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Slow drivers.... Slow for a reason...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    Does she mention what speed she travels at?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Ah that's kind of BS. Nine times out of ten its some aul lad or aul one who's just doing their best.

    If you're in any way a decent driver you should know that you need to anticipate unexpected situations and drive at a speed that allows you to react to them in time.

    Encountering a much slower vehicle isn't that rare and if you find it's creating a dangerous situation, you're probably not that great shakes a driver yourself.

    Do you actually drive? If you do, you should pretty easily be able to think of a few scenarios where this is the case (i.e. dangerous slow drivers), nay, should be able to give your own personal experience of dangerous slow drivers.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    givyjoe wrote: »
    Do you actually drive?

    I already said I did.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Blaizes


    The roads have become more aggressive though, people are in a rush for sure but some awful rudeness even in car parks. Was yielding to a reversing car in a supermarket a few weeks ago guy behind me starting blowing the horn then proceeded to try to overtake when in fact there was nowhere to go . As he was doing so he started shouting in the window at me asking me what the f*** I was doing. I very calmly told him I was in the right position on the road and had done nothing wrong then ignored him. Was upset afterwards when I came home and just think there are some absolute pigs out there. Think I handled myself well though.

    Driving too slow on the road is dangerous though I agree just pull in to the hard shoulder and let the other vehicle over take.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    I already said I did.

    Not in the post I'm quoting you didn't. If you do drive, are you seriously telling me you haven't experienced multiple examples of dangerous situations caused by slow drivers?


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    givyjoe wrote: »
    If you do drive, are you seriously telling me you haven't experienced multiple examples of dangerous situations caused by slow drivers?

    Not really, no. And I live in an area that has a decent population of elderly people squinting over the wheels of slow moving Micras and Yaris's.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭LirW


    Duffryman wrote: »
    When you say 'doing his license', do you mean he's preparing to sit a driving test?

    If so, then with all due respect, he'll fail his test if he drives at just 65 km/h in an 80 km/h zone. It's called 'lack of progress' and is one of the most common reasons for failing.

    Jesus, that was when he started driving outside of the town where he had his first lessons, since we live in the middle of nowhere and everything around us is a culchie racecourse where it's windy and 2 cars can barely pass.

    There are many roads where 80 is the speed limit but in reality it's quite dangerous doing so because it's windy, narrow, full of potholes or the edge of the road is in sh1te.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Ah that's kind of BS. Nine times out of ten its some aul lad or aul one who's just doing their best.

    If you're in any way a decent driver you should know that you need to anticipate unexpected situations and drive at a speed that allows you to react to them in time.

    Encountering a much slower vehicle isn't that rare and if you find it's creating a dangerous situation, you're probably not that great shakes a driver yourself.

    The very existence of those unexpected situations makes the roads less safer. Let's put random concrete barriers on motoways while we're at it, surely proper drives will have no problem in spotting them and safely pass around them, and the ones that don't, well, we'll be culling the herd :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Not really, no. And I live in an area that has a decent population of elderly people squinting over the wheels of slow moving Micras and Yaris's.

    So lots of city driving then and not so much on the country roads? I find it incredibly hard to believe that any experienced driver who regularly drives on country roads, has not experienced some dope driving dangerously slow. What often then happens is there's a build up behind the person waiting for a safe opportunity to over take, before some bell end tries a multi car overtake. All because of the slow idiot in front.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,646 ✭✭✭_blaaz


    givyjoe wrote: »
    how exactly are drivers behind a slow driver, supposed to know this is the reason why she's driving slow?

    Maybe its something to consider before getting cross?


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    givyjoe wrote: »
    So lots of city driving then and not so much on the country roads? I find it incredibly hard to believe that any experienced driver who regularly drives on country roads, has not experienced some dope driving dangerously slow. What often then happens is there's a build up behind the person waiting for a safe opportunity to over take, before some bell end tries a multi car overtake. All because of the slow idiot in front.

