Irish people supporting English football teams

Tommy Kelly · 04-05-2019 10:48am

The Talking Bread wrote: »

All Irish citizens and all but 2 were born in Ireland you dope.

That's right, yeah.

What's a dope?

Tommy Kelly · 04-05-2019 10:58am

The Talking Bread wrote: »

All Irish citizens and all but 2 (who have Irish parents) were born in Ireland you dope.

If you are going to make stupid, bordering on racist statements, at least do some sort of research before embarrassing yourself.

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Bordering on racist comments?

I am not a racist in any way shape or form.

Now for the second time, what is a dope?

facehugger99 · 04-05-2019 11:11am

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Bordering on racist comments?

I am not a racist in any way shape or form.

Now for the second time, what is a dope?

I don't know what a tracker mortgage is.

Tommy Kelly · 04-05-2019 11:19am

facehugger99 wrote: »

I don't know what a tracker mortgage is.

I'm falling around the place laughing here.

Good one, man.

The Talking Bread · 04-05-2019 11:36am

physioman wrote: »

I just don't get it. Why are Irish people so fanatical about English football teams. I particularly laugh at the way they talk about individual players being loyal to particular teams. Do they really care about the fans or the 100k they are getting a week. ��

Don't you support Arsenal, and refer to them as "we", "us" etc and seem invested to the point you lament certain players departing etc? I know you are just attention seeking but at least cover your tracks?

Collie D · 04-05-2019 11:43am

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Don't you support Arsenal, and refer to them as "we", "us" etc and seem invested to the point you lament certain players departing etc? I know you are just attention seeking but at least cover your tracks?

It would appear that - unlike the OP - you can use the search function.

The Talking Bread · 04-05-2019 11:47am

Collie D wrote: »

It would appear that - unlike the OP - you can use the search function.

The most un Irish of teams also! The last significant Irish player to represent them being Quinn, 30 years ago!

Collie D · 04-05-2019 11:51am

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Watched the Ireland match on the telly last night. The guts of half the team aren't Irish and that put me off so I won't be watching them again.

I believe there were two English born players in the starting 11 with the rest born here. I stand to be corrected on the number of foreign players but it certainly wasn’t “the guts of” or half.

Although you did says the guts of half which is what - more than 50% of 5.5 players? So let’s say three.

Tommy Kelly · 04-05-2019 12:00pm

Collie D wrote: »

I believe there were two English born players in the starting 11 with the rest born here. I stand to be corrected on the number of foreign players but it certainly wasn’t “the guts of” or half.

Although you did says the guts of half which is what - more than 50% of 5.5 players? So let’s say three.

Looks like your buddy Ginger Bread can use the search function but can't do what he told me to do and do research prior to posting.

Btw, my child was born here too 13 years ago and is not Irish.

facehugger99 · 04-05-2019 12:05pm

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Looks like your buddy Ginger Bread can use the search function but can't do what he told me to do and do research prior to posting.

Were you able to look up 'dope' using the "search function"?

Tommy Kelly · 04-05-2019 12:06pm

facehugger99 wrote: »

Were you able to look up 'dope' using the "search function"?

'No Results'

Plenty for 'PC prick's' though.

Collie D · 04-05-2019 12:10pm

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Looks like your buddy Ginger Bread can use the search function but can't do what he told me to do and do research prior to posting.

Btw, my child was born here too 13 years ago and is not Irish.

Define Irish then. Actually don’t. Tell me the rules for eligibility to play for Ireland. I’d say being born in Ireland is high up the list.

The Talking Bread · 04-05-2019 12:17pm

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Looks like your buddy Ginger Bread can use the search function but can't do what he told me to do and do research prior to posting.

Btw, my child was born here too 13 years ago and is not Irish.

OK, I'll play with you.................Must be tough to get any sort of state benefits like healthcare, social welfare, citizenship, proper schooling, jobs etc for them. Do they live in some limbo, like an airport terminal?

