Jeremy Kyle AXED

14-05-2019 02:02PM

freshpopcorn wrote: »

He was always a part and just milked people for entrainment purposes.
Similar to some radio hosts here.
It's almost like they get off on it.

Joe Duffy's faux concern appeals to a base element.

14-05-2019 02:11PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Joe Duffy's faux concern appeals to a base element.

Objection, your honour!

Joe Duffy's faux concern and lack of skill appeals to all-comers, just like a pile-up on the N7.

Read the LiveLine thread in the radio forum. There have been users there, past and present, who have made an art of satirising Duffy.

JupiterKid · 14-05-2019 02:30PM

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Jeremy Kyle is a pathetic human being - and I doubt he is losing any sleep over the death of a baited "guest" but rather that his lurid show and source of money has been axed.

Chris_Heilong · 14-05-2019 02:40PM

It was absolute crap but it was bound to happen now we are living in the age of snowflakes culture.

Cryptopagan · 14-05-2019 02:41PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

That's how I see the Jeremy Kyle show. It's a play about the protagonists (here, the hotel guests) and the people who are upset by it. And if I had a choice, I'd far prefer to be one of the protagonists. It's the angry, fascinated viewer who is trapped in someone else's Hell.

Someone who was on the show actually killed himself and your reaction is to bemoan its cancellation and spout this nonsense?

SusieBlue · 14-05-2019 02:47PM

Its nothing to do with being a "snowflake".
The whole concept of the show was to round up the poorly educated great unwashed from UK council estates, people who largely grew up in situations with domestic abuse, poverty,mental health issues, neglect & addictions, and let them humiliate themselves so that middle class average people could sneer & look down on them.

That was literally the whole point of the show & the faux concern for "aftercare" was all lip service to cover their arses.

The people this show frequently chose to have as guests are unfortunately the kind of people who are ill equipped to deal with the negative attention, pressure & judgement that comes with featuring on a show like this.

Its frankly a miracle that something similar didn't happen sooner.

freshpopcorn · 14-05-2019 02:48PM

Cryptopagan wrote: »

Someone who was on the show actually killed himself and your reaction is to bemoan its cancellation and spout this nonsense?

All those years of listening to Jeremy was going to cause some issues!

KrustyUCC · 14-05-2019 02:49PM

Tragic case

'I CAN'T LIVE WITHOUT YOU' Jeremy Kyle guest died of a drug overdose after failing lie detector test that exposed cheating

Steve Dymond sent a tragic final text to his ex-partner Jane saying: 'I just wanted to say sorry before I go'

Jane said the pair split up after the show — in which Jeremy Kyle had revealed to the audience that Steve failed the lie test.

Just before his death Steve texted Jane to say he could not face life without her. In desperate messages he wrote: "I can’t live without you. I just wanted to come and see you. I just wanted to say sorry before I go. My life is not worth living without you."

Steve was determined to go in front of the cameras despite underlying health worries, ex- fiancée Jane claims.

She told how Steve even got a doctor’s letter confirming he was medically fit so he could take the show’s test in an effort to convince her he had not been unfaithful.

Jane, who said Steve had been diagnosed with depression, added: “He wanted to go on. He was really excited and confident. But it was all a front and I knew it. He wasn’t well at all.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/9067960/jeremy-kyle-show-guest-death-drug-overdose/

Elemonator · 14-05-2019 02:53PM

A lie detector test has cost him his life.

The reliability of lie detector tests is not proven and they can be fooled. They are rarely admissible in courts across the world.

14-05-2019 02:56PM

I hate those shows, making vulnerable people in awful circumstances a laughing stock and a shabby exhibit in one fell swoop.

I don't think much of the more 'highbrow' Dr Phil (PhD, not a medical doctor), who clearly just wants to get in a few catch phrases and to appeal to the moral masses rather than help any situation. His guests are the same vulnerable cohort, just in better clothes. His tactics the same as the odious Kyle, just with a less incendiary vocabulary.

I've watched a few of these shows, they always leave me feeling grubby for intruding.

