Instagram, gyms and mental illness

OldMrBrennan83 · 28-04-2019 01:54PM

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Narcissism will be the downfall of humanity.
Social media is destruction, personal relationships are non existent

Social media shouldn't bear all the blame for non existent personal relationships though, it's too easy an excuse. A lot of the real reason is that most people these days are arseholes and not all that worth partaking in a personal relationship with.
Like this whole thread is about all the bragging etc, but talk to some twat in a pub or elsewhere and within 8 minutes they'll have bored you to tears trying to project how amazing their life is. Social media is full of it but it's in no way exclusive to social media.

Jimmy_oc1998 · 28-04-2019 01:55PM

You'd wonder what the world will be like in 50 years.

If you look at society every 50 years throughout history I'd say there's massive change in each one?

Gimme A Pound · 28-04-2019 02:04PM

What's with this obsession for sticking "mental illness" after everything of late? What is such diagnosis based on?

Charles Ingles · 28-04-2019 02:06PM

Jimmy_oc1998 wrote: »

You'd wonder what the world will be like in 50 years.

If you look at society every 50 years throughout history I'd say there's massive change in each one?

I grew over 50 years ago it's scary how much things have changed, I worry for my grandchildren

OldMrBrennan83 · 28-04-2019 02:06PM

Olive Zealous Salsa wrote: »

What's with this obsession for sticking "mental illness" after everything of late? What is such diagnosis based on?

It's fashionable these days. There's no such thing as happy or sad any more, you have mental health problems as soon as you feel a bit fed up.

Pac1Man · 28-04-2019 02:07PM

Olive Zealous Salsa wrote: »

What's with this obsession for sticking "mental illness" after everything of late? What is such diagnosis based on?

Being a victim had become a virtue.

ogsjw · 28-04-2019 02:11PM

Olive Zealous Salsa wrote: »

What's with this obsession for sticking "mental illness" after everything of late?

Can you provide some examples as to this 'everything'?

GregGregson · 28-04-2019 02:16PM

Charles Ingles wrote: »

The internet is on its last few years anyway. social media is very destructive the sooner they shut the internet down the better

The internet cannot be shut down but you're right to say the current internet and media/social media model is unsustainable and on its last legs.

We are moving to a more decentralized version of internet 3.0 that will undermine the revenue model of media/social media companies

There are decentralized social media and news alternatives emerging in opposition to FB, Twitter and Instagram

Bit of a self-promo here but I've written research at length on this subject that is a free download and well worth reading as a macroeconomic trend

https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/us-election-2020-an-upvote-for-decentralized-media-and-web-3-0

Wibbs · 28-04-2019 02:18PM

Charles Ingles wrote: »

I grew over 50 years ago it's scary how much things have changed, I worry for my grandchildren

Meh, I'd be about the same age and from what I see it's just variations on a theme. The old, well more the middle aged(80 years olds have usually zero fucks to give) are always freaked out by the young. Indeed if you're young and not pissing off the middle aged, you're doing it wrong.

Back in the 70's the middle aged were flipping out over the Kids™ being too permissive, probably on drugs and there was too much sex and violence on TV. Pick a generation all the way back to the invention of writing and the old are complaining about the young and the young are blaming the old on their lot. Same shit, different day.

I would say the younger generation face way more expectations and pressures and an unsure future compared to most times in the past outside of times of war.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 28-04-2019 02:19PM

Nobody has proven that Instagram posters are in fact depressed yet. Or that gym goers are. It seems like an odd position to take.

Charles Ingles · 28-04-2019 02:22PM

GregGregson wrote: »

The internet cannot be shut down but you're right to say the current internet and media/social media model is unsustainable and on its last legs.

We are moving to a more decentralized version of internet 3.0 that will undermine the revenue model of media/social media companies

There are decentralized social media and news alternatives emerging in opposition to FB, Twitter and Instagram

Bit of a self-promo here but I've written research at length on this subject that is a free download and well worth reading as a macroeconomic trend

https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/us-election-2020-an-upvote-for-decentralized-media-and-web-3-0

I can see the internet just becoming an elaborate version of television,the war for control and censorship has all ready started with FB YouTube and Twitter.
Because of the current ownership it's right wing voices being silenced that could turn the other way.
What I think is social media will be gone and internet will be read only.
With only certain people able to publish a return to old fashion media just delivered through the internet.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 28-04-2019 02:24PM

GregGregson wrote: »

The internet cannot be shut down but you're right to say the current internet and media/social media model is unsustainable and on its last legs.

