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    #872
    westtip
    Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Sam Russell wrote: »

    This velorail project has to be taken as a joke.
    .

    exactly and it is scuppered and on hold at the moment as it needs planning permission, no more money should be spent on it until that is sorted out.


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    #873
    Scarlet42
    Registered Users Posts: 446 ✭✭Scarlet42


    Has anything been done on the Velorail? where has all that money gone?


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    #874
    derekbro
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    Scarlet42 wrote: »
    Has anything been done on the Velorail? where has all that money gone?

    Hopefully this gets funded to find out.

    https://www.noteworthy.ie/proposal/mayo-velorail-planning-28-May2019


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    #875
    Lord Glentoran
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    derekbro wrote: »
    Hopefully this gets funded to find out.

    https://www.noteworthy.ie/proposal/mayo-velorail-planning-28-May2019

    The irony. Funding sought to prevent funding for project objected to by the funders who want to seek funding to prevent project... etc ad nauseum...


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    #876
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,422 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    Lord Glentoran wrote: »
    The irony. Funding sought to prevent funding for project objected to by the funders who want to seek funding to prevent project... etc ad nauseum...

    Well, no.

    They are looking for funding from volunteers to investigate what happened to the half a million that has been allocated to a project that has little chance of proceeding. That is they are asking the general public to dip into their own pockets.

    They are not looking for public funding to investigate public funding.


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    #877
    L1011
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    Could see this end up before PAC.


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    #878
    [Deleted User]
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    L1011 wrote: »
    Could see this end up before PAC.

    Could? Should!


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    #879
    eastwest
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Deleted User wrote: »
    L1011 wrote: »
    Could see this end up before PAC.

    Could? Should!
    Will


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    #880
    Lord Glentoran
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    eastwest wrote: »
    Will

    Adjudication on Approved Pastimes. That sure is a fine use of public money alright.


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    #881
    eastwest
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Lord Glentoran wrote: »
    eastwest wrote: »
    Will

    Adjudication on Approved Pastimes. That sure is a fine use of public money alright.
    Are you talking about the half million thrown at a project that didn't have planning permission, or a bit of work for a few TDs who are being paid anyway?


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    #882
    [Deleted User]
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    See attached for Scope of Services - Western Rail Corridor Extension Financial Review


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    #883
    Sligo eye
    Closed Accounts Posts: 168 ✭✭Sligo eye


    Lord Glentoran wrote: »
    Adjudication on Approved Pastimes. That sure is a fine use of public money alright.

    For an official list of approved pastimes that may be undertaken in the State, please apply in writing to:

    An Bord Rothiaocht
    Inis Crohan
    Co. Sligeach.


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    #884
    eastwest
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Sligo eye wrote: »
    Lord Glentoran wrote: »
    Adjudication on Approved Pastimes. That sure is a fine use of public money alright.

    For an official list of approved pastimes that may be undertaken in the State, please apply in writing to:

    An Bord Rothiaocht
    Inis Crohan
    Co. Sligeach.
    This democracy nonsense is a bitch, isn't it?


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    #885
    Muckyboots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Muckyboots


    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1131514357010051072
    Hon the Ringer...


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    #886
    eastwest
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Muckyboots wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1131514357010051072
    Hon the Ringer...
    A touch of irony in the 'accountability' bubble in that ad.
    'Holding the council to account' doesn't mean throwing money at one of their projects that hasn't even got planning permission.


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    #887
    Lord Glentoran
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    Sligo eye wrote: »
    For an official list of approved pastimes that may be undertaken in the State, please apply in writing to:

    An Bord Rothiaocht
    Inis Crohan
    Co. Sligeach.

    Only those with a fully up to date Notion-free passbook will have correspondence entered into.


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    #888
    westtip
    Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    What is the passenger capacity of the three coach diesel units that IR have on the WRC from Limerick to Galway that run on the WRC from Ennis to Athenry.


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    #889
    goingnowhere
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    192


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    #890
    Lord Glentoran
    Closed Accounts Posts: 876 ✭✭✭Lord Glentoran


    Muckyboots wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1131514357010051072
    Hon the Ringer...

    Front runner in the Euros Mairead McGuinness must surely have an opinion on this


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    #891
    eastwest
    Registered Users Posts: 1,610 ✭✭✭eastwest


    Lord Glentoran wrote: »
    Sligo eye wrote: »
    For an official list of approved pastimes that may be undertaken in the State, please apply in writing to:

    An Bord Rothiaocht
    Inis Crohan
    Co. Sligeach.

