Peter Mcverrys support for syringe criminal.

Wheeliebin30

https://www.thejournal.ie/damien-reilly-courts-syringe-robbery-4623994-May2019/

“A MAN WHO threatened to stab a woman with a syringe needle during a robbery has been jailed for three years”


“The defence also presented a letter from Fr Peter McVerry saying that Reilly was stable and doing well in his drug rehabilitation”



Peter Mcverry in my eyes is a hypocrite who loves the limelight.

Giving a letter in court to support a scumbag who held up a women with a syringe.

The man had 17 previous convictions.

I’ve heard he also pays fines out of charity money for low life’s.

Can’t stand the man and his self righteous attitude.

KikiLaRue

In a fairly long article, this is the only reference to Peter McVery

The defence also presented a letter from Fr Peter McVerry saying that Reilly was stable and doing well in his drug rehabilitation.

It's a factual statement about how the man is getting on in rehab, it doesn't say he's a good guy or to go easy on him.

Wheeliebin30

KikiLaRue wrote: »

In a fairly long article, this is the only reference to Peter McVery



It's a factual statement about how the man is getting on in rehab, it doesn't say he's a good guy or to go easy on him.

Bolox to that.

17 convictions.

Yeah rehab is doing great for him alright.

Sick of criminals been been pussy footed around yet the victims are the ones who suffer.

KikiLaRue

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Bolox to that.

17 convictions.

Yeah rehab is doing great for him alright.

Sick of criminals been been pussy footed around yet the victims are the ones who suffer.

You seem like a very angry person.

Wheeliebin30

KikiLaRue wrote: »

You seem like a very angry person.

Yep that I am.

At the legal system and scumbags who bring terror on innocent people.

weldoninhio

KikiLaRue wrote: »

In a fairly long article, this is the only reference to Peter McVery



It's a factual statement about how the man is getting on in rehab, it doesn't say he's a good guy or to go easy on him.

Is Peter McVerry a qualified psychiatrist/drugs counsellor/rehab counsellor?? i thought he was retired??

Dravokivich

But in this instance they've been jailed, as opposed to receiving a suspended sentence. Or did I miss something?

KikiLaRue

Dravokivich wrote: »

But in this instance they've been jailed, as opposed to receiving a suspended sentence. Or did I miss something?

He got five years with two suspended.

I've seen middle class men get four years for rape, so for an attempted robbery this seems reasonable.

I'm glad the guy is in rehab, it's better for him and it's better for society.

Wheeliebin30

KikiLaRue wrote: »

He got five years with two suspended.

I've seen middle class men get four years for rape, so for an attempted robbery this seems reasonable.

I'm glad the guy is in rehab, it's better for him and it's better for society.

3 years with two suspended for holding a syringe to someone is reasonable?


Ahhhh I’m so glad the poor lad is doing ok now after his 17 convictions.

Who cares about the victim, it’s all about the poor lad ay.

Wheeliebin30

Dravokivich wrote: »

But in this instance they've been jailed, as opposed to receiving a suspended sentence. Or did I miss something?

Yes you are.

The whole point of Peter McVerry sending a letter to support this scumbag in court.

KikiLaRue

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

3 years with two suspended for holding a syringe to someone is reasonable?


Ahhhh I’m so glad the poor lad is doing ok now after his 17 convictions.

Who cares about the victim, it’s all about the poor lad ay.

Of course people care about the victim, it's very upsetting to get mugged. I hope they have recovered from the ordeal.

You should be glad he's doing well, if he stays clean and sober he is much less of a threat to society when he gets out.

If you could take your emotions out of the situation, you'd see that.

Wheeliebin30

KikiLaRue wrote: »

Of course people care about the victim, it's very upsetting to get mugged. I hope they have recovered from the ordeal.

You should be glad he's doing well, if he stays clean and sober he is much less of a threat to society when he gets out.

If you could take your emotions out of the situation, you'd see that.

Nah I’d rather he rots it be honest.

Edgware

What would Jesus have done?
Remember him. Going around changing water into wine, knocking around with a prostitute and a group of sandal wearing hippies

Deebles McBeebles

Edgware wrote: »

What would Jesus have done?

Turned the syringe into flowers probably.

El_Bee

KikiLaRue wrote: »

You seem like a very angry person.

Not an argument.

KikiLaRue

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Nah I’d rather he rots it be honest.

Yes, I can see that, and that's an emotional response rather than a logical one. We know that he will be released in 2-3 years, so for the benefit of the community he lives in at that point, we should very much hope he stays clean.

touts

According to their accounts the "Fr Peter McVerry Trust" spend over 70% of their income on wages and salaries for their staff and employ over 300 people. If Fr Peter trusts this lad so much maybe he should give him a job in the office beside him.

