"Non book readers" Season 8 - Speculation Thread - Spoilers on thread from 15th Apr

is_that_so · 06-05-2019 04:33PM

Slydice wrote: »

Armoured Dragon! Calling it now!

Maybe it'll learn to swim so it can sneak up on the cardboard pirate!

PressRun · 06-05-2019 04:39PM

I also feel we are being set up to lose Jon.

Paddy Cow · 06-05-2019 05:08PM

Deleted User wrote: »

All my own work:

Jon Snow killed off next episode.

There was a theory that all the direwolves foreshadowed the gate of their masters
Aryas - made to run away, no idea where it went. Very similar to Arya's story.
Sansa- killed because Arya's ran away. Lady being an analogy for Sansa's innocence perhaps?
Robbs- murdered.
Brans - killed in season 6. I don't think it should have been killed, but it was lazy tv writing.
Richons- killed just before Richon

So, Jon Snow just gave Ghost away. Much like how he has given up the Stark piece of him to Dany. I found it quite telling.

Butalso, is he now represented by rhaegal? He has switched sides, so it would make dramaturgical sense for him to be represented by a new animal. He could be, which is why I reckon he'll be killed off in the next episode.

Gendry will sit on the Iron Throne at the end, and Arya will be a reluctant hand.

I said to friends after the last battle that Gendry is a definite winner here, having survived the classic, "Death by Sex" trope.

I can see Jon dying and the way he has turned into such a drippy "whatever you say Dany" I won't miss him but Gendry is just about suited to being a Lord, he is no King. He wouldn't last five minutes playing the game. Getting the throne is one thing, holding onto it is a lot harder.

IAMAMORON · 06-05-2019 07:20PM

Cliffhanger at the end of the next episode, it has to happen this way.

Cliffhanger = massive global show exposure and talked about on every news show across the world. Who is alive? Who will survive ? Who sits on the iron throne ? etc etc.

Loads of baby stuff. Cersei, Gilly ( I fancy the arse off her, gorgeous, Sam is a lucky bastard ) , is Danny preggers ? Hopefully the opening scene next week we see her puking when she wakes up.

On a more serious note, I think there are some serious loose ends on the old lore and mystery within the show. Bran, seven face god, the fish god, the god of the east, the lord of light etc. We need some serious mystic dream action, just for 5 minutes like. Tie in a few flashbacks there.

I am beginning to envy Euron's teleporting, its' not doing it for me anymore. I hope someone grabs one of those industrial sized crossbows and nails him to the side of King Landing. That will put a stop to his global hopping once and for all.

One last prediction, albeit I haven't a clue, the Golden Company to turn on Cersei and her to **** bricks before she is killed, but she will be surviving another episode I think.

Boooooo to the haters, your worse than Kings Landing trash.

Peatys · 07-05-2019 07:20AM

Sansa and Cersi to form an alliance to defeat Dani. Jon will die during that battle a broken man. Wall is rebuilt at the neck with Cersi queen of the south and sansa queen of the north.

Sonics2k · 07-05-2019 07:55AM

Lord Commander Mormont
"The things we love, destroy us everytime"

This is said just as Mormont is telling Jon Snow about the death of King Robert and the arrest of Ned Stark, and somewhat true in the context.

Penn · 07-05-2019 09:47AM

Cersei is defeated (likely killed by Jamie somehow)
Dany gets the throne and Jon is happy to let her have it
Everyone finds out Jon's true parentage and claim he should be king, even though he doesn't want it
Dany goes full-on Mad Queen and has Jon killed so she can stay Queen
Tyrion kills Dany, becoming the Queenslayer like Jamie was Kingslayer
Sansa ends up Queen due to being Jon's closest, oldest living relative

yourdeadwright · 07-05-2019 10:58AM

Deleted User wrote: »

All my own work:

Jon Snow killed off next episode.

There was a theory that all the direwolves foreshadowed the gate of their masters
Aryas - made to run away, no idea where it went. Very similar to Arya's story.
Sansa- killed because Arya's ran away. Lady being an analogy for Sansa's innocence perhaps?
Robbs- murdered.
Brans - killed in season 6. I don't think it should have been killed, but it was lazy tv writing.
Richons- killed just before Richon

So, Jon Snow just gave Ghost away. Much like how he has given up the Stark piece of him to Dany. I found it quite telling.

Butalso, is he now represented by rhaegal? He has switched sides, so it would make dramaturgical sense for him to be represented by a new animal. He could be, which is why I reckon he'll be killed off in the next episode.

Gendry will sit on the Iron Throne at the end, and Arya will be a reluctant hand.

I said to friends after the last battle that Gendry is a definite winner here, having survived the classic, "Death by Sex" trope.

