed but I assumed they were trying to be funny. Maybe I'm wrong but you might be taking the comments a bit too seriously.

maccored · 31-05-2019 11:39AM

after a while you cop on to the fact that beauty is skin deep. if i'd a choice between an ungly woman who had a heart of gold or a beaut who was a bitch, I know which I'd go for (ie a beaut with a heart of gold)

jim o doom · 31-05-2019 11:42AM

I disagree. Look at Jeff Bezos of amazon. He is one ugly looking dude, but he is a billionaire.

Like many super rich men, he can have what he wants, when he wants, including beautiful women, regardless of his looks.

Gimme A Pound · 31-05-2019 11:46AM

jim o doom wrote: »

I disagree. Look at Jeff Bezos of amazon. He is one ugly looking dude, but he is a billionaire.

Like many super rich men, he can have what he wants, when he wants, including beautiful women, regardless of his looks.

Obviously his money is a substitute for good looks (he's not actually that ugly imo) - this thread is about looks alone though.

Are looks the main thing in life?

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