14-05-2019 02:57PM

Cryptopagan wrote: »

Someone who was on the show actually killed himself and your reaction is to bemoan its cancellation and spout this nonsense?

Yes. It was a fascinating programme. The host was a cnut, but the people were/ are amazing.

It had titles like "Where was my boyfriend when he said he was behind the chicken shop?" and "Amanda strongly denies having fleas". It was humanity at its most brutally, selfless honest; therefore, at its most liberated.

I want to start a petition to bring it back.

Hector Savage · 14-05-2019 02:59PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Yeah, don't know who is worse - the lad in the chair or the gob****e provoking him.

Hard behind his 2 security men!

meeeeh · 14-05-2019 03:00PM

I can proudly say I never saw any of Jeremy Kyle show.

14-05-2019 03:02PM

meeeeh wrote: »

I can proudly say I never saw any of Jeremy Kyle show.

Would you be so proud to admit that you had never read Proust?! It's all the same, it's all soap opera. The trick is not to tangle yourself up in judgement.

Cryptopagan · 14-05-2019 03:06PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Yes. It was a fascinating programme. The host was a cnut, but the people were/ are amazing.

It had titles like "Where was my boyfriend when he said he was behind the chicken shop?" and "Amanda strongly denies having fleas". It was humanity at its most brutally, selfless honest; therefore, at its most liberated.

I want to start a petition to bring it back.

You're just romanticizing them. There is nothing "liberated" about people from the very bottom rung of the UK's socio-economic ladder.

14-05-2019 03:06PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Would you be so proud to admit that you had never read Proust?! It's all the same, it's all soap opera. The trick is not to tangle yourself up in judgement.

Fiction vs reality. Real people with lives so lousy that their claim to fame is an appearance on a crappy tv show where they air their laundry in public where it can be laughed at.

It's hard not to judge those people even though it's not fair - but it's human. That's the premise of the show anyway, that we're entertained by these people with no advantages in life or character, trying to struggle their way through their problems and most importantly failing, for our entertainment.

14-05-2019 03:07PM

Cryptopagan wrote: »

You're just romanticizing them. There is nothing "liberated" about people from the very bottom rung of the UK's socio-economic ladder.

We had better cancel Dickens, so

meeeeh · 14-05-2019 03:07PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

Would you be so proud to admit that you had never read Proust?! It's all the same, it's all soap opera. The trick is not to tangle yourself up in judgement.

No I wouldn't. You can't be smug and admit you never read Proust. Besides it would be a lie.

(Do I get points for extra smugness).

pgj2015 · 14-05-2019 03:09PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBFEBeOTGXc

Outlaw Pete · 14-05-2019 03:11PM

meeeeh wrote: »

You can't be smug and admit you never read Proust.

I'll never know how he managed to write so well driving at that speed.

2smiggy · 14-05-2019 03:15PM

there have been plenty of tales, for example, of guests with drinking problems being put up in hotels the night before the show, and booze being delivered to their rooms unannounced. that's what sort of scum those associated with the the are

Cryptopagan · 14-05-2019 03:16PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

We had better cancel Dickens, so

Dickens was offering a critique of the social and economic conditions that prevailed in Britain during his lifetime. He believed people could and should aspire to better. He certainly wouldn't pretend that his lower class characters were fully liberated agents -- quite the opposite, they were depicted as victims of the existing social order. There is nothing romantic about Dickensian poverty.

14-05-2019 03:23PM

Candie wrote: »

Fiction vs reality. Real people with lives so lousy that their claim to fame is an appearance on a crappy tv show where they air their laundry in public where it can be laughed at.

It's hard not to judge those people even though it's not fair - but it's human. That's the premise of the show anyway, that we're entertained by these people with no advantages in life or character, trying to struggle their way through their problems and most importantly failing, for our entertainment.

You're using words like "lousy" and "crappy" to describe these people's lives, and I think that's pretty unfair.

Firstly, it merits mention that most of them are fascinating. I think that's objectively proven by the sheer popularity of the programme.

Everyone has a lousy life. We just have to make the best of it. Not only are Jeremy Kyle's guests doing the best they can with the cards they've been dealt, they're unashamed. I love this about them.