I think you could be right ,

Sansa's = was killed for treason , same thing Sansa was later accused of,

Brans = died when Bran Stark died / turned into the 3 eyed raven ,

yourdeadwright · 07-05-2019 11:01AM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

Cliffhanger at the end of the next episode, it has to happen this way.

Cliffhanger = massive global show exposure and talked about on every news show across the world. Who is alive? Who will survive ? Who sits on the iron throne ? etc etc.

Loads of baby stuff. Cersei, Gilly ( I fancy the arse off her, gorgeous, Sam is a lucky bastard ) , is Danny preggers ? Hopefully the opening scene next week we see her puking when she wakes up.

On a more serious note, I think there are some serious loose ends on the old lore and mystery within the show. Bran, seven face god, the fish god, the god of the east, the lord of light etc. We need some serious mystic dream action, just for 5 minutes like. Tie in a few flashbacks there.

I am beginning to envy Euron's teleporting, its' not doing it for me anymore. I hope someone grabs one of those industrial sized crossbows and nails him to the side of King Landing. That will put a stop to his global hopping once and for all.

One last prediction, albeit I haven't a clue, the Golden Company to turn on Cersei and her to **** bricks before she is killed, but she will be surviving another episode I think.

Boooooo to the haters, your worse than Kings Landing trash.

Daario Naharis 100% has to be with the gold company and will help Dany,

woodchuck · 07-05-2019 11:12AM

Jaime kills Cersei in order to save thousands of innocent people from being burned alive by Dany.

Dany will discover that Jons secret is out. She’ll kill Tyrione and Varys when she realises they’re conspiring against her. She’ll also try to kill Jon, but he’ll reluctantly kill her in self-defence.

Jon will feel pressured by his supporters to take the Iron Throne, but he'll have the only remaining dragon melt the Iron Throne instead. There will be no one ruler of the 7 kingdoms anymore. Each of the 7 kingdoms will elect their own ruler.

Meanwhile, The Hound kills The Mountain, but is badly injured. Arya will kill The Hound, stabbing him in the heart this time instead of leaving him for dead.

IAMAMORON · 07-05-2019 11:39AM

There still has to be a reveal from Tyrion and Bran's fireside chat on the eve of the long night. Something either went down there or that is a massive plot hole.

I think about Sansa, she has become cute enough as she has grown. She would have learnt the hard way how to play the game of thrones. Her mother could scheme with the best of them. She is staying in the north for a reason.

"If you play the game of thrones you win or you die, there is no middle ground"

She knows Cersei a lot more than people give her credit for. Better the devil you know.

yourdeadwright · 07-05-2019 11:45AM

IAMAMORON wrote: »

There still has to be a reveal from Tyrion and Bran's fireside chat on the eve of the long night. Something either went down there or that is a massive plot hole.

Why do people seem to be making a big deal out of this ?

Tyrion said tell me your story, so im guessing Bran just told him what we all seen happen through out the years ? what's the big deal ,

Mr Crispy · 07-05-2019 12:08PM

My preferred Cersei ending would be; she escapes after the final battle with Qyburn and some Kingsguard, but is forced into exile like the Targaryens. Final scene is her dying in labour, as she gives birth to a dwarf.

Edit: Having said that, I don't actually believe she's preggers.

sky88 · 07-05-2019 03:34PM

i think sansa for the iron throne is nailed on tbh but she will rule from the north

jon im not too sure as i could see eithier sansa killing him to get the throne or he has to kill dany after she goes mad and he heads north of the wall to live his life with tormund happily ever after

arya defeats the mountain after he kills the hound and she leaves again

yourdeadwright · 07-05-2019 04:45PM

Has anyone watched the preview for next week. any thoughts

OneOfThem Stumbled · 07-05-2019 09:17PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Has anyone watched the preview for next week. any thoughts

I can't legitimately make predictions since I read the massive leak. It was accurate in relation to episode 4, I'm hoping it won't be in relation to 5 and 6 as I feel that that ending would stink.

Somewhat unrelated to the leak though, I think the lack of any battle footage in the preview is conspicuous.

is_that_so · 08-05-2019 03:23PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Has anyone watched the preview for next week. any thoughts

Eh there's a battle and Euron might get his comeuppance!

Loafing Oaf · 08-05-2019 04:10PM

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Has anyone watched the preview for next week. any thoughts

Check out the

hooded figure in the middle of all the Lannister soldiers at about 22 seconds:eek:

Mr Crispy · 08-05-2019 06:24PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Check out the
hooded figure in the middle of all the Lannister soldiers at about 22 seconds:eek:

I think that's

Jaime - he wore a similar cloak arriving in Winterfell

Loafing Oaf · 08-05-2019 06:34PM

Darch Nemesis wrote: »

I think that's
Jaime - he wore a similar cloak arriving in Winterfell

Could he be

sneaking in to the city to bump off Cersei?

