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If there was no religion's do you think there would have been less wars in history?

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  • 27-04-2019 11:29PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,501 ✭✭✭✭
    Ms


    Would WW1 or WW2 or any other major war in history have happened if there was no religion?

    Would Adolf Hitler have murdered so many people if they were just people and not Jewish as well?

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    They would just have found another reason to group like imperialism and nationalism which contributed to the first world war or political ideals like the second world war or fight over land and resources like all wars. Neither ww1 or ww2 had much to do with religion.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    No. We'd find another excuse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,288 ✭✭✭Pauliedragon


    Religion, skin colour or whatever else takes ur fancy us humans just like to beat the **** out of each other for no particular reason. I remember a cop saying to me years ago that we are pretty much the only beings on the planet that maim or kill for no apparent reason. The rest do it for food or territorial reasons. Religion is just another bullsh1t excuse.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 100,036 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Hong Xiuquan claimed to be the brother of Jesus.

    And of all humans alive at the time one in forty died.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    no. humans fight just for the sake of it at time.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,797 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    AMKC wrote: »
    Would WW1 or WW2 or any other major war in history have happened if there was no religion?

    Well.... religion was not the main drive behind these wars.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    No. Wars are tribal. Fighting for control and resources. Religion can be a trigger but if it wasnt religion it would be something else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,519 ✭✭✭✭punisher5112


    Wars are driven by greed essentially....

    Why do people attack and kill others over money in civilisation!!!

    Bullies feeding on insecurity etc etc.

    Greedy fcuks....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    AMKC wrote: »
    Would WW1 or WW2 or any other major war in history have happened if there was no religion?

    Would Adolf Hitler have murdered so many people if they were just people and not Jewish as well?

    Blaming the jews are we?

    Hitler was a racist ethno-nationalist, an idea that came in fact from a perverted form of science.

    Very few wars are solely down to religion, or difference of religion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    Nah, we would just use something other than religion to excuse fighting over resources.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,442 ✭✭✭shamrock55


    I'm convinced religion is a major cause in Alot of wars or troubles in the world


  • Posts: 18,046 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Blaming the jews are we?

    Eh wtf?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,266 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Religion, skin colour or whatever else takes ur fancy us humans just like to beat the **** out of each other for no particular reason. I remember a cop saying to me years ago that we are pretty much the only beings on the planet that maim or kill for no apparent reason. The rest do it for food or territorial reasons. Religion is just another bullsh1t excuse.

    Animals can be cnuts for no reason, killing not for food or any other gain, but for kicks.
    Nature sure as sh1t isn't a Walt Disney production.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,122 ✭✭✭BeerWolf


    Religion was used as an excuse/tool for ulterior motives...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,499 ✭✭✭✭DEFTLEFTHAND


    No, base instinct and human nature.

    We're tribal creatures, like all mammal species.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,018 ✭✭✭mikemac2


    You didn’t need to be a religious dissident to get thrown into a Soviet gulag.

    Though recently Russia jailed a Danish Jehovah Witness chap which is bizarre as they are zero political threat. They don’t take sides, they don’t even vote!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,192 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    No, base instinct and human nature.

    We're tribal creatures, like all mammal species.

    Leopards are pretty solitary, so are Polar bears.


  • Posts: 5,094 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I'm not sure about there being less wars, but there certainly would have been fewer. The intensity and endurance of many wars would undoubtedly have been less as religious conviction gave a sharper edge to many fighters. Nevertheless, the vast majority of so-called religious wars were wars of economic and political rivalry first and foremost.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭ESMITH29


    Religions provided a sense of purpose and structure to society for a lot of regions, it could've had the opposite effect but who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 253 ✭✭VicMackey1


    Animals can be cnuts for no reason, killing not for food or any other gain, but for kicks.
    Nature sure as sh1t isn't a Walt Disney production.

    I agree! Just look at a cat when it catches a mouse. They're sadastic littlle b"stards, toying with their half-dead catch for no apparent reason!

    WARNING: Splash kills cute mouse after 5 minutes of dicking about!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 633 ✭✭✭jay1988


    Blaming the jews are we?

    Hitler was a racist ethno-nationalist, an idea that came in fact from a perverted form of science.

    Very few wars are solely down to religion, or difference of religion.

    Where on earth did you get that idea from?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,161 ✭✭✭frag420


    Without religion there would have been no wars...





    ...until football was invented!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Noo


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  • Posts: 2,093 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot managed to kill millions just fine without getting religion involved. It's a devotion to an ideology that makes your followers think they are right and you are wrong and worse than dog**** rather than religion per se that is the problem. Several examples of this the recent American presidential election from BOTH SIDES.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,070 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn


    frag420 wrote: »
    Without religion there would have been no wars...





    ...until football was invented!

    There’s been only one football war.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,826 ✭✭✭randd1


    Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot managed to kill millions just fine without getting religion involved. It's a devotion to an ideology that makes your followers think they are right and you are wrong and worse than dog**** rather than religion per se that is the problem. Several examples of this the recent American presidential election from BOTH SIDES.
    Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot, and Hitler too for that matter, we’re the heads of state religions and near deified by their followers, much like Catholics and the Pope until recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,098 ✭✭✭✭Mrs OBumble


    frag420 wrote: »
    Without religion there would have been no wars...





    ...until football was invented!

    Nah, if there was no religion there could be no football.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,501 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
    Ms


    Blaming the jews are we?

    Hitler was a racist ethno-nationalist, an idea that came in fact from a perverted form of science.

    Very few wars are solely down to religion, or difference of religion.

    Blaming the jews are we?

    No I have nothing against any Jew or any one of any other religion unless they are with ISIS or something like that.

    Blaming the jews are we?

    Not at all but Adolf Hitler did and that was the reason he sent so many of them to the death camps.

    Live long and Prosper

    Peace and long life.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    AMKC wrote: »
    Would WW1 or WW2 or any other major war in history have happened if there was no religion?

    Would Adolf Hitler have murdered so many people if they were just people and not Jewish as well?

    He did. A lot of the people carted off to death camps weren't Jewish - they were everythign from gay to mentally disabled to simply not productive his vision of the Ubermensch.

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,310 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    I've often found athiest wan*ers are the ones who crap on about if there was no religion there'd be no wars.

    Idiots. All idiots. People are evil. Not religion.


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