Tommy Kelly · 04-05-2019 12:19pm

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Must be tough to get any sort of state benefits like healthcare, social welfare, citizenship, proper schooling, jobs etc for them. Do they live in some limbo, like an airport terminal?

What's a dope, though?

That's the real question, here.

omega man · 04-05-2019 12:30pm

Each to their own OP.

GAA is my passion but I’ve supported an English football team since the 80’s and have often travelled over for matches.

However you can’t beat the feeling of your own ‘home’ team winning, I don’t care what anyone says there’s no comparison.

I also detest the republican type Celtic supports whom often refer to the GAA as bog ball. Can’t get my head around that attitude albeit from a small enough minority.

Tommy Kelly · 04-05-2019 12:30pm

Collie D wrote: »

Define Irish then. Actually don’t. Tell me the rules for eligibility to play for Ireland. I’d say being born in Ireland is high up the list.

The rules say if you're born in Ireland, you're Irish alright. However I believe that a child born of two African parents regardless of where they were born is African. note I'm only using African parents as an example.

Rules or no rules I'm entitled to believe that and that belief does not make me a racist or a dope.

The Talking Bread · 04-05-2019 12:36pm

"I am only using African"

What does that bloody mean............... Where are you from yourself that you don't consider your child Irish born child Irish.

The Talking Bread · 04-05-2019 12:38pm

Actually, I am not playing anymore. I am sure someone will spend longer feeding on your bait

Collie D · 04-05-2019 12:41pm

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

The rules say if you're born in Ireland, you're Irish alright. However I believe that a child born of two African parents regardless of where they were born is African. note I'm only using African parents as an example.

Rules or no rules I'm entitled to believe that and that belief does not make me a racist or a dope.

I didn’t call you either of those things but what you believe to be Irish has no impact on citizenship or eligibility to play for the Irish team thankfully.

The Talking Bread · 04-05-2019 12:59pm

Saying someone who identifies as Irish, grew up in Ireland, has a strong Irish accent, Irish education and even represents an Irish international team and is perfectly and legally entitled to same self national identification isn't Irish based on their skin colour, is, if you state it is your opinion, a racist opinion, no matter how you dress it up.

A feature of a dope is ignorance and if you are ignorant to all those facts, namely that your opinion is racist, then yeah, the name befits.

I think your comments are far stronger and, indeed, dangerous in society than me calling you ignorant.

So, yeah, you are very much entitled to your opinion but like it or not people are entitled and right to call your opinion racist and ignorant.

Now I know you are seeking reaction, but I just want to clarify what my comments mean, for fear you are playing the victim of unjustifiable name calling.

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YFlyer · 04-05-2019 1:04pm

COYS

Atoms for Peace · 04-05-2019 1:06pm

What about the real weirdos who support actual "foreign" clubs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gkqL0I20sI

Tommy Kelly · 04-05-2019 1:11pm

The Talking Bread wrote: »

Saying someone who identifies as Irish, grew up in Ireland, has a strong Irish accent, Irish education and even represents an Irish international team and is perfectly and legally entitled to same self national identification isn't Irish based on their skin colour, is, if you state it is your opinion, a racist opinion, no matter how you dress it up.

A feature of a dope is ignorance and if you are ignorant to all those facts, namely that your opinion is racist, then yeah, the name befits.

I think your comments are far stronger and, indeed, dangerous in society than me calling you ignorant.

So, yeah, you are very much entitled to your opinion but like it or not people are entitled and right to call your opinion racist and ignorant.

Now I know you are seeking reaction, but I just want to clarify what my comments mean, for fear you are playing the victim of unjustifiable name calling.

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I did not say it was based on their skin colour. You are deliberately trying to do what you are accusing me of trying to do and that's look for a reaction.

Please take your own advice now and don't reply to me again.