    Only those with a fully up to date Notion-free passbook will have correspondence entered into.
    Too obscure for my limited brain I'm afraid.
    Are you talking about throwing taxpayer money away, or about what you did on your holidays?


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    #892
    westtip
    Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    goingnowhere wrote: »
    192

    Thanks, the average number of passenger on trains on Ennis/Athenry section have plent of leg room then with 64 passenger capacity per coach and an average payload of 13 passengers per coach.....more to come on these figures soon


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    #893
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,422 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    westtip wrote: »
    Thanks, the average number of passenger on trains on Ennis/Athenry section have plenty of leg room then with 64 passenger capacity per coach and an average payload of 13 passengers per coach.....more to come on these figures soon

    13 passengers, that is a minibus load, which might even be quicker if they used the M18.


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    #894
    Pete2k
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    mayo.mick wrote: »
    Another local candidate in Swinford fully behind the greenway

    D6ooY0-W0AIKM_8.jpg

    Unsurprisingly Tom gets nowhere while Murray tops the poll. I wouldn't be holding my breadth on things changing in mayo anytime soon.


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    #895
    Pete2k
    Registered Users Posts: 290 ✭✭Pete2k


    And Shaun Cuniffe who was probably the most vocal on the greenway loses his seat in Tuam. Definite setback for the greenway lobby.


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    #896
    westtip
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    Pete2k wrote: »
    Unsurprisingly Tom gets nowhere while Murray tops the poll. I wouldn't be holding my breadth on things changing in mayo anytime soon.

    From a standing start Tom did very well and to say he got nowhere on this basis is simply untrue, he did not get elected but it was a tough call in such a small ED with 4 standing Cllrs. Murray has been a cllr for how long? so he has an established personal vote, well done to him, but clearly it was a personal vote and not a SF vote based on what happened to his party colleagues nationally.

    Cllr Smyth and Cllr Caulfield are going to push the agenda. We won't hold our breath on anything happening in Mayo if the rest of the council refuse to even debate it and the planning executive continue to mismanage the situation, backing projects with limited appeal and for which they didn't even bother consulting the public about in a planning process

    However, south of Mayo many of us are delighted to see that 23 of the 39 elected Cllrs in Galway are pro Quiet Man Greenway, and north of Mayo that Sligo coco is already on board; So let's see how Galway and Sligo Coco get on whilst the thousands of people in Mayo who support this idea are left stranded by a moribund council. Congratulations again to Gerry Murray, perhaps he might actually start realising that the Greenway on the closed railway is very much up for discussion, as is the proposed Velorail that requires planning permission and people in his constituency care very much support the greenway although it did not prey on their minds when they voted for SF cllr Murray. He is not going to get it his own way forever and the influence of his political masters has diminished based on the votes we have seen over the weekend.


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    #897
    Muckyboots
    Closed Accounts Posts: 652 ✭✭✭Muckyboots


    Pete2k wrote: »
    And Shaun Cuniffe who was probably the most vocal on the greenway loses his seat in Tuam. Definite setback for the greenway lobby.
    Three outgoing Councillors lost their seats. One was a greenway advocate, the other two were WOT merchants. There is now a 6-1 greenway supporting majority in Tuam LEC and the same in Athenry Oranmore. Shaun hasn't lost his voice either. No better man to forward the greenway movement. I'd say Sean Canney is bricking it. :):):)


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    #898
    mayo.mick
    Registered Users Posts: 2,463 ✭✭✭mayo.mick


    Pete2k wrote: »
    Unsurprisingly Tom gets nowhere while Murray tops the poll. I wouldn't be holding my breadth on things changing in mayo anytime soon.

    Indeed. When the greenway reach's Ballindine on the south and Bellaghy on the northern flanks, I'd say things will start to change in Mayo

    Swinford Weather



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    #899
    serfboard
    Registered Users Posts: 4,676 ✭✭✭serfboard


    Pete2k wrote: »
    And Shaun Cuniffe who was probably the most vocal on the greenway loses his seat in Tuam. Definite setback for the greenway lobby.
    You neglected to mention that Billy Connelly (AKA Sean Canney's man) and Tom McHugh, both enthusiastic WOT supporters, lost their seats in Tuam too.

    More definitive setback for the railway lobby.


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    #900
    westtip
    Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    serfboard wrote: »
    You neglected to mention that Billy Connelly (AKA Sean Canney's man) and Tom McHugh, both enthusiastic WOT supporters, lost their seats in Tuam too.

    More definitive setback for the railway lobby.

