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Irish Rugby and Sevens

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    #962
    Bazzo
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    troyzer wrote: »
    I would imagine academy players get more at the provinces, no?

    I mean, even a non test player like Adam Byrne is probably making enough to fund half of the squad.

    Dunno what exactly they're on now but academy players a few years ago were on €8,000 a year along with accommodation & food paid for - and it had just been brought up a fair bit at that stage.

    It's possible the 7s players also have their food & lodgings paid I suppose, haven't looked into it or read the statement yet.


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    #963
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    troyzer wrote: »
    I would imagine academy players get more at the provinces, no?

    I mean, even a non test player like Adam Byrne is probably making enough to fund half of the squad.

    Academy players are on below minimum wage in most cases and as said in the article, they've lined the Sevens contracts up with development contracts as they feel it's still a developmental game for them.


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    #964
    nerd69
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    It's a shame I can see us not lasting in the world series with that


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    #965
    D14Rugby
    Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    Bazzo wrote: »
    Dunno what exactly they're on now but academy players a few years ago were on €8,000 a year along with accommodation & food paid for - and it had just been brought up a fair bit at that stage.

    It's possible the 7s players also have their food & lodgings paid I suppose, haven't looked into it or read the statement yet.

    They don't get their food and lodgings paid for and as far as I'm aware the players themselves were under the impression that their wages would rise quite a bit if they qualified for the world series so this could get messy if they don't. The IRFU are asking them for more commitment, more travel, at a higher level, with more money coming into the Union with no extra pay, that won't go down well if that's the case.


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    #966
    MaybeMaybe
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    https://www.world.rugby/sevens-series/stage/1885/match#

    live stream for today


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    #967
    First Up
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    On Sky Sports too.


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    #968
    errlloyd
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    New Zealand absolutely ferocious at the breakdown


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    #969
    Melodeon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,310 ✭✭✭Melodeon


    Ireland match schedule for today:
    vs. England - 12:04
    vs. New Zealand - 14:48
    vs. Scotland - 17:54


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    #970
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Ireland look really good here.


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    #971
    munsterlegend
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    Conroy a nervous wreck.


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    #972
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Solid win. Conroy very poor though.


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    #973
    munsterlegend
    Registered Users Posts: 6,166 ✭✭✭munsterlegend


    Great win Ireland


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    #974
    First Up
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    troyzer wrote:
    Solid win. Conroy very poor though.

    Hope he'll learn from that.


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    #975
    errlloyd
    Registered Users Posts: 12,607 ✭✭✭✭errlloyd


    Ah lads. Love this team.


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    #976
    nerd69
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    Beating England 2 years in a row in England is a serious statement really hope they can keep this team together


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    #977
    errlloyd
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    Honestly though. We'd be much better off letting England win it and try qualify for the Olympics!


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    #978
    D14Rugby
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    nerd69 wrote: »
    Beating England 2 years in a row in England is a serious statement really hope they can keep this team together

    If they don't up their pay they won't.


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    #979
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    D14Rugby wrote: »
    If they don't up their pay they won't.

    Don't really see how the IRFU can justify it as a 'developmental game' any more when the team is performing at the top level and winning against tier 1 nations.


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    #980
    D14Rugby
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    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Don't really see how the IRFU can justify it as a 'developmental game' any more when the team is performing at the top level and winning against tier 1 nations.

    They can't justify it. They expect the likes of Dardis to turn down advances from foreign clubs for basically no money, Nucifora is just exploiting the Irish want to play for and in Ireland that is ingrained in irish Rugby and was a strength but he's beginning to use it as a weapon.


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    #981
    Rigor Mortis
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    They can't justify it. They expect the likes of Dardis to turn down advances from foreign clubs for basically no money, Nucifora is just exploiting the Irish want to play for and in Ireland that is ingrained in irish Rugby and was a strength but he's beginning to use it as a weapon.