Pac1Man · 04-05-2019 1:17pm

"Yous did well the weekend. Who do yous have next?"

Or..

"He's done well for us all season."

This is the kind of sh1te I can't help overhearing every fuking Monday.

The Talking Bread · 04-05-2019 1:19pm

But it is their skin colour, stop playing coy............. a circumstance of their parents skin colour. Because why else aren't they Irish which you claimed they weren't?

Worm away from your comments when someone calls you out! Embarrassing stuff!

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orourkeda1977 · 04-05-2019 1:43pm

Omackeral · 04-05-2019 6:17pm

Roddy Doyle writes an excellent piece on his first match back in Dalymount after decades away.

The place was heaving

Shanotheslayer · 04-05-2019 6:28pm

Pac1Man wrote: »

"Yous did well the weekend. Who do yous have next?"

Or..

"He's done well for us all season."

This is the kind of sh1te I can't help overhearing every fuking Monday.

You ok Hun?

Bobblehats · 04-05-2019 6:48pm

Shadwell Army!

windy shepard henderson · 05-05-2019 5:34am

physioman wrote: »

I just don't get it. Why are Irish people so fanatical about English football teams. I particularly laugh at the way they talk about individual players being loyal to particular teams. Do they really care about the fans or the 100k they are getting a week. &#55357;&#56834;

nonsense post there are several irish players in the EPL loads just outside it the championship , they have such a value to the irish national team i take it we should just ignore the whole lot of them ......or just use it our advantage which we are trying without being stupidly interrupted by stupid posts and threads like this :rolleyes:

windy shepard henderson · 05-05-2019 5:56am

Pac1Man wrote: »

"Yous did well the weekend. Who do yous have next?"

Or..

"He's done well for us all season."

This is the kind of sh1te I can't help overhearing every fuking Monday.

it might be easier if you go somewhere they speak english , nothing worse then someone using the word youse ( not even close to a word

) let alone using it twice

if you want to improve your mondays listen to people that speak english :rolleyes:

YFlyer · 05-05-2019 8:44pm

Delighted the scum drew today.

The Talking Bread · 05-05-2019 8:55pm

YFlyer wrote: »

Delighted the scum drew today.

Let me guess, you are 10, 12? Or maybe just a bit pathetic. "The scum" . Christ,

Tommy Kelly · 05-05-2019 9:19pm

Scum on Thursday nights channel 5 next season lol.

YFlyer · 09-05-2019 7:01am

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Scum on Thursday nights channel 5 next season lol.

Oh what a night.

begbysback · 09-05-2019 2:07pm

After the 2 semi finals we can safely put this one to bed

/thread

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 09-05-2019 2:24pm

Tommy Kelly wrote: »

Scum on Thursday nights channel 5 next season lol.

That's what windex is for.

Hamsterchops · 09-05-2019 7:34pm

What about Irish people supporting Welsh teams?

Is that OK?

RobMc59 · 09-05-2019 7:40pm

windy shepard henderson wrote: »

it might be easier if you go somewhere they speak english , nothing worse then someone using the word youse ( not even close to a word ) let alone using it twice

if you want to improve your mondays listen to people that speak english :rolleyes:

They say youse in Liverpool!:)

Bobblehats · 09-05-2019 7:57pm

RobMc59 wrote: »

They say youse in Liverpool!:)

Yosser Hughes says Youse!

landofthetree · 08-10-2021 11:21am

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110083292#Comment_110083292

Merseyside was Tory heartland up go the 1970s. Only when they lost their jobs did the Tory support decline.

Thatcher was a frequent visitor to Anfield and liverpool owners plus many of the players were Tory mouthpieces. Eg Souness.

image-10-margaret-thatcher-on-liverpool-a-look-back-at-some-of-her-visits-to-liverpool-335594252.jpg

Anyway. Good news today. Newcastle have billionaire owners. So less success for Liverpool,United,Arsenal etc. Hopefully another few teams get billionaire owners and the teams that have big support in Ireland win nothing.