KikiLaRue

KikiLaRue wrote: »

Yes, I can see that, and that's an emotional response rather than a logical one. We know that he will be released in 2-3 years, so for the benefit of the community he lives in at that point, we should very much hope he stays clean.

The prisoner in this case is apparently 36. Given his long relationship with drugs, if he continues on that path, he might only have a life expectancy of about 40. That's an OAP in heroin-addict years.

I hope that doesn't happen, I hope he recovers and gets his life back. But being practical about it, well heroin addicts start to die off around that age.

El_Bee

17 previous convictions, that means Judges have failed in their duty of care to protect society from this guy. Imagine if you went into hospital for an operation only to find the doctor assigned to you had messed up the procedure 17 previous times, it couldn't possibly happen right? The very idea is insane, yet letting criminals walk the street with double digit (sometimes triple) convictions is fine for some reason.

KikiLaRue

El_Bee wrote: »

Not an argument.

It wasn't intended as one, more of an observation really.

justincasey

touts wrote: »

According to their accounts the "Fr Peter McVerry Trust" spend over 70% of their income on wages and salaries for their staff and employ over 300 people. If Fr Peter trusts this lad so much maybe he should give him a job in the office beside him.

It so happens that a lot of people in recovery do go and work for the mc verry trust having gone through there services at some time of there life So there

El_Bee

KikiLaRue wrote: »

It wasn't intended as one, more of an observation really.

It was clearly intended to handwave his point with "u mad?".

KikiLaRue

El_Bee wrote: »

It was clearly intended to handwave his point with "u mad?".

Yup, I've made it clear several times on the thread that I think the OP should try to look at things like this rationally rather than emotionally.

Turbohymac

Sending him to jail is fine. But how about the 80 to 100k per year of taxpayers money to keep him there with all the frills of a 5 star hotel...and then back out again to re offend.. way past time to change this system of failure and high cost to the taxpayers..make criminals work and pay their way through jail... bet it would cut down on the repeat offenders

El_Bee

KikiLaRue wrote: »

Yup, I've made it clear several times on the thread that I think the OP should try to look at things like this rationally rather than emotionally.

So you're not here to contribute, just look down your nose at people, awesome.

KikiLaRue

El_Bee wrote: »

So you're not here to contribute, just look down your nose at people, awesome.

Actually, I've offered a valid opinion on the OP.

You don't like it, that's fine. Feel free to get on with your day. As you were.

Kilboor

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

Nah I’d rather he rots it be honest.

Should we execute him?

Hal3000

As usual no one cares about the victim.

KikiLaRue

Hal3000 wrote: »

As usual no one cares about the victim.

Where are you getting that idea?

If I was mugged and I heard the guy got three years with an additional two suspended, I would feel justice had been done.

Turbohymac

Turbohymac wrote: »

Sending him to jail is fine. But how about the 80 to 100k per year of taxpayers money to keep him there with all the frills of a 5 star hotel

what kind of dodgy 5-star hotels have you been staying at?

Cramped in a room with up three dodgy strangers and taking your morning crap in the corner of the bedroom isn't my idea of what The Fitzwilliam must be like.

Atoms for Peace

Very disappointed, thought this was going to be about his support of the lethal injection fir crims.

Wheeliebin30

Kilboor wrote: »

Should we execute him?

At least a 10 year mandatory sentence for anyone who threatens someone with a syringe full of their blood.

Absolute pond life offers nothing to anyone in society.

Actually yes, we should execute vermin like this.

Signore Fancy Pants

I don't like that McVerry lad.

Kilboor

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

At least a 10 year mandatory sentence for anyone who threatens someone with a syringe full of their blood.

Absolute pond life offers nothing to anyone in society.

Actually yes, we should execute vermin like this.

Interesting, a Duterte type policy so?

Odhinn

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

At least a 10 year mandatory sentence for anyone who threatens someone with a syringe full of their blood.

Absolute pond life offers nothing to anyone in society.

Actually yes, we should execute vermin like this.

The "good old days" when penaltys were harsh, brutal and often effectively a death sentence outside of execution.



Didn't work.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

3 years with two suspended for holding a syringe to someone is reasonable?


Ahhhh I’m so glad the poor lad is doing ok now after his 17 convictions.

Who cares about the victim, it’s all about the poor lad ay.

I find it strange that you are focused 100% on the scumbag yet are angry because you perceive that not enough focus is on the victim...

Then you go to mandatory minimum sentences to execution in a matter of words. That's emotion talking. There's no logic involved what so ever.

Do you have any evidence to suggest that your radical methodology would work?

Wheeliebin30

Odhinn wrote: »

The "good old days" when penaltys were harsh, brutal and often effectively a death sentence outside of execution.



Didn't work.

What do you suggest?

