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VW Neo (eGolf replacement)

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  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    Something like that, the emissions are done by group, there are two ways to reduce the fine, reduce the emissions to lower the score and increase the fleet weight to increase the target.
    A heavy Audi EV SUV has a triple impact.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    liamog wrote: »
    Something like that, the emissions are done by group, there are two ways to reduce the fine, reduce the emissions to lower the score and increase the fleet weight to increase the target.
    A heavy Audi EV SUV has a triple impact.

    Thanks

    Regulation like that is the only way these auto giants are going to go electric

    Makes sense now why Mercedes, Audi etc are rushing SUV EV's


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,437 ✭✭✭September1


    If counting starts to work in 2020 there is big incentive to delay introduction and sale of EVs until then...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,912 ✭✭✭Mike9832


    September1 wrote: »
    If counting starts to work in 2020 there is big incentive to delay introduction and sale of EVs until then...

    Thinks its in now, with 20/21 targets more aggressive

    VW " coming soon" has been a thing for years


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Fitz2011


    https://www.zap-map.com/vw-open-books-for-id-3-deposits/
    I assume we will get the same spec as the uk ? ID 3 1st Plus trim. Or would VW Ireland have the power to decide a different spec?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭Phibsboro


    Fitz2011 wrote: »
    https://www.zap-map.com/vw-open-books-for-id-3-deposits/
    I assume we will get the same spec as the uk ? ID 3 1st Plus trim. Or would VW Ireland have the power to decide a different spec?

    I'd love to get the panoramic roof so it would be a pity if we only had the plus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Fitz2011


    Phibsboro wrote: »
    I'd love to get the panoramic roof so it would be a pity if we only had the plus.

    Hopefully they bring in the top spec but it will more than likely be the same as the uk spec I’d say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    Fitz2011 wrote: »
    Hopefully they bring in the top spec but it will more than likely be the same as the uk spec I’d say.

    I agree that it would be easy for them to give one spec to Ireland and the UK. But there is a reason for the UK to get the lesser spec. They have a luxury car tax that applies to cars over 40k, before incentives. The thought is that the lower spec is to keep the price below this.

    We have no such no such tax here, so it would be reasonable to for us to expect the higher spec.

    Now, reasonable and Ireland in the same sentence aren't often heard, especially in motoring matters. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,578 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    and we've another budget to get though before delivery.... negative change to bik and I'm out...I'd like the bik guaranteed in the next budget for a few years.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I wouldn't get too hung up on efficiency, it will suit the majority of people I'm sure. There's more to life than driving a car that has the best efficiency particularly if it can charge at 100 Kw or more, this will make a big difference.

    I'd be more concerned what it's like inside and what it's like to drive more than efficiency. If it can do the majority of my driving on EV alone then I'm happy.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    and we've another budget to get though before delivery.... negative change to bik and I'm out...I'd like the bik guaranteed in the next budget for a few years.


    The uptake in company cars is tiny....It is extended for 3 years in last years budget.....


  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 8,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭liamog


    https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?depth=1&nv=1&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=https://app.handelsblatt.com/unternehmen/industrie/autobauer-vw-will-e-kleinwagen-in-osteuropa-bauen/24349376.html%3Fticket%3DST-1864749-t3M6y9gRpGOVuXtlROQn-ap1&xid=17259,15700021,15700186,15700190,15700253,15700256,15700259&usg=ALkJrhjU-E_MXE6WTvLd4SaUT5XE_lyzaA

    More 'reports' out of Germany. Apparently the plan was to produce the smaller MEB model which would likely replace the Polo in the factory at Emden. Looks like they can't pull that off due to labor costs, so will likely do so in Slovakia instead.

