"Non book readers" - Season 8 Episode 3 "The Long Night" - Spoilers post 2 forwa

Triceratops Ballet wrote: »

How would Bran have killed the NK though? he can't even walk, he doesn't do magic, his only route would be to Warg into something that could kill him? Would that have been better than the trained assassin defending her family and their home?

Ive no idea but like i said my only reason for picking Bran would be the background between The 3eyed Raven and The Night King. We only know so much about there story so if they wanted to shock and surprise us find a way with something that would actually go along with a possible part of the story and not just ''Ayra's an assassin''


Hes not my ultimate pick like i said id have to think it all threw but Starks where mentioned and who better then the one whos actually very much so connected to The Night king!

Triceratops Ballet wrote: »

How would Bran have killed the NK though? he can't even walk, he doesn't do magic, his only route would be to Warg into something that could kill him? Would that have been better than the trained assassin defending her family and their home?

But isn't that what Benioff and Weiss and the other scriptwriters are there for? To build on GRRM's more out-there concepts and situations in striking and dramatically satisfying ways. as I was saying in the book readers thread, it doesn't seem like they have the imagination or ingenuity to do that. So I wonder why are they showrunning a massive fantasy series...

I wonder is Yara due back in with the iron born
To back up the North. I'd imagine the unsullied forces are decimated and drothkhai wiped out which would leave the forces of the north with very little interest in kings landing unless they attacked winterfell. Dani would have a job on her hands to convince them otherwise.

Cersi wanted elephants I wonder was that to move a few massive crossbows around to take down dragons

Gerry G wrote: »

This has to be the nerdiest trend ever. I love every episode, I let my imagination run wild and that should be what it's all about. Poindexters

Which is why it's easy to keep people happy even though there's clear faults in the story and writing.

Deleted User wrote: »

I have to say I'm fairly split myself even though I really enjoyed it. Will have to watch it in HD tonight before I make comment on the darkness of those first 20 -30 minutes which was a poor viewing experience.

As it is right now, it's not in my own top few episodes of GoT, but that could change in time. It wasn't even the best episode of a HBO show for my viewing last night - I watched 'Barry' after GoT and holy shìt was that a perfect episode of television. In GoT's defense though, Barry hit it out of the park last night and produced its best episode yet.

I downloaded a good 1080p copy last night to do the same thing (I watched it on Sky Atlantic SD - it was very bad). It looked a lot better.

The battle itself was terrifying, I think - I don't need main characters to die off on me to validate that, like everyone else appears to think.
I was physically ill from beginning to end with the nerves - the last episode to do that to me was The Red Wedding.

Not once did I wonder why nobody major died off (except, Theon was a pretty big character - he's been around since Episode 1, and was the centrepoint of one the best storylines in the show IMO (Reek), so disregarding him as 'Major' is a bit of a disservice if you ask me).

People all over Twitter are spoutin' the same patter about the Night King; "He went out like a bitch".

I do not believe this.

My "theory" (I hate that word, now) is:
The Night King was unstoppable and he knew it. He had his whole army around him, he knew he was going to be untouched. He knew there was nobody there to stop him swanning into the castle and towards Bran.

He killed Theon easily, he stood in front of Bran - he knew Bran couldn't do anything - HE GOT COMPLACENT.

We all seem to forget that Arya, when she wants to be, is a swift and silent assassin. She slipped past those generals with nout but a breeze, if she got caught on her way to him, then we would be complaining "I thought she was meant to be this trained assassin".

She did what she busted her hole to learn to do, and she was successful, and that's the reality of it.

The show is called Game of Thrones, the forefront of that show has always been the Iron Throne. The wrong person is in it, and has been for 8 seasons. There has never been a rightful monarch to that throne for far too long and to set it aside in favour of the White Walkers would undermine its importance.

I saw the white walkers as this looming threat that would get in the way of that goal. They needed to be dealt with and they were dealt with, yet people aren't happy about that.

That battle had high stakes - just because no "major character" died does not mean it didn't.

riffmongous wrote: »

There has to be more to him though, he's waited how ever many thousand years for his chance to get past the Wall and in the one year he becomes active again he happens to encounter a dragon which solves his problem. There has to be planning and intelligence there, otherwise it's just beyond ridiculous coincidence

There can't be planning and intelligence there cos he can't even speak!! if he ended up winning and for 8 seasons we never say any of his interior life, any thoughts, musings, plans anything it would literally be the worst possible ending.

The writers have been showing us all along how unimportant he is, by not showing us anything about him. We can't see nothing of him for 8 seasons for him to win the whole lot in one battle. He's not a person, not in anyway that counts like there's no stakes for him

dominatinMC wrote: »

I agree with most of your post. GoT has certainly become a victim of its own success and can't please everybody - that comes with the territory. Similar to you, I have no issue with the lack of "major" character deaths, although if the WWs had taken out someone it would have served as a good demonstration of their power. Also no issue with Arya, in fact I was happy she did it and not Jon (obvious choice).

However, the fact remains that the WWs were built up throughout the entirety of the show as the biggest threat, and were simply dismissed with one sticking of the pointy end. For me, this was not in any way satisfying. If they had won the battle, but lost the war, it would be more satisfying, just so we got an idea of their malevolence - which was teased, talked about, alluded to, throughout the series. I know the real battle is for the throne, but the Night King should have played a more pivotal part in directly affecting that outcome, rather than being a distraction/sub-plot for the whole series.

The White Walkers have been there since the start, before the throne issue was introduced, I thought the NK went out to easy.

Just watched it for second time. HD is a must because of the night time. For an 90 mins battle episode it's well paced. And of course it was Arya, it had to be. The people complaining don't appreciate how easy it would have been to make a real botch job of this. The amount of money DC put into their movies with established loved characters and they can't get it right. This was a damn good job, not perfect but can't realistically expect that. It's a testament to the high mark other episodes have reached that people are moaning about this.

Irish94 wrote: »

5. How did the Night King raise the bodies from the crypt? I thought to raise a dead body, it had to be killed by a wight, White Walker or the Night King himself.

Can anyone answer this? Is it the case he could raise anyone from the dead or do you have to be in a 100 metre radius or what.