    Yep Serfboard we are so sorry to lose Shaun from the council, from what I understand Galway Coco is now 23-14 in favour of the Quiet Man Greenway, that is a fairly favourable result I believe but perhaps others could correct me; btw as Shaun Cunniffe lost his seat in the last but one count he was busy bringing down councillor Tom McHugh and the Sean Canney mouthpiece on the council cllr Bill connelly as his transfers went to Greenway allies - I am sure Shaun at least enjoyed that much of the count, knowing his transfers took down two of the most anti greenway cllrs on the council - both of these were serious targets for the greenway campaign to get their supporters not to transfer to them and inadvertently elect them, sounds like greenway vote management to me. cllr Tom Mchugh of course was one of the founding members of West on Track. bye bye Tom


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    #901
    westtip
    Registered Users Posts: 4,282 ✭✭✭westtip


    Press release From: The Western Rail Trail campaign

    28th May 2019 – Stunning result in election for Greenway Campaign

    • Western Rail Trail greenway has full support of Sligo and Galway county councils following election
    • 23/39 councillors support the Quiet Man Greenway in Galway
    • Mayo councillors want the issue to be investigated with feasibility study
    • County councils now need to push for greenway until railway becomes possible
    • Railway study on Athenry – Claremorris section needs to take account of county council views
    • Atlantic Economic Corridor set for tourism boom when Western Rail Trail Greenway is completed from Athenry to Collooney

    The Western Rail Trail campaign; The campaign to utilise the route of the closed railway from Athenry to Sligo as a greenway until such time as a railway might be possible has welcomed the election results in Sligo, Galway and Mayo.

    The Sligo Greenway already had the support of Sligo County Council for a greenway from Collooney to Charlestown on the Mayo border for the Sligo section of the long distance greenway from Collooney to Athenry. This support will continue with the new council. Sligo County Council is now waiting on a decision from the Department of Transport Tourism and Sport on the application for project funding under the national greenway strategy.

    Stunning result in Galway: 23/39 councillors pledged support for Quiet Man Greenway before election

    In Galway the campaign for “The Quiet Man Greenway” which is the Galway brand name for the Greenway from Athenry to Milltown on the Mayo border on the route of the closed railway had a stunning result said Brendan Quinn of the Western Rail Trail Campaign.

    Quinn said “The Quiet Man Greenway Campaign contacted every candidate standing at the recent council elections for Galway county council to secure a commitment to the Quiet Man Greenway project before polling day. A simple question was put to candidates. “If elected will you support the development of the Quiet Man Greenway on the route of the closed railway from Athenry to Milltown”

    With the responses received it meant the campaign could give supporters a clear message. These are the candidates that support us and these are the ones that don’t; please make your preferences accordingly.

    With all the results in, it is clear the message got through. the campaign says that 23 of the 37 elected Galway county councillors have committed to support The Quiet Man Greenway project in the new council chamber.

    Very Clear message in Galway

    “It is a very clear message.” said Quinn, “What’s more important is the support for the Quiet Man Greenway is almost unanimous in the electoral districts which the Quiet Man Greenway will run through; the combined level of support in Athenry Oranmore, Gort Kinvara, Loughrea and Tuam is 20 councillors in favour and 4 against, and we hope the 4 against might be persuaded yet of the value of this project for East Galway.

    Mayo councillors to raise the issue of feasibility study

    In Mayo the local greenway campaign groups, The Kiltimagh Greenway Group and the Swinford to Charlestown Greenway group concentrated efforts on candidates in the Swinford Electoral District which has four councillors. Two of the four elected councillors, Michael Smyth and John Caulfield both gave commitments before the election to press Mayo county council to review their stance on this matter and to raise the potential for a feasibility study.

    “This is a breakthrough in Mayo” said Quinn, “where the county council opposition to the greenway from the planning department and council executive has been consistent. We hope the matter will at least be debated by Mayo councillors now” he added.

    Rail Review needs to take account of election results.

    The independent economic review of the closed railway from Athenry to Claremorris currently being carried out by International consulting company EY DKN, needs to look at what has happened in Galway East. Business owners have been telling the newly elected councillors what the economic impact of a greenway will be; They want to see it happen. An economic review of the closed railway needs to consider the economic impact of alternative uses of the closed railway as well. That is what people have unanimously voted for in Electoral districts from Athenry to Milltown. In every town and village the greenway will pass through the people have supported Greenway supporting councillors. Tourism is critical for the Atlantic Economic Corridor and a greenway from Collooney to Athenry would be a tourism driver for the entire Atlantic Economic Corridor. It now has to become top of the agenda for the economic review of the closed railway.

    With the recent election results the greenway now has to be considered a real economic option.


    Ends contacts via the sligo mayo greenway facebook page or pm via boards


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