    No, lots of rural driving too. And I've experienced that situation plenty of times. In that situation, it's the bell end attempting the dangerous overtake who is causing the hazard.

    As I said in my first post, most of the problems are caused by impatient f**ks.

    Relax and wait till it's safe to overtake.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Indeed, impatient f**ks cause a lot of problems, and slow drivers cause impatient f**ks to get impatient :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    _blaaz wrote: »
    Maybe its something to consider before getting cross?

    You're joking right? I should consider from here forth, that every driver driving 'too slow' may be because of an autistic child? As others pointed out, it is a requirement of the rules of the road, to drive up to the speed limit if the conditions allow. More so something slow drivers should be considering than the other way around.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,729 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Listening to the local radio station today and a lady text in.

    She has to make a 20km drive from her home to school, for her child who is autistic child 5 days a week. She drives under a certain speed so not to upset/trigger off her son.

    Everyday. Everyday, she says she get hooted at and is the victim of road rage from other drivers. She said the beeping and hooting distresses her son.

    My heart actually broke for her. What a distressing suitation to be in.

    I've posted this so to make others aware that maybe not all slow drivers are pain in the hole and should get off the road.

    I'm guilty myself for road rage, but this really makes me think twice, we really don't know the full story. If your in a rush or late for work.... That's ur responsibility... Leave 10min earlier next time.

    Let's just be more aware of people who have it tougher than us.

    Yeah it's a ****ty situation for her but it's not really other people's problem is it? No one else on the road would even be aware of her predicament. It's extremely entitled of her to think she has the right to cause dangerous situations and inconvenience on the road 5 days a week because of it, and expect everyone else to just deal with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    No, lots of rural driving too. And I've experienced that situation plenty of times. In that situation, it's the bell end attempting the dangerous overtake who is causing the hazard.

    As I said in my first post, most of the problems are caused by impatient f**ks.

    Relax and wait till it's safe to overtake.

    They quite clearly are not the ones causing the dangerous situation, making it worse yes. The situation and tail back, only exists in the first place due to the slow driver. Experienced my arse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,942 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    It's a difficult situation. You don't indicate how slowly she has to drive or the type of road, how much of of a tailback is caused and whether there is any safe opportunity for other drivers to overtake or for her to pull in to allow other traffic by.

    Other driver's aren't aware why she is driving so slowly.

    A driver can get penalty points and fine for driving without reasonable consideration. I am aware of at least one driver who did for driving too slowly. Depending on how slow they are travelling in relation to other traffic they can present a hazard to other road users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,656 ✭✭✭somefeen


    givyjoe wrote: »
    So lots of city driving then and not so much on the country roads? I find it incredibly hard to believe that any experienced driver who regularly drives on country roads, has not experienced some dope driving dangerously slow. What often then happens is there's a build up behind the person waiting for a safe opportunity to over take, before some bell end tries a multi car overtake. All because of the slow idiot in front.

    That's the fault of bellend trying the multiple car over take though. No one forces them to try a dangerous manoeuvre.
    A lack of courtesy by a slow driver is only dangerous by way of other peoples reaction to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Simple get her to put a notice on rear of car.... Speed limiter fitted.... Please pass safely....

    I'd wonder is she one that sticks to the centre line ...


  • Posts: 996 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    In that situation, it's the bell end attempting the dangerous overtake who is causing the hazard.

    Nah, it's not.

    It's the inconsiderate bell end not conforming to the standards of the road and holding everyone up - take them out of them equation and everyone gets to where they're going just fine (and about 50% quicker).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    somefeen wrote: »
    That's the fault of bellend trying the multiple car over take though. No one forces them to try a dangerous manoeuvre.
    A lack of courtesy by a slow driver is only dangerous by way of other peoples reaction to it.

