Petrol as next car

MuddyDog · 26-04-2019 08:32AM #1

Will be buying a new car in a few months time. I do about 35,000 - 40,000 kms per year mostly on motorways. I know it should be a diesel really but just wondering if I do go petrol is there any downside on a petrol car doing that sort of mileage.

Dravokivich · 26-04-2019 08:34AM

The car isn't what you pump into it. So what are you looking at driving?

Stallingrad · 26-04-2019 08:36AM

What car are you considering? With that kind of mileage power, refinement and comfort are big considerations.

Assuming fuel costs are not an issue I'd have no issue with a decent petrol.

MuddyDog · 26-04-2019 08:41AM

An S3 is the preferred choice at present.

Stallingrad · 26-04-2019 08:52AM

MuddyDog wrote: »

An S3 is the preferred choice at present.

Assuming 2.0tfsi. While refined and quick not known for ride comfort. Offset pedals also in issue in RHD. Not sure I'd want to be spending that much time in it.

BIGT4464 · 26-04-2019 08:54AM

Try the Camry. But I would stick with Diesel for now and go electric in a few years

ciarsd · 26-04-2019 08:57AM

Ah FFS. Thread started looking for options and feedback on a petrol, namely an S3. Moments later, we're into diesel and a camry..Come on lads, that's just soul destroying and a little depressing

MuddyDog · 26-04-2019 08:58AM

Aside from comfort, no issue with putting high mileage generally on a petrol though right?!

Stallingrad · 26-04-2019 09:04AM

MuddyDog wrote: »

Aside from comfort, no issue with putting high mileage generally on a petrol though right?!

Thought the Camry post was a joke!

No, the engine can take it, but if you plan to have it for a number of years it will be very hard to sell, so prepare to loose your shirt.

drunkmonkey · 26-04-2019 09:31AM

I'm doing it in a GTi currently, it's not a massive difference between the cost of diesel and petrol if your used to a fast diesel. If you going from a Passat diesel to an S3 i'd say your feel it then.

Ludikrus · 26-04-2019 09:33AM

Stallingrad wrote: »

No, the engine can take it, but if you plan to have it for a number of years it will be very hard to sell, so prepare to loose your shirt.

Why is that? Are petrol cars not becoming more popular than they were?

shanec1928 · 26-04-2019 09:36AM

Ludikrus wrote: »

Why is that? Are petrol cars not becoming more popular than they were?

Because people generally have a heart failure with mileage north of 100k.

Stallingrad · 26-04-2019 09:36AM

Ludikrus wrote: »

Why is that? Are petrol cars not becoming more popular than they were?

They are, but after 4 years OP may have 160,000kms on it. For an S3 that will be a hard sell.

ShadowHearth · 26-04-2019 09:40AM

Ludikrus wrote: »

Why is that? Are petrol cars not becoming more popular than they were?

Petol is not an issue, The issue is no one will touch a high mileage S3 unless it's does cheap.
Then again, if OP wants S3, can afford it, does not care about resale value, then more power to him.

I do high miles is small hot hatch myself and it is getting a bit hard after about 2 years. Stuff like S3 I bigger and be more comfy so I don't think it would be an issue.

bazz26 · 26-04-2019 10:39AM

Your biggest outlays here with such a car doing those sort of miles will be fuel, maintenance and depreciation. If you can live with those things then go for it.

celtic_oz · 26-04-2019 10:50AM

dont buy new .. lectric will kill resale values quicker than u think

https://www.cargiant.co.uk/car/bmw/320i/SJ15ESK

micks_address · 26-04-2019 10:54AM

celtic_oz wrote: »

dont buy new .. lectric will kill resale values quicker than u think

https://www.cargiant.co.uk/car/bmw/320i/SJ15ESK

at the moment i'm thinking when my pcp is up next year ill be changing my 2 litre diesel dsg octavia for the petrol equivalent.. someone told me last week, you can't even order an octavia with 2 litre diesel manual any more? also they were told by dealer they couldnt quote prices as there some significant changes coming from wltp real world testing in next few months.. i thought all that was clarified already?

bazz26 · 26-04-2019 11:07AM

The current Octavia is coming to the end of it's model run but WLTP came into play before that so they had to trim back on the models, rather than from lack of demand. The VAG don't seem to have been very well prepared for WLTP as cars like the Golf have also had specs and options trimmed back.

micks_address · 26-04-2019 11:58AM

bazz26 wrote: »

The current Octavia is coming to the end of it's model run but WLTP came into play before that so they had to trim back on the models, rather than from lack of demand. The VAG don't seem to have been very well prepared for WLTP as cars like the Golf have also had specs and options trimmed back.