    Let’s take a step back. They have been funded to achieve World Series status. They will undoubtedly see a significant bump as World Series funding and increased sponsorship kicks in.
    Until a short while ago these guys were playing in the European sevens series which to be frank is similar level to where our international basketball team is.
    Sevens is a drain on resources and whatever commitment we make comes at the expense of women’s XV, AIL and the other aspects of the game. We should fund it, but let’s not kid ourselves these teams are ever going to be on top cash


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    #982
    Bridge93
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    No one is saying they should be on top money. Just more than what they’re on now given the increase in standard and commitment it will require. It’s taking advantage of them to not.

    If the irfu see it purely as a development team still given everything then fine I guess (although that would be fairly disappointing and disrespectful) as they’ll lose the best players to contracts elsewhere


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    #983
    ScrubsfanChris
    Registered Users Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    They're not a world series team until next year. Obviously they won't get pay increase until then.
    I thought they're current pay was a well know fact.

    The players welfare union is currently working on getting pay increase.


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    #984
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭troyzer


    ScrubsfanChris wrote: »
    They're not a world series team until next year. Obviously they won't get pay increase until then.
    I thought they're current pay was a well know fact.

    The players welfare union is currently working on getting pay increase.

    Nucifora was giving the impression that they want a full world series with the current pay levels before it's reviewed.

    Presumably he wants the assurance that Ireland are competitive at the top level and can guarantee the revenue to support themselves to allow bigger contracts.


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    #985
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    ScrubsfanChris wrote: »
    They're not a world series team until next year. Obviously they won't get pay increase until then.
    I thought they're current pay was a well know fact.

    The players welfare union is currently working on getting pay increase.

    The issue is that Nucifora has said they won't get a salary increase, and has mooted suggestions from the squad of getting sponsorship for them.

    At the start of this season, the players were attempting to hold out for a larger contract, but conceded on the word that if they reached the world series their contracts would be renegotiated and brought up to a higher standard required for a full time world series core team. But Nucifora and the IRFU are now saying this won't happen.


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    #986
    D14Rugby
    Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    Rigor Mortis wrote: »
    Let’s take a step back. They have been funded to achieve World Series status. They will undoubtedly see a significant bump as World Series funding and increased sponsorship kicks in.
    Until a short while ago these guys were playing in the European sevens series which to be frank is similar level to where our international basketball team is.
    Sevens is a drain on resources and whatever commitment we make comes at the expense of women’s XV, AIL and the other aspects of the game. We should fund it, but let’s not kid ourselves these teams are ever going to be on top cash

    Nucifora has openly and conclusively said they won't see a pay increase despite the increased income.
    You're seriously underestimating how lucrative the main 7s circuit is.
    If anything it has been funded at the "expense" of the mens 15s team.


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    #987
    ScrubsfanChris
    Registered Users Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    The issue is that Nucifora has said they won't get a salary increase, and has mooted suggestions from the squad of getting sponsorship for them.

    At the start of this season, the players were attempting to hold out for a larger contract, but conceded on the word that if they reached the world series their contracts would be renegotiated and brought up to a higher standard required for a full time world series core team. But Nucifora and the IRFU are now saying this won't happen.
    Might change their mind when there's a walk out. Once there's the tiniest bit of media attention I can see them conceding.


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    #988
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,634 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    ScrubsfanChris wrote: »
    Might change their mind when there's a walk out. Once there's the tiniest bit of media attention I can see them conceding.

    The issue is, at that point you've already shown a serious level of disrespect to the players to force them to have to walk out and potentially miss a world series event, after telling them the season before they would be rewarded for their hard work after accepting a measly contract.

    Some of the players have offers from abroad to play 15s or play with club side 7s teams. Why would they want to stay and represent a union that only decides to pay them a fair amount to save their own face from the media, and not because they value the players.


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    #989
    ScrubsfanChris
    Registered Users Posts: 8,599 ✭✭✭ScrubsfanChris


    Well that was a nice piece of pathetic tackling.....


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    #990
    D14Rugby
    Registered Users Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭D14Rugby


    When you hear the rough number players were told they'd get a year ago if they qualified for the series and the number they're now being told they'll get, I'd be striking anyway.


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    #991
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,200 ✭✭✭troyzer


    These lads are unplayable


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