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Farmer decries "snowflake" veterinary students

  • 16-05-2019 01:53PM
    #1
    Assetbacked
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    https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/farmers-refusing-to-take-on-snowflake-vet-students-38116824.html


    "We put the two students in boots and they went working in the shed. Later that day they came back crying as they didn't like the way one of our workers was shouting at the pigs when moving them," he said. "They never came back, and reported us to the Department of Agriculture.



    Kerry pig farmer Shane McAuliffe said this wasn't an isolated case and labelled some veterinary students as part of a "snowflake generation" that is disconnected from farming.



    Now I think Shane has a valid point in that there is a disconnect to farming from those that eat meat. However, this should really be a warning shot to him as an animal farmer that maybe people would not be so keen to eat meat if they were less-disconnected in that people appreciated fully the process from farm to fork.



    He describes compassionate veterinary students as being "snowflakes" for not liking how pig farmers spoke to the pigs being reared which is a little bit funny and perhaps hypocritical as the main reason people eat cows and pigs instead of dogs and cats is down to societal norms.



    Coupled with the announcement of a farming bailout, it would appear that the tide is going out on the animal farming industry https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/farming-news/big-phils-100m-election-bailout-for-leo-38117362.html


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  • #2
    neris
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,144 ✭✭✭✭neris


    people know where their meats come from they just dont want to think about it. Alot of the younger generation are turning in to a bunch of little ideological group think pussies who cant stand hardship or anything that doesnt agree with their fluffy all is nice with the world type of thinking


  • #3
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    neris wrote: »
    people know where their meats come from they just dont want to think about it. Alot of the younger generation are turning in to a bunch of little ideological group think pussies who cant stand hardship or anything that doesnt agree with their fluffy all is nice with the world type of thinking

    It’s the people who can’t come to terms with people not wanting to eat as much meat and caring about animal welfare who are the real “snowflakes”.


  • #4
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,257 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    If they reported them over shouting at pigs that's obviously ridiculous.

    We're only hearing one side of the story here though.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #5
    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,227 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    I only eat meat from farms that dont shout at the animals.


  • #6
    98q76e12hrflnk
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,203 ✭✭✭98q76e12hrflnk


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    It’s the people who can’t come to terms with people not wanting to eat as much meat and caring about animal welfare who are the real “snowflakes”.

    The only people who care about not eating meat are the non meat eaters, making a big dance about it. Nobody cares


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  • #7
    jam_mac_jam
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    If I thought too much about where my meat came from I wouldn’t eat it so I don’t. I used to be a vegetarian in my youth, couldn’t stick to it as I got older. Still don’t like to think about what a hypocrite I am. Complete fully signed up snowflake.

    A vet crying is a bit much though, how are they going to react when an animal is injured or they have to put it down.


  • #8
    weldoninhio
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,311 ✭✭✭✭weldoninhio


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    It’s the people who can’t come to terms with people not wanting to eat as much meat and caring about animal welfare who are the real “snowflakes”.

    Yes, you often see omnivores in vegan/vegetarian restaurants causing a scene and trying to put people off their tofu. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Oh no, thats the veggies/vegans.


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    If they reported them over shouting at pigs that's obviously ridiculous.

    We're only hearing one side of the story here though.

    I wouldn't be surprised. A few of my mates who are meat eaters are very "shocked" when they see even normal methods and equipment used in organic and right-on farming. Plenty seem to think farm animals should be treated like family pets.


  • #10
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    If I thought too much about where my meat came from I wouldn’t eat it so I don’t. I used to be a vegetarian in my youth, couldn’t stick to it as I got older. Still don’t like to think about what a hypocrite I am. Complete fully signed up snowflake.

    A vet crying is a bit much though, how are they going to react when an animal is injured or they have to put it down.

    There's a difference though between putting an animal down and being injured while being on a farm. Putting it down is most likely in its best interests, to ease suffering for example. Treating an injured farm animal is just prolonging its life before its gratuitous slaughter for food.


  • #11
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/farmers-refusing-to-take-on-snowflake-vet-students-38116824.html
    Now I think Shane has a valid point in that there is a disconnect to farming from those that eat meat. However, this should really be a warning shot to him as an animal farmer that maybe people would not be so keen to eat meat if they were less-disconnected in that people appreciated fully the process from farm to fork.
    He describes compassionate veterinary students as being "snowflakes" for not liking how pig farmers spoke to the pigs being reared which is a little bit funny and perhaps hypocritical as the main reason people eat cows and pigs instead of dogs and cats is down to societal norms.Coupled with the announcement of a farming bailout, it would appear that the tide is going out on the animal farming industry https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/news/farming-news/big-phils-100m-election-bailout-for-leo-38117362.html

    Ah crzist not another thread on the evils of meat and the nasty farmers :rolleyes:
    If someone doesn't eat meat fair enough. No one really cares what anyone wants to eat tbh.


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  • #12
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Yes, you often see omnivores in vegan/vegetarian restaurants causing a scene and trying to put people off their tofu. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Oh no, thats the veggies/vegans.

    Nope people like to talk about these non existent vegans going around telling everyone they’re vegan but from what I can see it’s snowflake meat eaters scared of change making all the noise


  • #13
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    gozunda wrote: »
    Ah crzist not another one :rolleyes:
    If you dont eat meat fair enough. No one really cares what you want to eat tbh.

    Sure what would you do if you couldn’t give out about vegans all day every day on the internet?