Mr Crispy · 08-05-2019 06:41PM

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Could he be
sneaking in to the city to bump off Cersei?

A possibility for sure. Although,

he still thinks she's pregnant with his child (I don't think she is at all), so he may try to reason with her first

.

J Mysterio · 09-05-2019 01:11PM

Penn wrote: »

Cersei is defeated (likely killed by Jamie somehow)
Dany gets the throne and Jon is happy to let her have it
Everyone finds out Jon's true parentage and claim he should be king, even though he doesn't want it
Dany goes full-on Mad Queen and has Jon killed so she can stay Queen
Tyrion kills Dany, becoming the Queenslayer like Jamie was Kingslayer
Sansa ends up Queen due to being Jon's closest, oldest living relative

I like it

RickBlaine · 09-05-2019 07:42PM

There have been a couple of scenes this season between Tyrion and Sansa which makes me wonder if their friendship might play a larger role.

I think in her decent into madness, Dani will do something that is beyond the point of no return, which is probably killing Varys. This will cause Tyrion to jump ship and side with Jon.

Jon won't end up on the throne (either by death or abdication) and it will pass to Sansa with Tyrion as her hand. If Jon is still alive, he'll remain King in the North at Winterfell where he is most comfortable. I can't see Jon being comfortable or smart enough to get embroiled with King's Landing politics. However, we've been reminded a few times this season how smart Sansa is supposed to be. Sansa as Queen will grant the north independence.

dsmythy · 09-05-2019 07:55PM

RickBlaine wrote: »

There have been a couple of scenes this season between Tyrion and Sansa which makes me wonder if their friendship might play a larger role.

I think in her decent into madness, Dani will do something that is beyond the point of no return, which is probably killing Varys. This will cause Tyrion to jump ship and side with Jon.

Jon won't end up on the throne (either by death or abdication) and it will pass to Sansa with Tyrion as her hand. If Jon is still alive, he'll remain King in the North at Winterfell where he is most comfortable. I can't see Jon being comfortable or smart enough to get embroiled with King's Landing politics. However, we've been reminded a few times this season how smart Sansa is supposed to be. Sansa as Queen will grant the north independence.

Tyrion already suspects Varys is going to kill her. So her killing him as self defence will not necessarily make him turn.

The problem with the North having special status is why can't the rest have the same? That's the question they'd ask. You're either monarch of the seven kingdoms as they are or head of something else.

PressRun · 10-05-2019 02:39PM

Maybe dissolution of the throne altogether and everyone governs themselves? I could see Tyrion doing something like that if he were to get the job.

threeball · 10-05-2019 11:58PM

The Mountain and hound going head to head is a certainty. Im pretty sure the mountain will try to use fire somehow, the hound says I'm not afraid of that sh1t anymore and kills him.

We're probably heading for something off the wall like Cersei defeating Dany and capturing her alive. Cersei has a habit of using her enemies weapons against them, fire won't work so she'll stab her in the heart with Dragonglass turning Dany into the Night Queen. That whole story ended too easily and the Night king was impervious to fire like Dany.

Rjd2 · 11-05-2019 10:54PM

Guesswork..

Cersai has been wonderful from day 1 even when the show has dropped in quality, the actress has always brought it. However no reason for her to survive, Jamie does the deed I assume. The Mountain also dies by the hand of his brother and an assist from Ayra.

Euron? Dies also, don't know who ends his life but just want him gone. Assume its Yara or the dragon comes back from the dead (yuck)

Qyburn possibly the only member of Cersai's inner circle who is tricky to predict, no reason for him to survive, but not sure who kills him.

Ferajacka · 11-05-2019 11:29PM

Arya mercy kills the Hound after an epic battle with mountain leaves him for dead.
Arya uses the face to kill cersai but is killed by Jamie trying to save cersai.

MisterAnarchy · 12-05-2019 12:08AM

Ferajacka wrote: »

Arya mercy kills the Hound after an epic battle with mountain leaves him for dead.
Arya uses the face to kill cersai but is killed by Jamie trying to save cersai.

Would it not be easier and more practical to just have Arya kill Cersei using her Faceless person skills instead of Daenarys waging a moronic all out war on Cerseis forces ?

Rjd2 · 12-05-2019 12:17AM

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Would it not be easier and more practical to just have Arya kill Cersei using her Faceless person skills instead of Daenarys waging a moronic all out war on Cerseis forces ?

Dany is not that bright tbh. She never needed to be as she had dragons and amazing armies, but she would be lost without her advisers who bar latecomer Tyrion are dead.

Its quite believable that she right now would seek to settle her issues with Cersai the most brutal way possible.

Arya maybe taking Qyburns face to get close to Cersai would be cool, but a show which has been very much about fan service probably won't want to swerve us from the inevitable of Jamie killing his sister.

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