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Alex Jones content removed from Facebook, Youtube, Apple

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  • #1292
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,857 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    Ipso wrote: »
    You couldn’t get paid enough to deal with the tapeworms of humanity.

    Watched a programme recently on BBC 4 called the internets dirtiest secrets: the cleaners, 25,000 of them working in Manila, some of the things they describe is horrific.


  • #1293
    ogsjw
    Site Banned Posts: 328 ✭✭ogsjw


    Zorya wrote: »
    Don't you think discussions evolve to things that are tangential but still related to the opening argument?


    There are an insane amount of pages in this thread. Not everyone will read them all. So no. Make your own thread if you need. We're not reaching a limit on allowed threads.


  • #1294
    splashuum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    Allowing a billionaire oligarch monopolist to decide who has free speech and what opinions you can have is progressive apparently.

    Wow the current far left are insane.


  • #1295
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    This isn't a free speech issue. He broke the rules on a number of platforms and was taken off.

    He is free to sell vitamins and conspiracy theories on his own site.


  • #1296
    splashuum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    What about users like PJW? (which I have already brought up on this thread). They are slowly wiping the slate clean of any right leaning personality. Nuts


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  • #1297
    Timberrrrrrrr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,857 ✭✭✭✭Timberrrrrrrr


    splashuum wrote: »
    Allowing a billionaire oligarch monopolist to decide who has free speech and what opinions you can have is progressive apparently.

    Wow the current far left are insane.

    Where is this happening?


  • #1298
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    splashuum wrote: »
    What about users like PJW? (which I have already brought up on this thread). They are slowly wiping the slate clean of any right leaning personality. Nuts

    what about him?


  • #1299
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    splashuum wrote: »
    Allowing a billionaire oligarch monopolist to decide who has free speech and what opinions you can have is progressive apparently.

    Wow the current far left are insane.

    Enough about Infowars terms of service!


  • #1300
    super_furry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,355 ✭✭✭✭super_furry


    Patty Hearst wrote: »
    LOL
    Facebook moderators start believing the conspiracy theories they're charged with policing
    https://www.gq.com/story/facebook-moderators-conspiracy-theories

    Everytime I see a picture of Zuckerberg, he looks more and more like Data from Star Trek.


  • #1301
    Former Observer
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 474 ✭✭Former Observer


    Patty Hearst wrote: »
    Facebook moderators start believing the conspiracy theories they're charged with policing

    Honestly I think people care way too much about what other people think. The article talks about it like it's some sort of crisis that one dude thinks the earth is flat, another has questioned aspects of the holocaust and another has doubts about 9.11. People are becoming tyrannical in what opinions they will tolerate from other people. Seriously, as long as no one evangelizing to you on a constant basis just leave other people and their opinions, no matter how unorthodox, in peace. No one owns the truth, we basically have no idea wtf is going on anyway.


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  • #1302
    Cienciano
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,134 ✭✭✭✭Cienciano


    splashuum wrote: »
    Allowing a billionaire oligarch monopolist to decide who has free speech and what opinions you can have is progressive apparently.

    Wow the current far left are insane.

    I'm amazed at the amount of people who are completely ignorant of the concept of free speech. You should at least read the Wikipedia article about it so you know what it is.
    You thinking a persons ability to post whatever they like on facebook is free speech, that's fúcking hilarious


  • #1303
    Billy86
    Closed Accounts Posts: 23,495 ✭✭✭✭Billy86


    splashuum wrote: »
    What about users like PJW? (which I have already brought up on this thread). They are slowly wiping the slate clean of any right leaning personality. Nuts
    I'm pretty certain you'll be as eager to avoid this as all the other erroneously complaining about free speech, but I'll ask anyway.

    What is your opinion on Alex Jones own website banning people off its forum for saying things they don't agree with?