    What's interesting from the article is they mention they will now make the Tiguan sized crossover (ID Crozz) there. Apparently demand for the ID.3 is enough to fill the 330,000/year capacity at Zwickau.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,578 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    The GTi one or what ever it is looks a lot better than the standard one in that picture with the black rims and tinted windows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    That bulge under the screen looks like it's stuck on with double sided tape. I hope that's part of the camo and not the finished product. :o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,578 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Yea probably part of the disguise, there not 20 inch rims either.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Couple of videos up of it driving, very hard to tell anything from them

    It will all depend on the interior


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,349 ✭✭✭Phibsboro


    Dear Lord that bump is dreadful, praying it is just a stick on piece!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,578 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It's been in all the pictures it's there under the camouflage.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,553 ✭✭✭✭Dempsey


    Never noticed the bump before, nearly a deal breaker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,578 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Is it for pedestrians to bounce them over the car or something.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,479 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Can't unsee it now

    Fiat-Multipla-680x510.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 35 vidukasp


    Here’s the electric Volkswagen ID.3 stripped of camouflage.

    https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/heres-electric-volkswagen-id3-stripped-camouflage

    vw_id3_rearquarter.jpg?itok=tC6AXXry

    vw_id3_frontquarter.jpg?itok=Zpsr1Ony


  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭SaintsYB


    I'm really not a fan of that black part below the windscreen. Even if it body coloured it wouldn't be too bad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,578 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    It's got potential, looks good from the back and sides, 20 inch rims are the business, sporty front bumper would set it off.

    Do we have a name for the black part yet, the brow? What's it do?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,005 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    It's a bit bland. Conservative looking. In other words just like any other Volkswagen. It will sell well :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    vidukasp wrote: »
    Here’s the electric Volkswagen ID.3 stripped of camouflage.

    You're aware that this is just a Photoship of what Top Gear think it will look like?

    Bild did the same thing recently too.

    I'm sure it's not far off, based on the camo car, but the detail won't be there.

    Every time I see the bags under windscreen, it turns me off. The Seat El Born looks much better without it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Mupchease


    If that’s what it ends up looking like I think il stick to the egolf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭FaganJr


    I like it with the exception to the graphics on the rear quarter panel, I know this may never be seen on one of these, but overall its a winner for me!


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,479 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    The back looks very similar to the Seat El-Born concept they showed in Geneva.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Mickeroo wrote: »
    The back looks very similar to the Seat El-Born concept they showed in Geneva.


    Not trying to be a smart arse or anything


    But people do realise the El-born is the ID with a Seat badge on it. When it does get released I would guess the minimal will be done to the exterior and the interior will have some differences


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,578 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    You're aware that this is just a Photoship of what Top Gear think it will look like?

    They stripped the camoflage graphics back using Photoshop, it's not a made up image. There's a difference.


  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,479 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Not trying to be a smart arse or anything


    But people do realise the El-born is the ID with a Seat badge on it. When it does get released I would guess the minimal will be done to the exterior and the interior will have some differences

    Yes I'm well aware of that.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    They stripped the camoflage graphics back using Photoshop, it's not a made up image. There's a difference.




    It's not made up like the stuff you see from Tesla fanboys but not the finished article either.



    Putting it bluntly it looks like a Golf but more modern. Lets say the combustion engine Golf if it was still going in 2025 would probably look similar....


    Personally I like it, but that's no surprise. Really the outside is minor. I dont sit in the outside, the interior will be make or breakb


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,890 ✭✭✭creedp


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    It's not made up like the stuff you see from Tesla fanboys but not the finished article either.



    Putting it bluntly it looks like a Golf but more modern. Lets say the combustion engine Golf if it was still going in 2025 would probably look similar....


    Personally I like it, but that's no surprise. Really the outside is minor. I dont sit in the outside, the interior will be make or breakb

    Doubt it as it would be too radical a change for the evolutionary Golf .. maybe what the Golf wold look like by 2035!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    creedp wrote: »
    Doubt it as it would be too radical a change for the evolutionary Golf .. maybe what the Golf wold look like by 2035!!!


