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Gangland Shootings [Mod Note in Post #1]

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Wibbs wrote: »
    I must have missed the stories on the large population of folks of Chinese and East Asian origin being caught with knives massing in large gangs to beat the crap out of each other and random passersby.


    Has there been any actual news reports in relation to black gangs? It seems the stories mostly come from twitter and Facebook.

    Wibbs wrote: »
    Ok, so how does one then go on to explain the same issues with immigration and clashes of culture in Britain, France, Italy, Holland, Sweden and so forth? Are they all lacking in those factors you put forward as an explanation?


    I'm sure they have their own issues. I only deal with juveniles in Ireland though so I couldn't tell you exactly what those are.




    Wibbs wrote: »
    That list of countries have quite the variation in approaches, yet all have the same problem. Coincidence? Or more likely the multicultural model is broken and given other countries decades and generations of extra social issues I'm not seeing any actual fixes beyond the usual tired "explanations" and excuses over this failed social experiment.


    Can you tell me how you feel the youths with non Irish backgrounds act differently to the youths with Irish backgrounds?


    So calling each other fam, blud, roadman and naming themselves after their postcodes (exactly the same as London gangs) is Dublin youth culture??


    Mostly.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Has there been any actual news reports in relation to black gangs? It seems the stories mostly come from twitter and Facebook.

    The papers conveniently don't mention it.

    I wonder why?

    I've seen videos of incidents in my area, I've seen the gangs for myself, yet the papers always just say 'a gang' or whatever the other terms are that shy away from descriptions.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    Cha little is a pal of Mr flashy best mates with Zach Parker, relation of Lee Byrne's best mate Biggie Little


    People were saying it was Flashy himself that had Parker killed?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    The papers conveniently don't mention it.

    I wonder why?

    I've seen videos of incidents in my area, I've seen the gangs for myself, yet the papers always just say 'a gang' or whatever the other terms are that shy away from descriptions.


    Most likely because their colour or background is irrelevant. They are engaging in the same behaviour as many white youths in many areas across Dublin and the rest of the country.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 335 ✭✭.Charlo


    El_Bee wrote: »
    People were saying it was Flashy himself that had Parker killed?

    I'm not saying that's correct but...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    .Charlo wrote: »
    I'm not saying that's correct but...


    It's just what was said on here and social media, but he's supposed to have been good friends with him and showed up to his funeral, bizarre.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    The colour or race of scumbags is an entirely secondary problem to the primary issue of there being many people out there who should be locked up until the day they die, racking up hundreds of convictions and being let off by our ridiculous judicial system.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 335 ✭✭.Charlo


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Most likely because their colour or background is irrelevant. They are engaging in the same behaviour as many white youths in many areas across Dublin and the rest of the country.

    Is it irrelevant though? There was a Pakistani taxi driver wanted for a sex attack a few months back, the public got no description of this man.


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    It's all irrelevant, show me the stats etc. Once there are stats it'll be "That's because of racism".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 137 ✭✭SporadicMan


    .Charlo wrote: »
    Is it irrelevant though? There was a Pakistani taxi driver wanted for a sex attack a few months back, the public got no description of this man.

    Never mind the fact that gangs of black lads have specifically targetted white taxi drivers for robbery / assault, even going to the point of cancelling taxis with black drivers if they accepted first.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,042 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Never mind the fact that gangs of black lads have specifically targetted white taxi drivers for robbery / assault, even going to the point of cancelling taxis with black drivers if they accepted first.

    If that’s true that’s an example of total and utter racism isn’t it mrfresh?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 335 ✭✭.Charlo


    If that’s true that’s an example of total and utter racism isn’t it mrfresh?

    cant-be-racist-5a416b.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭White lighting




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    .Charlo wrote: »
    Is it irrelevant though? There was a Pakistani taxi driver wanted for a sex attack a few months back, the public got no description of this man.


    Wasn't he caught though? Why would they release a description of someone they identified?


    Never mind the fact that gangs of black lads have specifically targetted white taxi drivers for robbery / assault, even going to the point of cancelling taxis with black drivers if they accepted first.


    I didn't read about that one. Can you link the story?


    If that’s true that’s an example of total and utter racism isn’t it mrfresh?


    If it was true.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Can you tell me how you feel the youths with Irish backgrounds act differently to the youths with non Irish backgrounds?

    I tampered with your post, I hope you don’t mind but I would say it’s more a culture of colour I remember when we were still white kids; with white pursuits but our youth have been primed for over two decades and counting now with many of them today’s adults in positions of power and influence themselves.

    Not to mention marketing; advertising etc and it takes a stronger willed adolescent with far greater powers of resistance than we ever did require. I would like to think education is key but then the urge to fit in must be truly overwhelming with the urge to succumb to this peer pressure generally winning out. Rinse all we like but they duly will repeat....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Bobblehats wrote: »
    I tampered with your post, I hope you don’t mind but I would say it’s more a culture of colour I remember when we were still white kids; with white pursuits but our youth have been primed for over two decades and counting now with many of them today’s adults in positions of power and influence themselves.

    Not to mention marketing; advertising etc and it takes a stronger willed adolescent with far greater powers of resistance than we ever did require. I would like to think education is key but then the urge to fit in must be truly overwhelming with the urge to succumb to this peer pressure generally winning out. Rinse all we like but they duly will repeat....


    Not really sure what you are getting at there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,707 ✭✭✭Bobblehats


    Well that may be because it has become so inherent.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 933 ✭✭✭El_Bee


    Why is there such resistance to a curfew for under 18's? Unenforceable? or parents just want their kids out of sight out of mind for as long as possible.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler



    Surely has to be a reaction after that considering his father and friend


  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 10,463 Mod ✭✭✭✭xzanti


    Surely has to be a reaction after that considering his father and friend

    Who's his father?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    xzanti wrote: »
    Who's his father?

    His father would have connections, would be related to Bimbo little that passed away in 2011


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    MrFresh wrote: »
    I didn't read about that one. Can you link the story?

    Apologies for the s*n link

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/2065988/vicious-teenage-gang-nicknamed-the-pesties-carrying-out-attacks-on-delivery-men-and-taxi-drivers-in-west-dublin/

    It's well known in Clonee/Ongar/Tyrellstown what was going on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭White lighting


    Another shooting in Darndale


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 693 ✭✭✭The Satanist


    El_Bee wrote: »
    Why is there such resistance to a curfew for under 18's? Unenforceable? or parents just want their kids out of sight out of mind for as long as possible.

    Because it will be up to 2 Gardai in a Hyundai to enforce it, and they'll have no choice but to get back in their car and go away.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    Another shooting in Darndale

    Connected apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 597 ✭✭✭White lighting


    Dead now. Mad 24 hours. Retaliation i wonder???


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,764 ✭✭✭ASOT


    The lad shot now only had a post up about Sean a half an hour ago.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    Dead now. Mad 24 hours. Retaliation i wonder???

    Sounds like the same squad, this lad and Cha are from.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 966 ✭✭✭Tomw86


    ASOT wrote: »
    The lad shot now only had a post up about Sean a half an hour ago.

    A friendly one, or not so?


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 948 ✭✭✭Dirkziggler


    ASOT wrote: »
    The lad shot now only had a post up about Sean a half an hour ago.

    They are the same group of friends. This fella was the man who had the beef with fowler.


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