We are moving to a more decentralized version of internet 3.0 that will undermine the revenue model of media/social media companies

There are decentralized social media and news alternatives emerging in opposition to FB, Twitter and Instagram

Bit of a self-promo here but I've written research at length on this subject that is a free download and well worth reading as a macroeconomic trend

https://bravenewcoin.com/insights/us-election-2020-an-upvote-for-decentralized-media-and-web-3-0

The internet is decentralised in its infrastructure already. What happened over time was that FB, Twitter and other platforms created network effects.

You had to be on one of those platforms to network with people on one of those platforms. There’s definitely nothing inherent in the internet except the human desire for connection that causes this and I can’t see it going away. A decentralised network was how it all started.

OldMrBrennan83 · 28-04-2019 02:25PM

The internet will be shut down

:D

Charles Ingles · 28-04-2019 02:27PM

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

The internet will be shut down :D

There is one plug in America if you pull the plug out of the socket that's it the internet is gone.
I think it's in Al gore's house he invented the internet

Franz Von Peppercorn · 28-04-2019 02:32PM

Charles Ingles wrote: »

I can see the internet just becoming an elaborate version of television,the war for control and censorship has all ready started with FB YouTube and Twitter.
Because of the current ownership it's right wing voices being silenced that could turn the other way.
What I think is social media will be gone and internet will be read only.
With only certain people able to publish a return to old fashion media just delivered through the internet.

You do realise the internet isn’t just news, right?

It’s already technically decentralised and read write.

If it wasn’t write we couldn’t communicate with it and your post wouldn’t appear. Nor would banking work. Or booking a hotel etc.

It is precisely because the humans like to network we got centralisation.

There used to be quite a few Irish general forums and only boards has survived. Similarly there were FB competitors, and attempts at competitors (like google+) and they all suffered from the chicken and egg situation, why join a platform with no people , so no people join.

Strumms · 28-04-2019 02:54PM

Balanadan wrote: »

I find it difficult to browse instagram without thinking there are a lot of mentally ill people on there. You get the stories in the media every so often about someone who has curated the "perfect" life on instagram yet they a deeply depressed and unhappy.

There's a chain of gyms near me and they are full of people who spend hours, and I mean hours, hanging around the place taking selfies for instagram. Some of the poses they pull... :pac: Their instagram pages are almost solely selfies, posed and curated to portray themselves in a certain way. The same gym promotes supplements to the point where you'd probably be ****ting pure protein and Monster energy drinks ffs.

I find the overwhelming majority of people who use Instagram are normal, well adjusted and decent people who just enjoy sharing their lives / photos with their mates and the same in reverse . Like in any walk of life it will be possible that there will be some small number of weirdos and fûckwits around the place but I think Insta is relatively free at least in the circle whom I follow and who follow me. It’s mostly for fans of photos.

If there is one social media platform which seems to be a wankèr magnet I found it’s twitter, every fûcking attention seeker going who wants to tell us their thoughts on everything they know nothing about. Every thick cûnt fickle as fûck dumb ass mouthpiece going seems to write for hours, saying nothing.

stefanovich · 28-04-2019 03:07PM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I just post random interesting pics of nothing in particular, don't follow or am followed by anybody I know I real life. In all its a bit pointless to be honest.

Better to do it for yourself than for others. I think that's actually quite a healthy way to use Instagram.

stefanovich · 28-04-2019 03:09PM

Strumms wrote: »

I find the overwhelming majority of people who use Instagram are normal, well adjusted and decent people who just enjoy sharing their lives / photos with their mates and the same in reverse . Like in any walk of life it will be possible that there will be some small number of weirdos and fûckwits around the place but I think Insta is relatively free at least in the circle whom I follow and who follow me. It’s mostly for fans of photos.

If there is one social media platform which seems to be a wankèr magnet I found it’s twitter, every fûcking attention seeker going who wants to tell us their thoughts on everything they know nothing about. Every thick cûnt fickle as fûck dumb ass mouthpiece going seems to write for hours, saying nothing.

It's valueless nonsense. I pray for an Instagram bug that causes their 900 euro iPhones to overheat and spontaneously combust,

JoshN1 · 28-04-2019 03:09PM

yes, I hear about it more and more often, we just should not dwell on social networks

smurgen · 28-04-2019 03:20PM

Instagram is fascinating.half of it looks like not accounts these days.interesting tags and slogans that hint at the peer pressure can be seen easily e.g positive vibes only and #goals.

