Magic Mushrooms for everybody in the audience

Feisar · 09-05-2019 12:01PM

Is DMT like mushrooms?

Had a bag of them in The 'Dam a few years ago. Metal stuff. Can't say it was that enjoyable:

Cig I was smoking got longer as I smoked it
People about 50 yards away sounded like they were in my ear
The some of the buildings in Amsterdam are slopped outwards, this got exaggerated. I thought there were hookers in windows directly above my head.
Back in the hotel room staring at the ceiling an Indian Goddess type appeared in green on the ceiling and started circling about to be replaced by a tribal type tattoo face doing the rounds.
Fire started coming down the walls. I knew it wasn't but it took a lot of effort for it to disappear, back to looking at the faces. Flames returned but I ignored them.

It was an experience but I can't say it was fun!

Deebles McBeebles · 09-05-2019 12:09PM

I remember taking mushies on a lovely sunny summer day years ago. My mate hid (literally thought he was hiding from someone who was not there) in the hot press for an hour listening to Tool while I sat outside looking at the clouds which now looked like the clouds from Super Mario. The clouds started moving toward me but not in a scary way. Got bored with that eventually and went inside to look at my hands and have multiple eureka moments. A day well spent.

Feisar · 09-05-2019 12:13PM

Deebles McBeebles wrote: »

I remember taking mushies on a lovely sunny summer day years ago. My mate hid (literally thought he was hiding from someone who was not there) in the hot press for an hour listening to Tool while I sat outside looking at the clouds which now looked like the clouds from Super Mario. The clouds started moving toward me but not in a scary way. Got bored with that eventually and went inside to look at my hands and have multiple eureka moments. A day well spent.

Ah Tool, back in the day!

freshpopcorn · 09-05-2019 12:25PM

When basic mushrooms were big back in the mid 2000's. I convinced my grandmother my mother was giving them to her.
She then refused to eat mushrooms and told everybody that my mother was giving her magic mushrooms.

Deebles McBeebles · 09-05-2019 12:27PM

Feisar wrote: »

Ah Tool, back in the day!

Great stuff. They have a new album out apparently, haven't checked it out yet.

The day was finished off with a bit of Yes and King Crimson to help with the comedown!

kg703 · 09-05-2019 12:50PM

magic_murph wrote: »

Like with any decriminalization or legalization the real success will come with wide spread education - people will need to know what to take, how much and when to take it. With that people will be best informed to reduce the risk etc

This is it 100% people fear drugs because they have no education about them. People see scary news stories ‘someone jumped out a window’ ‘15 year old dies from first time ecstasy use’ etc and it’s terrifying. Drugs are for junkies.

As someone who has definitely not dipped into the world of psychedelics and definitely not microdosed I definitely do not think they are wonderful and have great potential. The problem is the mentality here with drugs could cross over from alcohol - get as much as you can into you and get off your head.

Proper education, drug testing and to an extent with some drugs, decriminalisation, would really benefit not just this country but many others. It would at least possibly stop young naive kids from overdosing on unknown substances they got off their mates.

It’s mad that I am an thirty something adult with a good job and I could technically be arresting for possessing certain natural plants.

But I can go and smoke a stick of tar, nicotine and rocket fuel standing in a group of children. A lot of people wouldn’t even bat and eyelid.

09-05-2019 12:52PM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

One particularly weird salvia trip I spent some time as the dangly bit you pull on a zip, it was an experience to say the least!

Thats hilarious,
I thought I was a train before (like thomas the tank engine) and I was speeding down the rack through tunnels etc.
Laughed my hole off for about 20mins after

:D

-one of my mates thought he was a rug !

magic_murph · 09-05-2019 01:07PM

I'm sure micro-dosing would also benefit people coming off other drugs or even with hardened alcoholics - until we get some decent long term studies complete there will be a lot of speculation.

I've heard good things of the psychedelic truffles - same trip experience as mushrooms but potentially not as strong.

Get Real · 09-05-2019 01:21PM

I am not , nor ever was a user of magic mushrooms, nor will I ever be. However I support them being decriminalized or legalised fully.

