Peter Mcverrys support for syringe criminal.

Sonny noggs · 08-05-2019 07:39PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

No.

Even people while in prison can do good for the world. The can help the guy next to them make it through they can support each other.

Do we want the guy next to him making it through?

DublinWriter · 08-05-2019 07:40PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Can’t stand the man and his self righteous attitude.

I'm an Atheist and a hater of the Catholic Church.

McVerry is anything but self-righteous. I've met the guy several times and provided his charity with dozens of re-conditioned PCs from the corporate sector in the late 90's.

Even in the corporate sector, I've never met anyone who drives himself that hard, to the point of tapping-out through overwork when driving around the country and almost killing himself through exhaustion.

At a critical-mass stage when building a charitable enterprise, one person can't do it all and a corporate structure needs to be established. It's a logical progression. Same with Christina Noble and her charity.

It's easy to be a hurler on the ditch. Easy to fling **** at a wall via the Internet. We get it. You're out-raged. Boo-hoo. On social media, everyone hears you scream.

McVerry has done more to help damaged people in this country that you'll ever realise. What have you done? Nothing.

Galwayguy35 · 08-05-2019 07:41PM

KikiLaRue wrote: »

Banks.

Banks have cost you a LOT more over your lifetime than petty criminals have. That is a fact. Your children and grandchildren will be paying for the bailout we gave the banks.

We need banks, they are a vital part of a functioning economy.

Junkies who assault innocent people on the other hand we can easily do without.

KikiLaRue · 08-05-2019 07:44PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

We need banks, they are a vital part of a functioning economy.

Junkies who assault innocent people on the other hand we can easily do without.

Again I'll ask, what's your solution, the purge?

If you want a society with fewer addicts, investing in prevention and support is the way to go.

Subcomandante Marcos · 08-05-2019 07:45PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

We need banks, they are a vital part of a functioning economy.

Junkies who assault innocent people on the other hand we can easily do without.

We didn't need to pay €15m per day in interest alone to "save" banks that defrauded the state, but you're outraged that a charity provides services to homeless people and pays competant qualified professionals a competitive wage to do so at a fraction (0.54%) of that cost per day?

You're anger is misplaced.

Dyr · 08-05-2019 07:46PM

I'm old enough to remember McVerry back when he started his career as a professional saint in my neck of the woods

If he was drowning I'd throw him an umbrella.

08-05-2019 07:48PM

SouthDublin6w wrote: »

Im telling you right now neither organisation pays peoples fines, and if you believe they do is madness. :pac::pac::pac:

And I'm telling you that they do. They have for years & they continue to do so.
I have seen it many times.

Galwayguy35 · 08-05-2019 07:54PM

Subcomandante Marcos wrote: »

We didn't need to pay €15m per day in interest alone to "save" banks that defrauded the state, but you're outraged that a charity provides services to homeless people and pays competant qualified professionals a competitive wage to do so at a fraction (0.54%) of that cost per day?

You're anger is misplaced.

I never said I wasn't angry about the way the banks carried on back in the boom days or the fact that we got saddled with debt from the bailout but my point still stands.

There is no homeless crisis, it's no better or worse than other countries.

There will always be rough sleepers and there would be a lot less so called homeless if these people living for free in hotels weren't playing the system.

Galwayguy35 · 08-05-2019 07:56PM

KikiLaRue wrote: »

Read back the thread for some examples of people overcoming addiction and completely changing their lives. People can and do change.

Some might but I'd bet the house this fella won't.

ILoveYourVibes · 08-05-2019 07:58PM

Sonny noggs wrote: »

Do we want the guy next to him making it through?

YES! I SAY YES!

Sonny noggs · 08-05-2019 07:59PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

YES! I SAY YES!

Why, so he can mug you or burglarise your house?

KikiLaRue · 08-05-2019 08:00PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Some might but I'd bet the house this fella won't.

So, what's your solution?

Sonny noggs · 08-05-2019 08:02PM

KikiLaRue wrote: »

So, what's your solution?

Russian roulette but with an overdose of heroine instead of a bullet.

Mad_maxx · 08-05-2019 08:05PM

KikiLaRue wrote: »

So what's your solution - the purge?

More prisons and tougher policing

dermo888 · 08-05-2019 08:05PM

KikiLaRue wrote: »

You seem like a very angry person.

'Angry'

Sorry, its time these people were dealt with properly. We need a Secret police in Ireland to round up these scumbags, and give them free flights 1970's Argentine style.That is AFTER they've had all the nice lovely heroin to keep them tranquillised, preferably on a permanent basis.

Thats the solution Ireland and Dublin needs, and its very final.

Smash All Skangers, Make Ireland Great Again.

08-05-2019 08:07PM

Someone just said Make Ireland Great Again.

Let us pause for a moment's silence.

Mad_maxx · 08-05-2019 08:07PM

ILoveYourVibes wrote: »

I think we do have to invest in people.