  • #1304
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,004 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Former Observer wrote: »
    Honestly I think people care way too much about what other people think. The article talks about it like it's some sort of crisis that one dude thinks the earth is flat, another has questioned aspects of the holocaust and another has doubts about 9.11. People are becoming tyrannical in what opinions they will tolerate from other people. Seriously, as long as no one evangelizing to you on a constant basis just leave other people and their opinions, no matter how unorthodox, in peace. No one owns the truth, we basically have no idea wtf is going on anyway.

    We do have an idea. The world is not flat. Certain people just have a high propensity to believe utter rubbish, sometimes it's harmless, sometimes it isn't (anti-vax)

    Private social media sites have every right to remove the more ridiculous or harmful stuff


  • #1305
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    Cienciano wrote: »
    I'm amazed at the amount of people who are completely ignorant of the concept of free speech. You should at least read the Wikipedia article about it so you know what it is.
    You thinking a persons ability to post whatever they like on facebook is free speech, that's fúcking hilarious


    They don't actually believe in free speech, it's just a slogan.

    splashuum wrote: »
    What about users like PJW? (which I have already brought up on this thread). They are slowly wiping the slate clean of any right leaning personality. Nuts


    Not right leaning personalities, hard right conspiracy theorists and bigots. Can you point to someone who was banned that hasn't engaged in pushing conspiracies or hate? Either the entire right is being attacked, in which case the entire right is represented seem to be like PJW, Sargon and Jones or there is a group of hard right people being banned because of their extreme views. which is it?


  • #1306
    ILoveYourVibes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Kermit.de.frog wrote: »
    http://www.fox10tv.com/story/38822431/youtube-apple-and-facebook-remove-content-from-infowars-and-alex-jones

    The lunatic has been removed from the asylum.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH4WF-JUdR4


    :pac::D:p

    WOO HOO!


  • #1307
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,748 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    splashuum wrote: »
    What about users like PJW? (which I have already brought up on this thread). They are slowly wiping the slate clean of any right leaning personality. Nuts

    How far to the right are you when you consider PJW "right leaning"?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #1308
    splashuum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    MrFresh wrote: »
    Cienciano wrote: »
    I'm amazed at the amount of people who are completely ignorant of the concept of free speech. You should at least read the Wikipedia article about it so you know what it is.
    You thinking a persons ability to post whatever they like on facebook is free speech, that's fúcking hilarious


    They don't actually believe in free speech, it's just a slogan.

    splashuum wrote: »
    What about users like PJW? (which I have already brought up on this thread). They are slowly wiping the slate clean of any right leaning personality. Nuts


    Not right leaning personalities, hard right conspiracy theorists and bigots. Can you point to someone who was banned that hasn't engaged in pushing conspiracies or hate? Either the entire right is being attacked, in which case the entire right is represented seem to be like PJW, Sargon and Jones or there is a group of hard right people being banned because of their extreme views. which is it?

    Please give me examples of where PJW has engaged in inciting hate or violence?


  • #1309
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    splashuum wrote: »
    Please give me examples of where PJW has engaged in inciting hate or violence?


    No. I never said he did. PJW falls in the conspiracy category.


  • #1310
    splashuum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    MrFresh wrote: »
    splashuum wrote: »
    Please give me examples of where PJW has engaged in inciting hate or violence?


    No. I never said he did. PJW falls in the conspiracy category.

    Facebook stated PJW was banned for inciting hate, nothing to do with conspiracy theories. Facebook are now facing a massive lawsuit as they cannot back up their claims.

    However it seems if you owned Facebook you would ban him for “conspiracy theories”. You would assume for a platform to ban a user for this that they would have to be churning out new and dangerous theories daily. Can you justify why he should to be banned for this?


  • #1311
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    splashuum wrote: »
    Facebook stated PJW was banned for inciting hate, nothing to do with conspiracy theories. Facebook are now facing a massive lawsuit as they cannot back up their claims.

    However it seems if you owned Facebook you would ban him for “conspiracy theories”. You would assume for a platform to ban a user for this that they would have to be churning out new and dangerous theories daily. Can you justify why he should to be banned for this?

