Hate crime? Really?

Blueshoe wrote: »

Did I not say that people shouldn't be going around doing such things?
Calm your outrage

I'm not outraged at all. I just find it a bit depressing that there are people like you around who find this kind of nasty mean behaviour funny. It's not.

Blueshoe wrote: »

It is mean and nasty but if I saw it happen I would probably chuckle to myself and get on with my day. Maybe I'm just a bad guy. I'm sure she will be ok. Try look on the bright side. I mean she got some publicity from it which would have raised her profile and therefore her career.
I believe she was the first small person at the met gala. Obviously not because of this but all publicity adds up.
Positive mental attitude my friend

I'm going to assume that you're a troll and not waste any time on you. Oh - btw you'd never be my friend.

I generally don't like this whole "hate crime" angle I generally despise Identity politics and the toxicity it generates it does nothing but cause more BS and grief, generally prefer to call them out as they are: Feral little scrotes who definately deserve a couple of slaps themselves for attacking other people unprovoked.

What is clear is that Ireland does not have appropriate Legislation to prosecute Hate Crimes. The hate part of the crime is usually not dealt with by the huddle at sentencing and as far as I’m aware assaulting an individual and assaulting an individual because of their sexuality would carry the same tariff and it would be rare the bias crime would have an additional tariff because of the hate/bias element.

Doing a bit of research there appears the majority of hate crimes are easily defined. Sex orientation, race, gender, xenophobia all can be defined universally and no real international argument.

This document explains it well from page 29 http://www.mitramiss.gob.es/oberaxe/ficheros/documentos/ProsecutingHateCrimes.pdf.

If you look at page 34 it describes other characteristics which they admit are not easily agreed. Now when I read the article, my initial thoughts were that it was an over reaction and perhaps diluted other hate crimes. However, According to Emily Logan, Chief Commissioner of the Irish Human Rights and Equality Commission, states Ireland has a responsibility to ensure that hate crime is not tolerated in society.

She outlined an interpretation of Hate Crime that when you read it makes the quoted article fit in.

“Hate Crime has a real-world, oppressive and damaging effect on those who fall victim to it,” she said.

Hate Crime can cause people to withdraw from society and avoid expressing their identity.

It is clear that if someone who had a genetic condition (which they could do nothing about) was ridiculed in public that made them withdraw from society, then it is a Hate Crime. Now, I believe the ‘nothing they can do about it’ I e a medical condition is the crux. This would mean that an obese person (not hormonal but from pure over eating) who was ridicules in public or beaten in public because of their weight, would not come under Hate Crime.