Schools in impoverished areas have zero space zero facilities for sports etc. They are so cramped. (I know I went to one zero space for playing you have to stay indoors all the time)

My mother in law is a SNA in a deis school, the kids want for nothing but despite having play stations at home, come to school hungry and dirty, parents never want to contribute a fig for events either

DublinWriter · 08-05-2019 08:10PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

There will always be rough sleepers and there would be a lot less so called homeless if these people living for free in hotels weren't playing the system.

Yeah, try it with three kids sometime. It's a hoot. No cooking facilities.

The sad thing is you think that they are playing the system? But the system is actually playing you.

In truth, you're a least three pay-cheques away from being one of them.

You place yourself apart because you consider yourself a contributor, a tax-payer. Just like Liam Neeson, you've got special-skills.

I don't argue this fact, but you need to consider what happens when your situation changes, either through sickness or redundancy, specifically when those special-skills just aren't in demand anymore.

Galwayguy35 · 08-05-2019 08:22PM

DublinWriter wrote: »

Yeah, try it with three kids sometime. It's a hoot. No cooking facilities.

The sad thing is you think that they are playing the system? But the system is actually playing you.

In truth, you're a least three pay-cheques away from being one of them.

You place yourself apart because you consider yourself a contributor, a tax-payer. Just like Liam Neeson, you've got special-skills.

I don't argue this fact, but you need to consider what happens when your situation changes, either through sickness or redundancy, specifically when those special-skills just aren't in demand anymore.

It was Connor Skeehan that was saying quite a few of them are playing the system so I'm not just pulling that statement out of the sky.

As for myself I've worked at everything from labourer to painter and only took out a mortgage that I knew I would be able to pay back, the work is there if people are prepared to do it to pay the bills and that's the kind of man I am.

08-05-2019 08:25PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

As for myself I've worked at everything from labourer to painter and only took out a mortgage that I knew I would be able to pay back, the work is there if people are prepared to do it to pay the bills and that's the kind of man I am.

This is not going to be a popular statement, yikes, but one of the greatest tragedies since the Enlightenment is that its the people with the least who attack people with the least.

The middle classes are small in number but know how to stick up for one another. If the poorest people in society did that, the world would be a vastly different place.

It's nothing short of a tragedy.

KikiLaRue · 08-05-2019 08:33PM

Mad_maxx wrote: »

More prisons and tougher policing

Since this is the only reasonable solution suggested on that side of the debate, I'll address it (not even going to comment on people literally suggesting the death penalty for petty criminals)

I'm fine with more prisons and tougher policing, but there are two things to consider with them - they both only help after the fact and they don't solve the underlying issues.

As a reasonable centrist approach, I'd be happy with longer sentencing and tougher policing, but only if combined with evidence-based programmes to reduce reoffending.

Otherwise you're just putting a plaster on a gaping wound.

pinkyeye · 08-05-2019 08:34PM

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

At least a 10 year mandatory sentence for anyone who threatens someone with a syringe full of their blood.

Absolute pond life offers nothing to anyone in society.

Actually yes, we should execute vermin like this.

Get a grip for gods sake!

08-05-2019 08:34PM

KikiLaRue wrote: »

Otherwise your just putting a plaster on a gaping wound.

or making it worse - these issues have intergenerational consequences too. Gunshot wound to the foot comes to mind.

SouthDublin6w · 08-05-2019 08:37PM

Complete despair.

Yer Da sells Avon · 08-05-2019 08:49PM

dermo888 wrote: »

Thats the solution Ireland and Dublin needs, and its very final.

Careful now, Adolf.

SouthDublin6w · 08-05-2019 08:55PM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

Careful now, Adolf.

Heinrich and Josef are here too.

Faugheen · 08-05-2019 09:00PM

tayto lover wrote: »

Well as a priest he shouldn’t even get near that amount.
He’s either one or the other in my book, priest or businessman.

Peter McVerry isn’t the CEO of the Peter McVerry Trust.

Some good research there. All to have a go I suppose.

SouthDublin6w · 08-05-2019 09:03PM

Faugheen wrote: »

Peter McVerry isn’t the CEO of the Peter McVerry Trust.

Some good research there. All to have a go I suppose.

I pointed this out a few pages ago, I actually named the CEO but people still think he's raking it in.

08-05-2019 09:10PM

SouthDublin6w wrote: »

I pointed this out a few pages ago, I actually named the CEO but people still think he's raking it in.

pretty sure I remember reading he lives in a house with other priests, and has no possessions outside of his room.

It's probably not possible to find someone so opposite to some money-grabbing stereotype. I doubt any money has so much as rested in his account.

pinkyeye · 08-05-2019 09:16PM

weldoninhio wrote: »

I've always paid taxes and always will. Before the banks allegedly robbed me and after. I haven't noticed a big drop in my wages due to "bank tax".

Then you haven't been taking close enough notice.

Peter Mcverrys support for syringe criminal.

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