    Care to back up this massive lawsuit? Cause I would say it's extraordinarily unlikely.


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  • #1312
    splashuum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 519 ✭✭✭splashuum


    Whether your left,right or in between If you can’t see how this is clear election meddling you may need your head checked. They are banning everything and anything pro-trump.

    The fb employee responsible for handling last weeks bans was the former press director of “Hilary for America”.

    But many will of course ignore these facts.


  • #1313
    Ipso
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    splashuum wrote: »
    Whether your left,right or in between If you can’t see how this is clear election meddling you may need your head checked. They are banning everything and anything pro-trump.

    The fb employee responsible for handling last weeks bans was the former press director of “Hilary for America”.

    But many will of course ignore these facts.

    Louis Farakan is pro Trump?


  • #1314
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    splashuum wrote: »
    Facebook stated PJW was banned for inciting hate, nothing to do with conspiracy theories. Facebook are now facing a massive lawsuit as they cannot back up their claims.

    However it seems if you owned Facebook you would ban him for “conspiracy theories”. You would assume for a platform to ban a user for this that they would have to be churning out new and dangerous theories daily. Can you justify why he should to be banned for this?


    Because they are dangerous. Pizzagate resulted in a man arming himself and going to a pizza restaurant. Anti-vax has resulted in outbreaks of preventable diseases. Sandy Hook conspiracies have resulted in harassment and threats towards the parents of murdered children.


    But to be fair, they don't rally need to justify it. If Mr Watson is happy to defend a baker for refusing service to someone based on their orientation, what's the issue with a social media platform refusing service to someone base don their political views?


  • #1315
    batgoat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,423 ✭✭✭batgoat


    splashuum wrote: »
    Whether your left,right or in between If you can’t see how this is clear election meddling you may need your head checked. They are banning everything and anything pro-trump.

    The fb employee responsible for handling last weeks bans was the former press director of “Hilary for America”.

    But many will of course ignore these facts.

    See, now you're veering into batty conspiracy turf....


  • #1316
    MrFresh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,420 ✭✭✭MrFresh


    splashuum wrote: »
    Whether your left,right or in between If you can’t see how this is clear election meddling you may need your head checked. They are banning everything and anything pro-trump.

    The fb employee responsible for handling last weeks bans was the former press director of “Hilary for America”.

    But many will of course ignore these facts.


    This fact, singular. You only stated one. The rest is opinion. They obviously aren't banning everything pro-Trump because he is still on Twitter and it's not like there isn't cause to remove him.


  • #1317
    Dohnjoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,004 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    splashuum wrote: »
    Whether your left,right or in between If you can’t see how this is clear election meddling you may need your head checked. They are banning everything and anything pro-trump.

    The fb employee responsible for handling last weeks bans was the former press director of “Hilary for America”.

    But many will of course ignore these facts.

    Ah, so it's a conspiracy?


  • #1318
    Sweetemotion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,556 ✭✭✭Sweetemotion


    I bet the same posters here, claiming splashuum post as a conspiracy theory to try and discredit him as a nut. Swallowed up the big conspiracy of the Trump Russian collusion.


  • #1319
    WinnyThePoo
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭WinnyThePoo


    Sweetemotion wrote: »
    I bet the same posters here, claiming splashuum post as a conspiracy theory to try and discredit him as a nut. Swallowed up the big conspiracy of the Trump Russian collusion.

    Swing and a miss:).


  • #1320
    VicMackey1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    Gavin McInnes could be next to get the chop on youtube. Ive watched a lot of his videos over the years and I cant understand why he would be a target! I think the term hate speech is being thrown around far to often.



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  • #1321
    ohnonotgmail
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,927 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    VicMackey1 wrote: »
    Gavin McInnes could be next to get the chop on youtube. Ive watched a lot of his videos over the years and I cant understand why he would be a target! I think the term hate speech is being thrown around far to often.


    What an attention seeking snowflake he is.


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