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  • #7502
    McCrack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,017 ✭✭✭McCrack


    mickdw wrote: »
    I don't think you would have anything like a similar problem to if you had printed a tax disc or used a disc off another car.
    My thinking is that you have the defence of honest mistake. You bought the car taxed and didn't look any further into it.
    This is a much different situation to where someone knowingly creates a false disc.
    Unless they write to new owners and specifically tell them that any tax on the car is invalid, I think you would have reasonable defence.
    If they do write out to new owners, well yes, there is no defence for running with taxi tax.

    Good luck trying that on with my local District Court Judge


  • #7503
    daRobot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,378 ✭✭✭daRobot


    mickdw wrote: »
    I don't think you would have anything like a similar problem to if you had printed a tax disc or used a disc off another car.
    My thinking is that you have the defence of honest mistake. You bought the car taxed and didn't look any further into it.
    This is a much different situation to where someone knowingly creates a false disc.
    Unless they write to new owners and specifically tell them that any tax on the car is invalid, I think you would have reasonable defence.
    If they do write out to new owners, well yes, there is no defence for running with taxi tax.

    You'll get the standard tax renewal letter when you buy it.

    It's just not worth ending up in court over.


  • #7504
    jayo26
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,779 ✭✭✭✭jayo26


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    Worst case is they seize the car if they deem the car to be out of tax for more than two months, which would be applicable from when the car transferred to private ownership. No tax isn't a penalty point offence, or at least it isn't listed on the RSA website.

    I know a fair few people who've driven on PSV tax from the previous owner, for a couple of months anyways. Dunno if I'd chance a year though.

    In my younger days I would of without shadow of a doubt ha. Price of tax isn't as much a problem now so no reason to.


  • #7505
    NIMAN
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,513 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Anyone fancy a Roller!

    https://www.gumtree.com/p/rolls-royce/choice-of-2-1978-rolls-royce-silver-shadow-ii-/1334234826


  • #7506
    KevRossi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Years NCT on this 2.7D Jag. Very nice colour combo and the alloys suit it. Aggressive without being tacky.

    €4,550

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2007-jaguar-xj6-2-7tdv6-sport-new-nct-low-milage/21072855

    ZGE4ZjhiOWE3ZjNjMWE5ODc4NjAwYzA1ZGIyNDgxM2NOsiUDfPeFqE2ehTl4efysaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMTg1OTc0NjN8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    MWE4N2ZmMzYwMmQwNmQwZWQ3NzliNDgyYzY5Nzc0OWTcwOjSW4tZLsfb0zI4UCihaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMTg1OTc0NjV8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg


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  • #7507
    mickdw
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,914 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Surely nice examples of the last of the traditional shape xj will become valuable classics in time.
    Early versions of the newer car are already starting to become a little tacky.
    I'm not saying the diesel one is something to buy and store but a nice high end petrol one would be a nice car to keep.


  • #7508
    Duke O Smiley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/lexus-ls430-new-nct-03-20-fully-loaded/21733596

    ZDBkNjJmZjIxMzI5NTAxMDc5NWNhYWQ3MDVhODkwYmWLAZOUDqgapY6CNEXtmtFLaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMjM1ODMwMzl8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    Very good spec LS430 with fresh test for €3500


  • #7509
    ongarite
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,703 ✭✭✭ongarite


    That’s a very nice LS. Good colour and spec.


  • #7510
    W123-80's
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭W123-80's


    '98 S320
    LPG
    NCT July '19
    Tad over budget for bangernomics
    Looks nice

    Asking €2,500

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-s-class-1998-lpg-converted/21628283


  • #7511
    KevRossi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Looks nice, but the very short NCT and the low price might suggest that it has been to an NCT and has something expensive wrong with it.
    Rear suspension looks to be hanging down a bit too.

    Worth a call.