Strumms · 08-10-2021 12:55pm

It’s nice that in a fûcking democracy people can support, love, take an interest in and follow whatever sports team(s) they like...

im a Bohemians and Manchester United fan and make no apologies for it... pre covid I get over to Manchester about 3 times a year and Dalymount here when I can as it’s just down the road.

a neighbor who is Irish spent a couple of years living in Berlin in his 20’s and supports Hertha Berlin, and Arsenal because his dad a Londoner , he goes back to Germany once a year and at least once over to London too...

Let them at it ffs.

cj maxx · 08-10-2021 1:12pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/110076602#Comment_110076602

This reason most Irish people would support an English team is its a far higher level of sport, compared to here.

Also the whole razzmatazz around the epl and cl is infinitely better than any lol fayre

is_that_so · 08-10-2021 1:14pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117992657#Comment_117992657

Indeed have Spanish and German teams as well as English and local teams.

08-10-2021 1:32pm

I don’t get how anyone supports a team after a certain age. I understand schoolboys dreaming of being footballers following the big glamorous English clubs, but 50 year old men watching a bunch of guys half their age running about for 100k a week …how can you not feel like a mug.

EmmetSpiceland · 08-10-2021 1:55pm

Funnily enough, today is the first time, in a long time, that I’ve noticed, overweight, middle aged men with Man United jerseys stretched over their considerable bellies. Must have seen 3 or 4 in the “shopping centre” I was in, not Dundrum.

And on a Friday, no less. Would really make one fear for the League of Ireland attendances, mostly with Bohs or Rovers. Hopefully they’ll still hold their own but with such fickle, “fair weather”, fans you would really have to worry.

Although, if United don’t win anything, again, this year, or end up playing in far flung places in one of the dreadful Europa cups those jerseys will go back into the wardrobe and the ex-United fans will be back on the LoI terraces cheering on “real football”.

RobbieTheRobber · 08-10-2021 2:11pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117993005#Comment_117993005

Would you have the same issues with "overweight, middle aged men with" non irish band t-shirts "stretched over their considerable bellies" or is just Soccer teams you have an issue with here?

DoctorEdgeWild · 08-10-2021 2:16pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117992837#Comment_117992837

Is it the same thing when we go to the theatre? I know I'll never be the lead in Phantom of the Opera, but I'm there to enjoy myself. Similar with a sporting event, I get a sense of excitement and happiness when I see the team I support score a goal. Is it really that hard to understand? I enjoyed watching James Bond last weekend, didn't bother me that Daniel Craig is on millions while I'm on a tenner.

EmmetSpiceland · 08-10-2021 2:47pm

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/117993132#Comment_117993132

No, not really. I don’t really think “grown men” should wear soccer jerseys unless they are playing, or attending, the game.

My “issue” is more about the sheer number of ex-United fans who either stopped support EPL altogether or started following LoI team, usually Rovers or Bohs, when their team weren’t “performing”. You know, when they were shíte.

Hard to take these lads seriously when they “don” the jersey now and talk of supporting United all their life.

08-10-2021 3:33pm

Been to plenty of LoI games over the years, mostly to have pints. The standard on display wasn’t great, but you’d get used to it.

Most of the fans are grand as well, but there’s a certain type of LoI supporter that is absolute poison. These lads are absolute monumental pains in the hole. It’s the joyless ‘real football’ types. Bohs and Galway United in particular are festooned with these pricks. Like they are making some sacrifice to be there on a cold Friday night to follow the beautiful game, and anyone who decides to watch Arsenal vs Leeds instead is a ‘plastic’. Serious ‘clubmen’ who bore everyone to death. Usually a Republican as well so they can do the anti-English thing a bit better.

Avoid these people and don’t let them into your life. The best way to avoid them is not to attend LoI games.

Irish people supporting English football teams

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