Ironically, I don't think this will be the case in Ireland for this particular substance. Given that they were legal until quite recently (2006), govt wouldn't want to be seen to be "rowing back"

The law was a reaction to the tragic death of Colm Hodkinson, a Dubliner who jumped off a balcony in 2005.

I am opposed to banning substances based on headlines such as this (for example, alcohol contributes to many deaths and/or life changing injuries)

However, his parents were behind a campaign for legislation, and my heart breaks for them, and I can also see their viewpoint (whether I agree with it or not)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.irishtimes.com/news/man-jumped-from-balcony-after-taking-magic-mushrooms-1.788205

JohnnyFlash · 09-05-2019 02:39PM

How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us about Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence Is a great book by a Harvard professor about how psychedelics were the subject of fascinating research in the 50’s and 60’s by elite American universities, how they fell out of favour as a result of their association with the counter culture movement, and how they are now the subject of huge amounts of new research- especially in their treatment of depression, anxiety, and alcoholism (where it appears to have astonishing and immediate benefits)

The writer took mushrooms himself and describes his experiences, including one that was profoundly spiritual and involved the complete death and rebirth of the ego. Highly recommended.

magic_murph · 09-05-2019 02:48PM

Its prob going to be the same as weed - used widely as a recreational drug but also has many health benefit (some yet to be proven)
Mushrooms / truffles may be the same - used as a recreational drug before the try medical benefits are know.

the landscape both recreational and medicinal will be a whole lot different in 10-15 years

JohnnyFlash · 09-05-2019 03:18PM

magic_murph wrote: »

Its prob going to be the same as weed - used widely as a recreational drug but also has many health benefit (some yet to be proven)
Mushrooms / truffles may be the same - used as a recreational drug before the try medical benefits are know.

the landscape both recreational and medicinal will be a whole lot different in 10-15 years

The book also mentions weed. Smoking weed has absolutely no health benefits that can’t be obtained in a measured and accurate dose from pharmaceutical grade cannabis. Shrooms are different in that the trip or high from it is the very essence of the experience. There’s a growing body of thinking that suggests the legalisation or cannabis in America was a very idea, and has lead to a surge in young men reporting life changing cases of psychosis.

s7ryf3925pivug · 09-05-2019 03:19PM

https://www.nature.com/news/no-link-found-between-psychedelics-and-psychosis-1.16968

Interesting study showing no relationship between lifetime psychedelic drug use and lifetime development of psychiatric illness. An important distinction is that it presents no information about the effect on people with mental illness or those who will go on to develop it. I'd be surprised if it is not hazardous for someone at risk of psychosis. Don't think you can know you're not in the 2% of people who will develop it.

Gotta say that 2% of people experiencing psychosis at some point is alarmingly high. Not surprising though if you think about the sort of mental **** a lot of people believe without any apparent diagnoses.

...Weed is definitely not safe for people with mental illness and is the single biggest cause of readmissions to psychiatric wards.

JupiterKid · 09-05-2019 05:58PM

I’ve no problem with mushies being legal in Colorado or anywhere else for that matter. All recreational drugs should be legalized and regulated. The so called “war on drugs” has failed utterly and will never be won.

That said, psychedelics are not for everyone. You have to be calm and in the right frame of mind when taking them, preferably with friends who have experience of them and are also taking them with you. I took LSD a few times in my college days and had mild and more intense trips, a completely amazing “high” experience but also a bad one which had me on edge for hours and hours. One thing about tripping is that it does seem to open your mind up to new insights and dimensions that are not apparent otherwise. It’s very hard to really describe.

Took mushrooms twice and enjoyed the experience but it’s not for everyone.

fortwilliam · 09-05-2019 06:50PM

I live in Colorado at the moment where cannabis is also legal, regardless of legal/illegal, the amount of stoners over here is unreal...
Huge mental illness is seen on the street every day often linked with homelessness.

Not saying one is the cause of the other, but it is worrying to see.

Magic Mushrooms for everybody in the audience

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