RollieFingers · 28-04-2019 03:38PM

Strumms wrote: »

I find the overwhelming majority of people who use Instagram are normal, well adjusted and decent people who just enjoy sharing their lives / photos with their mates and the same in reverse . Like in any walk of life it will be possible that there will be some small number of weirdos and fûckwits around the place but I think Insta is relatively free at least in the circle whom I follow and who follow me. It’s mostly for fans of photos.

If there is one social media platform which seems to be a wankèr magnet I found it’s twitter, every fûcking attention seeker going who wants to tell us their thoughts on everything they know nothing about. Every thick cûnt fickle as fûck dumb ass mouthpiece going seems to write for hours, saying nothing.

I'd see Instagram as being way more narcissistic and full of attention seekers than Twitter.

farmerwifelet · 28-04-2019 04:09PM

I spent the week at an Irish beauty spot and the amount of people out running. It was kind of sad that they couldn't go and enjoy the scenery and take a break from their regime for the few days we had good weather. They all had headphones and looked miserable. I think people put too much pressure on themselves to stay "strong". Everything in moderation.

28-04-2019 05:12PM

Olive Zealous Salsa wrote: »

What's with this obsession for sticking "mental illness" after everything of late? What is such diagnosis based on?

A lot of the time it seems to be a diagnosis that comes from a sense of superiority and an incomprehension of a lifestyle different of one's own, regardless of it's worth or lack thereof.

Shallowness and vanity aren't mental illnesses, those are the things that social media promotes and amplifies and what I suspect is mainly behind the kind of thing the OP is getting at.

Gimme A Pound · 28-04-2019 05:35PM

Charles Ingles wrote: »

The internet is on its last few years anyway. social media is very destructive the sooner they shut the internet down the better

The internet is not on its last few years and the shutting down of it would eliminate many important resources and jobs. Don't be silly.

ogsjw wrote: »

Can you provide some examples as to this 'everything'?

Well I'm not being literal of course (although I am being hypocritical as I dislike misuse of words) but you see people say a lot on social media now that someone is mentally ill (or autistic is another one) as if it's a fact.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 28-04-2019 06:23PM

ogsjw wrote: »

Can you provide some examples as to this 'everything'?

“Everything” was obviously a turn of phrase. For a good example of what gimme was talking about see the op.

I see no evidence that people who post on Instagram have issues - they may be causing issues in other people though by amplfying their good life.

stefanovich · 28-04-2019 06:26PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

“Everything” was obviously a turn of phrase. For a good example of what gimme was talking about see the op.

I see no evidence that people who post on Instagram have issues - they may be causing issues in other people though by amplfying their good life.

They should all be put in the army.

Balanadan · 28-04-2019 06:41PM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

“Everything” was obviously a turn of phrase. For a good example of what gimme was talking about see the op.

I see no evidence that people who post on Instagram have issues - they may be causing issues in other people though by amplfying their good life.

It's well documented m8.

kowloon · 29-04-2019 02:13PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I would see the depression and anxiety conditions in a similar way. Our environment is causing it more and more and in more people. In more healthy environments both diabeties and depression and anxiety are significantly lower in those populations. As yer man points out in the video, our society is a machine that is near designed to cause unhappiness. And worse it's getting.

I'm guessing you're talking about type 2 diabetes, but an interesting thing I was told about type 1 diabetes was that it could be triggered by stress. So you have a physical condition where your imune system turns on the beta cells in your panceas that can be triggered by social conditions.
Not sure quite how true it was, and I've also heard it can be triggered as a response to a virus, but I thought it was interesting that entirely psychological conditions could exert subconcious control over the immune system.

pq0n1ct4ve8zf5 · 29-04-2019 03:20PM

My Instagram feed is about 60% sharks. When I joined it was asking about my interests, said do I like sharks, sure who doesn't says I. It wasn't my #goal to have quite so many shark things but it's actually great. Now when I look at it in the morning there's a pretty good chance first thing I'll see is a great white and an all caps caption "NEVER LOOK BACK! AND FOLLOW YOUR SHARK!!!" which sets me right up for the day.

Your Instagram feed is what you make it is my point, I guess.

Swampy · 29-04-2019 03:33PM

Luciana Swift Mink wrote: »

My Instagram feed is about 60% sharks. When I joined it was asking about my interests, said do I like sharks, sure who doesn't says I. It wasn't my #goal to have quite so many shark things but it's actually great. Now when I look at it in the morning there's a pretty good chance first thing I'll see is a great white and an all caps caption "NEVER LOOK BACK! AND FOLLOW YOUR SHARK!!!" which sets me right up for the day.

Your Instagram feed is what you make it is my point, I guess.

Same, i'm mostly sharks and burgers.

Instagram, gyms and mental illness

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