    I keep forgetting it is nearly 2020 :p


    VW Golf mk10 maybe would be similar


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 66,005 ✭✭✭✭unkel
    Chauffe, Marcel, chauffe!


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Putting it bluntly it looks like a Golf but more modern. Lets say the combustion engine Golf if it was still going in 2025 would probably look similar....

    They were my thoughts exactly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    They stripped the camoflage graphics back using Photoshop, it's not a made up image. There's a difference.

    Yes it's a Photoshop of what VW have allowed us to see so far. Which is why I said it wouldn't be far off, but details like the camera at the top of the screen are just blank, what else is?

    My local dealer seems to think that the bags under the eyes might be just to cover some of the tech that the Seat won't have, so just more camo. I hope he's right. He's seen the car in the flesh, but he's guessing as much as we all are. Top Gear and Bild included.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭CFC007


    There’s a new clip here that shows the HUD. also, says on the website that the wheels are 18”. I knew 20s were too good to be true.

    https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/e-mobility/en/id-family/id.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,578 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    All models of the first edition are getting 20's...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,819 ✭✭✭Silent Running


    CFC007 wrote: »
    There’s a new clip here that shows the HUD. also, says on the website that the wheels are 18”. I knew 20s were too good to be true.

    https://www.volkswagen.co.uk/e-mobility/en/id-family/id.html

    The first video shows the digital dash. Which one has the HUD in it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 841 ✭✭✭CFC007


    Apologies I meant the digital dash.
    The first video shows the digital dash. Which one has the HUD in it?


  • Registered Users Posts: 214 ✭✭pdpmur


    CFC007 wrote: »
    Apologies I meant the digital dash.

    The quick shot of the digital dash (and control stalk) looks to me to be pretty much identical to published photos of the Seat el-born dash area, even down to the hexagonal shape of the dash.
    So I would hazard a guess that the rest of the ID3 cockpit area will be pretty much as per the el-born concept.
    Incidentally, the el-born doesn't have the same 'tache below the front windscreen that the ID seems to be sporting. If Seat can get the production car looking close to the concept then Seat could be on to a winner. Pity that VW will almost definitely delay the Seat release until after the ID sales are well underway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 32 Fitz2011


    pdpmur wrote: »
    The quick shot of the digital dash (and control stalk) looks to me to be pretty much identical to published photos of the Seat el-born dash area, even down to the hexagonal shape of the dash.
    So I would hazard a guess that the rest of the ID3 cockpit area will be pretty much as per the el-born concept.
    Incidentally, the el-born doesn't have the same 'tache below the front windscreen that the ID seems to be sporting. If Seat can get the production car looking close to the concept then Seat could be on to a winner. Pity that VW will almost definitely delay the Seat release until after the ID sales are well underway.
    I was talking with a Seat dealer about it. He says order books open next summer for delivery January 2021.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭paddy1976


    Hi lads - Paddy Comyn here again from Volkswagen - just want to check in with you guys again about maybe getting some of you to try the ID.3 nice and early....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 618 ✭✭✭FaganJr


    paddy1976 wrote:
    Hi lads - Paddy Comyn here again from Volkswagen - just want to check in with you guys again about maybe getting some of you to try the ID.3 nice and early....

    How do we do that Paddy??


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭paddy1976


    I will chat to Unkel about it....


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭eagerv


    paddy1976 wrote: »
    Hi lads - Paddy Comyn here again from Volkswagen - just want to check in with you guys again about maybe getting some of you to try the ID.3 nice and early....


    Would love to...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,249 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    Tempted by an ID3, will wait Till they hit the roads here first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,845 ✭✭✭rx8


    paddy1976 wrote: »
    Hi lads - Paddy Comyn here again from Volkswagen - just want to check in with you guys again about maybe getting some of you to try the ID.3 nice and early....

    That would be great Paddy, can't wait for my car to arrive. I've ordered the 1st Plus. How do I sign up?


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