Mad_maxx

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

https://www.thejournal.ie/damien-reilly-courts-syringe-robbery-4623994-May2019/

“A MAN WHO threatened to stab a woman with a syringe needle during a robbery has been jailed for three years”


“The defence also presented a letter from Fr Peter McVerry saying that Reilly was stable and doing well in his drug rehabilitation”



Peter Mcverry in my eyes is a hypocrite who loves the limelight.

Giving a letter in court to support a scumbag who held up a women with a syringe.

The man had 17 previous convictions.

I’ve heard he also pays fines out of charity money for low life’s.

Can’t stand the man and his self righteous attitude.

Mc verry is a demagogue of the highest order and of course a Saint amongst the left wing media who never fail to join him for a game of softball

Recall him being interviewed on radio by Ray D'Arcy and claiming that evictions and repossession of homes should be illegal, obviously D'Arcy never said a word

Tedious communist

Deebles McBeebles

Dale Doback wrote: »

I don't like that McVerry lad.

He's not McVerry likeable.

weldoninhio

Cassandra Red Slammer wrote: »

I find it strange that you are focused 100% on the scumbag yet are angry because you perceive that not enough focus is on the victim...

Then you go to mandatory minimum sentences to execution in a matter of words. That's emotion talking. There's no logic involved what so ever.

Do you have any evidence to suggest that your radical methodology would work?

OP scumbag has 17 previous convictions. Execute him or incarcarate him indefinetly and he's not likely to get a nineteenth.

Odhinn

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

What do you suggest?

Ultimately drug abuse (and in particular heroin use) is the result of "self medication". If you had a hall full of junkies and took out the ones who had been sexually abused or through some form of trauma, it would be near enough empty. In short it means a more pro-active set of social services, the provision of real facilities for those taken into care, and improved access to pyschiartic services in working class and deprived areas.

Squatter

Odhinn wrote: »

The "good old days" when penaltys were harsh, brutal and often effectively a death sentence outside of execution.

Didn't work.

In that case, how come there's none of them still around?

100% success rate if you ask me!

KikiLaRue

Odhinn wrote: »

Ultimately drug abuse (and in particular heroin use) is the result of "self medication". If you had a hall full of junkies and took out the ones who had been sexually abused or through some form of trauma, it would be near enough empty. In short it means a more pro-active set of social services, the provision of real facilities for those taken into care, and improved access to pyschiartic services in working class and deprived areas.

18 comes after 17.

Wheeliebin30

Odhinn wrote: »

Ultimately drug abuse (and in particular heroin use) is the result of "self medication". If you had a hall full of junkies and took out the ones who had been sexually abused or through some form of trauma, it would be near enough empty. In short it means a more pro-active set of social services, the provision of real facilities for those taken into care, and improved access to pyschiartic services in working class and deprived areas.

So all junkies were sexually abused!!!!????


Jesus I’ve heard all the excuses now.

Odhinn

KikiLaRue wrote: »

18 comes after 17.

..ye wha?

riffmongous

You really have a bee in your bonnet about the homeless OP, every 2nd thread from you, literally

Odhinn

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

So all junkies were sexually abused!!!!????


Jesus I’ve heard all the excuses now.

I didn't say that. If you're going to misrepresent what I post there's not much point in continuing.

Squatter

Odhinn wrote: »

..ye wha?

Presumably a response to the excitable:

OP scumbag has 17 previous convictions. Execute him or incarcarate him indefinetly and he's not likely to get a nineteenth.

KikiLaRue

Odhinn wrote: »

Ultimately drug abuse (and in particular heroin use) is the result of "self medication". If you had a hall full of junkies and took out the ones who had been sexually abused or through some form of trauma, it would be near enough empty. In short it means a more pro-active set of social services, the provision of real facilities for those taken into care, and improved access to pyschiartic services in working class and deprived areas.

Excellent post.

The Portuguese model of decriminalisation has also massively reduced their heroin problem. They decided to treat addiction as a health problem rather than a crime and the results have been extraordinary.

weldoninhio

weldoninhio wrote: »

OP scumbag has 17 previous convictions. Execute him or incarcarate him indefinetly and he's not likely to get a nineteenth.

Just want to point out a small thing here. The media report figures like this without looking into it. 17 convictions probably don't relate to one crime, but it's quite normal for one crime to be recorded as several convictions, because the crime relates to various diverse breaches of the law.

Also bear in mind that most heroin addicts with criminal records have (or have had) various bench warrants for eg not paying a fine, all of which can add up.

Figures like this often give the impression that a person has been convicted of seventeen different crimes, but in fact he may only have been in court on three or four occasions.

El_Bee

Wheeliebin30 wrote: »

So all junkies were sexually abused!!!!????


Jesus I’ve heard all the excuses now.

I still laugh when I read "he was a promising footballer/sportsman" in the court section of the Herald again and again, clown world.