When I was a youngster, I remember spending an awful lot of time fretting about whether I was poorer or richer than the next boy in class, smarter or more stupid; athletic or awkward. I daresay many people have never moved beyond this, and react with hostility towards those who are (relatively) happy and couldn't care less about others' opinions.

Learned men (and women) have spent centuries stroking their beaux-arts beards, contemplating happiness, and trying to find the fastest route towards it.

It emerges that the truth was before our eyes all along, on daytime TV. Show love, be brashly honest (or else face the wrath of the Lie Detector) and make no apologies for being yourself. Happiness will burst in upon you.

14-05-2019 03:27PM

Cryptopagan wrote: »

Dickens was offering a critique of the social and economic conditions that prevailed in Britain during his lifetime. He believed people could and should aspire to better. He certainly wouldn't pretend that his lower class characters were fully liberated agents -- quite the opposite, they were depicted as victims of the existing social order. There is nothing romantic about Dickensian poverty.

Most of that is true, but Dickens absolutely did also romanticise poverty. It wasn't his main theme, I agree, but he is guilty of that, if we can call it guilt.

14-05-2019 03:39PM

A Tyrant Named Miltiades! wrote: »

You're using words like "lousy" and "crappy" to describe these people's lives, and I think that's pretty unfair.

Firstly, it merits mention that most of them are fascinating. I think that's objectively proven by the sheer popularity of the programme.

Everyone has a lousy life. We just have to make the best of it. Not only are Jeremy Kyle's guests doing the best they can with the cards they've been dealt, they're unashamed. I love this about them.

When I was a youngster, I remember spending an awful lot of time fretting about whether I was poorer or richer than the next boy in class, smarter or more stupid; athletic or awkward. I daresay many people have never moved beyond this, and react with hostility towards those who are (relatively) happy and couldn't care less about others' opinions.

Learned men (and women) have spent centuries stroking their beaux-arts beards, contemplating happiness, and trying to find the fastest route towards it.

It emerges that the truth was before our eyes all along, on daytime TV. Show love, be brashly honest (or else face the wrath of the Lie Detector) and make no apologies for being yourself. Happiness will burst in upon you.

Lives with no advantages or redeeming features discernible, crappy is as accurate a description as any. Call me judgemental, but it's hard to pretty up most of the situations and circumstances presented.

What's this nonsense about everyone having lousy lives? News to me, I'm delighted with mine.

I think you're alone in celebrating what is usually someones' guilty pleasure, and I suspect most of the enjoyment from that tv show and others like it is from the realization that although the viewers life might be something of a challenge, it's rarely as bad as the lives of the people on Jeremy Kyle.

suicide_circus · 14-05-2019 03:40PM

pgj2015 wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBFEBeOTGXc

great music video. amazing satire

Farawayhome · 14-05-2019 03:47PM

I watched a small bit of this show before, it was very informative. It showed me why Brexit happened.

Junkyard Tom · 14-05-2019 03:55PM

With shows like that I pay attention to the advertising slots. If you've ever watched a haughty cooking show check out the adverts - they're not for baking flour and fresh vegetables - no, they're for pizza and cheap holidays.

The sneering middle classes have the lumpen-proletariat served up to them while they're blissfully unaware they're being feasted upon themselves. At least the people who appear on the JK show know they're there for entertainment.

meeeeh · 14-05-2019 03:59PM

Dickens and other repredentatives of realism in literature invented characters to represent the life as accurately as they thought it was possible. (Dickens was probably more romantic than Balzac or Flauberbut but still.) Shows like Jeremy Kyle find extreme characters to misrepresent certain groups of people as more deplorable than they are. Both approaches are fiction, only one is pretending to be the truth.

donkeykong5 · 14-05-2019 04:01PM

Many who appeared on the show with drink and drug problems were paid to go into rehab . They appeared back on the show after a few months and were so thankful to be free of what ever was messing up their lives and that of their families. Also Jeremy Kyle is only the presenter. He doesn't go out seeking the people who are on the show

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