    It's literally something you are tested on before you get your license, you drive 'too slow', you dont get your license. No excessively slow driver, means no tail back exists for someone to attempt a dangerous overtake. No slow driver means no one at all has to even attempt a safe overtake.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭garv123


    anacc wrote: »
    Surely there's some sort of window sticker or bumper sticker for the back of the car that could say "slow driver, autistic passenger" or something. Bit like people give L plates a break for driving slow.

    you can get every sort of sticker these days, "Princess on board" "Baby on board"

    austistic-500x500.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,474 ✭✭✭Obvious Desperate Breakfasts


    Sometimes people have to go slow too if they are carrying certain wheelchair-ridden passengers. It must be really stressful, everyone probably assuming that you’re a Sunday driver.


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,277 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    givyjoe wrote: »
    They quite clearly are not the ones causing the dangerous situation, making it worse yes. The situation and tail back, only exists in the first place due to the slow driver. Experienced my arse.

    Don't you see that if everyone was just a bit more patient and waited until it was safe to overtake, there'd be no hazard? Nobody's being forced to perform a dangerous overtake. They're choosing to do so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,831 ✭✭✭Cordell


    Can she use one of those yellow or orange strobe light? The kind used by slow or stationary vehicles like road maintenance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 ✭✭✭givyjoe


    Don't you see that if everyone was just a bit more patient and waited until it was safe to overtake, there'd be no hazard? Nobody's being forced to perform a dangerous overtake. They're choosing to do so.

    Jesus wept, in the situation I'm describing, there is only one person not abiding by the rules of the road!!! Please give them a re read. Patience has nothing to do with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    I'm a fast driver, I never go 80 (speed limit) where we live because it is not safe. There is lazy approach to speed limits in Ireland. They are set to suit the category of road not the state of the road.

    Anyway overly slow drivers annoy me. Usually your driving has to be pretty poor or very slow if people start beeping.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 809 ✭✭✭Blaizes


    Snipp wrote: »
    Driving too slow is just as dangerous as speeding as someone has already mentioned. Not driving at a "suitable speed" relative to the speed limit and other road users is actually a failable offence if taking the driving test. I'm sure her son would find it very difficult to even distinguish what speed they are travelling at anyway.

    You’d actually be surprised some kids do get car sick on car journeys. We’ve had it a few times and the clean up is horrendous won’t even go there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭cajonlardo


    Not everyone is messing about

    Day in day out, 24/7 there are people responding to emergency, as in life and death, call outs whilst driving their own private motor

    Most fire stations for one example, in this country are manned by part time retained crews.
    When they are paged they typically drive to the station. Someone, somewhere is in danger or incredible pain and that person is praying for that crew to come and help

    But never mind, you go ahead with your great big self satisfied head doing 40 in an 80kph zone. Your self righteousness trumps a coastal rescue crewman racing against time to save a fisherman or an on call Doctor or any other emergency.
    You can sit at home in your slippers congratulating yourself on your personal victory.


  • Posts: 996 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Don't you see that if everyone was just a bit more patient and waited until it was safe to overtake, there'd be no hazard? Nobody's being forced to perform a dangerous overtake. They're choosing to do so.

    No. Why should they just because some selfish asshole decides their time is more valuable than that of others?

    If you were walking down the street on a narrow path on your way home from work etc and some eejit ambles directly in front of you walking veeerrrryyy slllllooooowwwlllllyyyyy and not letting you pass, I doubt you'd think to yourself "This is fine, I'll just be patient" and go along accepting it.

    Realistically you'd get annoyed quite quickly and step onto the road and go around them before proceeding on as you had been.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,976 ✭✭✭daheff


    I'm guilty myself for road rage, but this really makes me think twice, we really don't know the full story.

    I appreciate this lady's predicament. People shouldnt bully her off the road. Road rage isnt appropriate ever.
    If your in a rush or late for work.... That's ur responsibility... Leave 10min earlier next time.
    .

    But this...this really pushes my buttons. You assume i am too lazy or disorganised to leave on time. Maybe you should think twice before making these statements.

    I drop my kids to school before going to work. I CANT leave them earlier as the school isnt open. Traffic delays can cause me to be later than I want to be.


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