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  • #7512
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Duke O Smiley wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/lexus-ls430-new-nct-03-20-fully-loaded/21733596

    ZDBkNjJmZjIxMzI5NTAxMDc5NWNhYWQ3MDVhODkwYmWLAZOUDqgapY6CNEXtmtFLaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMjM1ODMwMzl8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    Very good spec LS430 with fresh test for €3500

    No air suspension. It's such a nicer cruiser on air.
    Hold out for a face-lift version, looks better and has a much better gearbox


  • #7513
    Truckermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    mullingar wrote: »
    No air suspension. It's such a nicer cruiser on air.
    Hold out for a face-lift version, looks better and has a much better gearbox

    How do you differentiate I was going to PM you later actually....:p


  • #7514
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    W123-80's wrote: »
    '98 S320
    LPG
    NCT July '19
    Tad over budget for bangernomics
    Looks nice

    Asking €2,500

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/mercedes-benz-s-class-1998-lpg-converted/21628283

    That’s got Russian drug dealer all over it. I think it’s class!


  • #7515
    MEGA BRO WOLF 5000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    mullingar wrote: »
    No air suspension. It's such a nicer cruiser on air.
    Hold out for a face-lift version, looks better and has a much better gearbox

    “Mark Levinson sound system”

    Worth an extra 3k I hear :pac:


  • #7516
    h3000
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭h3000


    Hunky Monster wrote: »
    “Mark Levinson sound system”

    Worth an extra 3k I hear :pac:

    It adds 150bhp too. It’s nearly impossible to catch up with one if you want to get a better look.

    0118 999 881 999 119 725 3



  • #7517
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Truckermal wrote: »
    How do you differentiate I was going to PM you later actually....:p

    It's missing the 2x switches for the air suspension.


  • #7518
    Truckermal
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,043 ✭✭✭Truckermal


    mullingar wrote: »
    It's missing the 2x switches for the air suspension.

    Ah right I thought it was standard from the first Gen LS... Not too many of them about either.


  • #7519
    Old diesel
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,450 ✭✭✭Old diesel


    How much of a difference does the air suspension really make?????.

    The difference between LS400 with no air and an LS430 with it didn't seem that significant in comfort terms.

    Mind you that was going from a 400 on 16s (as far as I remember) to a 430 on 18 inch wheels.

    Did Lexus make a mess of the 430 on springs or something.....


  • #7520
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Old diesel wrote: »
    How much of a difference does the air suspension really make?????.

    The difference between LS400 with no air and an LS430 with it didn't seem that significant in comfort terms.

    Mind you that was going from a 400 on 16s (as far as I remember) to a 430 on 18 inch wheels.

    Did Lexus make a mess of the 430 on springs or something.....

    Going on smooth roads there would be a bit of difference, but it's on the rougher roads/pot holes/speed bumps is where air suspension shines.

    Just flicking one switch turns the floaty barge to a much firmer drive. The other switch raises the cars height if you are going down a very bumpy road.

    The car also sinks about 1" when driving over 50mph, apparently it reduces drag.

    In terms of reliability, the biggest weakness with the air suspension is the rear ride height sensors, but a pair of them are €30 on aliexpress.


  • #7521
    Eric Cartman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,242 ✭✭✭✭Eric Cartman


    Old diesel wrote: »
    How much of a difference does the air suspension really make?????.

    The difference between LS400 with no air and an LS430 with it didn't seem that significant in comfort terms.

    Mind you that was going from a 400 on 16s (as far as I remember) to a 430 on 18 inch wheels.

    Did Lexus make a mess of the 430 on springs or something.....

    I will never drive a daily on not air ever again, it is an absolute dream especially on irish country roads.


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  • #7522
    crazyjim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 89 ✭✭crazyjim


    Duke O Smiley wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/lexus-ls430-new-nct-03-20-fully-loaded/21733596

    ZDBkNjJmZjIxMzI5NTAxMDc5NWNhYWQ3MDVhODkwYmWLAZOUDqgapY6CNEXtmtFLaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMjM1ODMwMzl8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    Very good spec LS430 with fresh test for €3500

    The ad now mentions the suspension. Must be a boardsie
    Importantly it is NOT on air suspension - this is a know weakness

    To me It's an 18 year old barge with 144k miles on it. Unless an enthusiast wants it, it's a €2k car.