  • #14
    Princess Consuela Bananahammock
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Question I'd like to know is: were the vets veggie/vegan?

    If so, then why did they go to a business where animals are bred for slaughter for work esperience?
    If not, then how are they going to react then the animals are killed?

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • #15
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    This comes after this article too further showing the disconnect between farm and fork https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/agri-business/agri-food/ucd-professor-reports-students-mortified-by-farm-visits-38066599.html


  • #16
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Sure what would you do if you couldn’t give out about vegans all day every day on the internet?

    Most vegans are fine in my experience

    But I presume you mean a small number of plant food activists screaming about how bad 'de farmers' are and meat is actually nuclear waste or whatever :rolleyes:


  • #17
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    gozunda wrote: »
    Most vegans are fine in my experience

    But I presume you mean plant food activists screaming about bad de farmers are and meat is actually nuclear waste or whatever :rolleyes:

    Lol two eye rolls already in this thread. I’ve never met a vegan.


  • #18
    TuringBot47
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    Assetbacked wrote: »
    He describes compassionate veterinary students as being "snowflakes"...

    "Snowflakes"? possibly, but clearly they were clueless individuals with no real life experience.
    Reporting a farmer who gave them work experience to help their career is ridiculous.
    Maybe they should learn a little more about their chosen profession.

    It's not all fluffy kittens and supervet TV shows.


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 25,909 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    jam_mac_jam wrote: »
    A vet crying is a bit much though, how are they going to react when an animal is injured or they have to put it down.

    It's an issue picking up steam in the UK especially with Brexit looming, they can't get enough vets for the agriculture sector, they all want to deal with pets.


  • #20
    Thelonious Monk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,513 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Deleted User wrote: »
    It's an issue picking up steam in the UK especially with Brexit looming, they can't get enough vets for the agriculture sector, they all want to deal with pets.

    Would you blame them. Most vets care about animals. Farmers don’t.


  • #21
    gozunda
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,992 ✭✭✭✭gozunda


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Lol two eye rolls already in this thread. I’ve never met a vegan.

    Maybe you should. Btw how many references for de nasty farmers is that now? Lol. Just for you.

    :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


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  • #22
    i71jskz5xu42pb
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    weldoninhio wrote: »
    Yes, you often see omnivores in vegan/vegetarian restaurants causing a scene and trying to put people off their tofu. :rolleyes::rolleyes:


    Oh no, thats the veggies/vegans.



    I'm a meat eater.

    I've never seen what you describe let alone seen it often.

    Don't take a few isolated incidents online colour your view of the real world. Put down your phone and get out a bit.


  • #23
    ganmo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,743 ✭✭✭ganmo


    TuringBot47 wrote: »
    "Snowflakes"? possibly, but clearly they were clueless individuals with no real life experience.
    Reporting a farmer who gave them work experience to help their career is ridiculous.
    Maybe they should learn a little more about their chosen profession.

    It's not all fluffy kittens and supervet TV shows.


    Shane McAuliffe is also a qualified vet, so its not just any old kerry farmer


  • #24
    D3V!L
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,719 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    I personally wouldn't eat a steak that came from a cow that was ya know objectified and abused. Does anyone stop to think about how the cow feels if someone assumes its pronoun ?
    Is there a safe space for the cow in the shed away from other cows where the cow can reflect on its life choices or lack there of ?




    Right before it gets a metal pressurized rod through the head and cut into tasty tasty slices :pac:


  • #25
    IAmTheReign
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 339 ✭✭IAmTheReign


    Thelonious Monk wrote: »
    Nope people like to talk about these non existent vegans going around telling everyone they’re vegan but from what I can see it’s snowflake meat eaters scared of change making all the noise

    Don't forget the shouty farmers too. I hear they're the real problem.


  • #26
    Lollipops23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,420 ✭✭✭Lollipops23


    Hang on, if they're veterinary students, they're probably animal lovers? Why wouldn't they object to animals being manhandled or mistreated?


  • #27
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Don't veterinarians work with animals?


  • #28
    _Brian
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,070 ✭✭✭✭_Brian


    People who never handle animals have no idea.
    Raising your voice and creating a commotion is a great way to move them along without having to interfere with them physically.

    I’d rather that than a lad polling the crap out of them with sticks.


  • #29
    28064212
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,155 ✭✭✭✭28064212


    GLaDOS wrote: »
    If they reported them over shouting at pigs that's obviously ridiculous.

    We're only hearing one side of the story here though.
    From someone with a history of, lets say, misrepresentation.

    TLDR summary: the company make a balls of a photo shoot, resulting in a car accident. Get plenty of abuse. One poster comes on trying to defend them. Gets accused of being an employee, denies it. Lo and behold, it turns out that poster's username is exactly the same as the Twitter handle of one... Shane McAuliffe.

    Incidentally, the user's posts were since deleted. Possibly their feelings were a bit hurt after getting called out by the big, bad internet. Almost... snowflake-like behaviour

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  • #30
    gozunda
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    Giselle Hot Stepchild wrote: »
    I'm a meat eater.

    I've never seen what you describe let alone seen it often. Don't take a few isolated incidents online colour your view of the real world. Put down your phone and get out a bit.

    I think it was to be taken sarcastically...;)


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  • #31
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Lollipops23 wrote: »
    Hang on, if they're veterinary students, they're probably animal lovers? Why wouldn't they object to animals being manhandled or mistreated?
    Shouting?


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