Off topic but when would they expect a new Octavia to be in showrooms?

bazz26 · 26-04-2019 12:01PM

New Leon/Octavia and Golf are all due by the end of this year.

micks_address · 26-04-2019 12:08PM

bazz26 wrote: »

New Leon/Octavia and Golf are all due by the end of this year.

That's cool, any info on Octavia yet?

ZiabR · 26-04-2019 12:14PM

Stallingrad wrote: »

They are, but after 4 years OP may have 160,000kms on it. For an S3 that will be a hard sell.

In fairness, Petrol or Diesel, with 160,000km on the clock, both can be hard to sell. The Irish and English are completely hung up on mileage. You go to Italy, Spain, Portugal and you will regularly find cars with 300,000km + still flying.

As long as the car is maintained correctly the engine should in theory run with ease, well above 250,000 miles. We Irish just don't see it that way. It is half the reason why clocking cars has been getting more and more popular.

Dravokivich · 26-04-2019 12:21PM

Clocking isn't done for anxiety of the next driver, its becuase lower mileage is seen as less used, so closer to new and priced to reflect that.

porsche boy · 26-04-2019 05:01PM

ZiabR wrote:

In fairness, Petrol or Diesel, with 160,000km on the clock, both can be hard to sell. The Irish and English are completely hung up on mileage. You go to Italy, Spain, Portugal and you will regularly find cars with 300,000km + still flying.

I find the idea of repairs & maintenance totally different on the continent. Cars are maintained as required and can last the distance.

In Ireland there is always the cheap mentality, don't bother with servicing until there is an engine light on and even then just do the necessities. There is this constant idea the the mechanic is just there to rip you off and so people aren't very trusting.

I have seen a car go to the scrap with less then 100k on it because it wasnt maintained properly, and the owner cursing how 'cars aren't made like they used to be'.
Complete service history for the car was 3 oil changes in a quick fit type company. Origional fuel filter, air filter & cabin filter were still in it.

minikin · 26-04-2019 05:15PM

40k is roughly 160km per day - would an ev not be ideal for this kilometerage?
(Don’t own one - just curious as to when they’re going to become the obvious choice... would it not save you loads in fuel cost?)

bazz26 · 26-04-2019 05:28PM

micks_address wrote: »

That's cool, any info on Octavia yet?

Very little over it's getting a little bigger again so that the new Scala can fit below it in the range.

bodonnell · 26-04-2019 06:27PM

Have been driving a 181 civic petrol 1.5 for the last year. have just under 38000kms done, mostly motorway. I leave it in eco mode on the motorway & am currently seeing 5.5l/100. My previous 161 tuscon 1.7 was doing 6.7/100 on the same journey.
All in all happy to be back in petrol

amen · 26-04-2019 06:39PM

ZiabR wrote: »

In fairness, Petrol or Diesel, with 160,000km on the clock, both can be hard to sell. The Irish and English are completely hung up on mileage. You go to Italy, Spain, Portugal and you will regularly find cars with 300,000km + still flying.

As long as the car is maintained correctly the engine should in theory run with ease, well above 250,000 miles. We Irish just don't see it that way. It is half the reason why clocking cars has been getting more and more popular.

I had VW Passat 1999 finally got rid with about 360,000 miles on it. ( I had it 11 years and put 310,000 miles on it)

My current Skoda Superb has about 240,000 KM on it. I hope to get up to 600,000 Km

gooner99 · 26-04-2019 11:44PM

I'd second petrol. Just about to retire our 2004 1.4 petrol golf at 247,000 miles. No issues engine wise, still starts and drives well and it didn't have an easy life. Probably could have saved on fuel over the years if it was a diesel with that kind of mileage, but mau also have been caught with diesel related problems. Changed the clutch and gear box at around 170k. Pity the windows have stopped working and the engine and abs lights are on. Can't complain though. Looking to replace it with a 06 1.4 corolla hatch with half the miles rather than take a chance on a newer diesel. Mad idea?

Mike9832 · 26-04-2019 11:53PM

Tesla Model 3 would be my choice

Probably quicker than the S3 too

Shefwedfan · 27-04-2019 08:03AM

Buy the petrol, just keep a good service record and people won’t care about high mileage once you can show a strong service history

Petrol as next car

Comments