  • #7523
    mullingar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,338 ✭✭✭mullingar


    Seller now says the ls430 is known for the weakness of its suspension? I'd say it's the most reliable air suspension fitted on any car.

    It's those level sensors that sieze up and these sensors and are €300 each from Lexus.

    Or what I did, €34 delivered for a pair on my Ls430

    https://m.aliexpress.com/item/32922372648.html


  • #7524
    Marlow
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,531 ✭✭✭✭Marlow


    Eric Cartman wrote: »
    I will never drive a daily on not air ever again, it is an absolute dream especially on irish country roads.

    Ah here. I know a few cars (that I own) that i could not imagine performing on Air suspension.

    Having said that .. for a comfy cruise .. it is indeed something that makes a difference. My Allroad and Disco 3 certainly are worth the air suspension.

    Even the 525d i used to own (rear only). But you never want to get to the point of it going dodgy and not having a mechanic that knows how to fix it.

    The issue is NEVER the air suspension. It is the clueless mechanics trying to solve issues when they crop up. Beyond that it is brilliant.

    /M


  • #7525
    jayo26
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,779 ✭✭✭✭jayo26


    Marlow wrote: »
    Ah here. I know a few cars (that I own) that i could not imagine performing on Air suspension.

    Having said that .. for a comfy cruise .. it is indeed something that makes a difference. My Allroad and Disco 3 certainly are worth the air suspension.

    Even the 525d i used to own (rear only). But you never want to get to the point of it going dodgy and not having a mechanic that knows how to fix it.

    The issue is NEVER the air suspension. It is the clueless mechanics trying to solve issues when they crop up. Beyond that it is brilliant.

    /M

    To be fair you dont want a BMW with air suspension especially the f11 it's a disaster.


  • #7526
    Duke O Smiley
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,086 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/bentley-8-nct-tax-px-/19665677

    OTZlYTY5ZmYwYzM4MjQ3ZmZjNWIyZThiNTQwM2RkNzMNo8Uraos6P_iZgKfmZZBaaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMjIwOTM5MzR8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    1986 Bentley 8, years test, classic tax, low miles and alleged history - €5k

    Colour is a bit gaudy but I think it could be smartened up if the headlight surrounds were colour-coded or re-chromed, and a nice set of period plates. Much want!


  • #7527
    W123-80's
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,109 ✭✭✭W123-80's


    Duke O Smiley wrote: »
    https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/bentley-8-nct-tax-px-/19665677

    OTZlYTY5ZmYwYzM4MjQ3ZmZjNWIyZThiNTQwM2RkNzMNo8Uraos6P_iZgKfmZZBaaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMjIwOTM5MzR8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    1986 Bentley 8, years test, classic tax, low miles and alleged history - €5k

    Colour is a bit gaudy but I think it could be smartened up if the headlight surrounds were colour-coded or re-chromed, and a nice set of period plates. Much want!

    I borrowed one from a family friend for my wedding 6 years ago. I had to collect it from an underground hotel car park where it lives. Owner lives abroad.
    They are not built for underground carparks with tight spaces and even tighter turns when coming up the levels.:pac:
    It was an experience driving it!
    On a side note I have great pics from outside the church after we got married. It wouldn't start so it had to be pushed by a rake of lads out of the church car park, jump leads sourced in someone's boot and jumped off my brothers Avensis!
    Cool car and I'd love one!


  • #7528
    KevRossi
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,586 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    That Bentley was €7,750 6 weeks ago. Great price at €5K if it checks out.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109695622


  • #7529
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,596 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    GDY151


    Would love to know if the Bentley could be maintained relatively cheaply or are you in to mega money to keep the basics ticking over.

    If you could keep it running I could only see the price going up.


  • #7530
    Cyrus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,623 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    KevRossi wrote: »
    That Bentley was €7,750 6 weeks ago. Great price at €5K if it checks out.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=109695622

    Value only going one way the seller says

    Indeed ....


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  • #7531
    Odyssey 2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,051 ✭✭✭✭Odyssey 2005


    Cyrus wrote: »
    Value only going one way the seller says

    Indeed ....

    Paddy ;).


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