"Non book readers" - Season 8 Episode 4 "The Last of the S" - Spoilers post 2 fo

Deleted User wrote: »

You'd think the wildlings and the northerners would have given a hand with Kings landing after they all helped with the night king..

They’ll be down at some stage

Meh. It's all a bit wet at this stage. I mean how do you get ambushed at sea while you have dragons flying over head? Danny must of had her eyes in her arse!

Some decent GoT moments but I'm looking forward to it being over at this stage.

At this stage probably best to not get too wound up with posting on the internet.
Make no mistake HBO had the opportunity to close out the most epic series in TV history properly but for what very reason coukdn’t ’t do it
It should have been 2x 6 part series with the first of those 6 ending with last weeks ending.
They have rushed the writing and it shows.

Did I enjoy last night’s episode? I did I leave it at that. To delve any deeper in to my thoughts and I would just start criticizing it

MeTheMan wrote: »

Meh. It's all a bit wet at this stage. I mean how do you get ambushed at sea while you have dragons flying over head? Danny must of had her eyes in her arse!

Some decent GoT moments but I'm looking forward to it being over at this stage.

Never mind her fleet was literally facing them for a number of minutes before they fired on her

https://imgur.com/jS5GAt0

How do you miss that?

I bet the hundred catapult ships that attacked Mereen must feel stupid now. If only they'd used balistae instead of catapults!

Did we really see a dragon survive being attacked by an undead dragon, crash to the earth, and avoid an ice-javelin being shot by a demon zombie king, only to have him instantly killed by some pirate boi? Apparently

Bowlardo wrote: »

They have rushed the writing and it shows.

They doubled the production time, and halved the number of episodes. I don't think it being rushed is the issue.

The Starbucks coffee cup sitting on the table in front of Daenarys in Winterfell sums this season up for me, rushed and sloppy.

IAMAMORON wrote: »

I have never seen a long running TV series end to the satisfaction of its's audience. GOT will be no different. For me I am glad it is winding up.

Don't bend your necks and kill yourselves over it, you are allowed watch it for what it is. Yes the writing has been trite since the show passed the books out. What else can they do? In fairness it does look like even GRM is having difficulty concluding all the arcs. It is a massive saga, we are only going to see a summarised version of the main plotlines.

We still don't know how it is going to end however, so everyone will be watching until then.

The most frustrating part of it all is the amount of armchair critiquing from the audience. You would swear they have cancelled holidays the way people are begrudging the conclusion. Get over yourselves, it is a television show, your allowed hate it, love it or like it. It owes you nothing.

If people never complained about the quality of television then high quality HBO shows probably would never have been created in the first place.

Television shows aren't some sort of utilitarian civic service. It's not like public transport, or healthcare, or schooling. The only function it has is to entertain. That is literally what it is for. The degree to which people enjoy a television programme is the only metric we have to determine how good it is, or what quality of show should be created going forward.

GOT is worth critiquing as it is the highest budget (and possibly the highest grossing) and certainly one of the most talked about shows ever to appear. It is a once-in-a-lifetime depiction of the Song of Ice and Fire books on television . The failings that many of us see aren't due to budget, or time constraints, or copyright restrictions, but just bad writing. Bad writing is really easy to fix. You can do it with a pen and paper.

I appreciate that it's really difficult to wrap up such a sprawling story. I'm actually really sympathetic to that. Wrapping up the Iron Islands by saying "oh... Yara just took it" is fine. Saying that Dany has to... might want to spoiler the next bit... ... just in order to add some drama isn't quite as good.

Also the Wire and Breaking Bad were long running shows where fans were more than happy with the concluding seasons.

Did Euron not wonder how Tyrion knew about the baby?
Good episode i thought, much better than last week.

johnny_ultimate wrote: »

Increasingly convinced Bronn is the only deserving winner of the Game of Thrones.

Tyrion will end up on the throne. I've been preaching this since season 1. He's George's favorite character and the audience has always loved him.

The show will end with him ruling.

Deleted User wrote: »

Sansa said she could not swear without knowing. Jon said you can because "we're family" and then proceeds with the secret they're not family! So, don't think she's breaking a promise.

I've enjoyed this season very much. The pacing is wrong, but ending it this season requires everything to be speeded up. And, you simply can't please everyone.

I would have loved to have seen that conversation and have it play out like that.

Brilliant episode from my perspective.

As was mentioned above, it brought GoT back to where it is best - strategy, scheming and the politics and gossip that made it so intriguing. I particularly like the 'war room' type scenes.

The Good - Cersei (as ever), the final scene, the sea battle scene, the war room scene, the awkwardness at the beginning as the celebrated the victory over the dead. It was so cringey in a beautifully artful way. The way some of the budding love stories have opened up is pretty cool too. Emilia Clarke's acting in this episode was brilliant.

The Bad - as mentioned, some of the decisions made by some characters in this episode needed more time. Jaime, Varys, etc. It feels a bit rushed. The dragon being killed was surprising but affects your 'suspended disbelief' as he lived through the previous battle.

Overall a great episode. Can't wait for next week!