Avengers: Endgame [ SPOILERS FROM POST 613 ]

Drumpot · 25-04-2019 03:37AM

Do not read spoilers if you Haven’t seen movie!!!!

Biggest cheer in cinema I was at was when

cap uses Thor’s hammer

Think I might have to see it again before judging. I enjoyed it but after 6 hours of avengers in the cinema, I’m still sweaty, only getting home and a bit

sad that iron man and the Cap are retired

McDermotX · 25-04-2019 03:40AM

When good, it's very good, but has more than a few eye rolling moments that just stick in the craw.
Certainly has pacing issues, especially compared to Infinity War, with a flabby midsection (pun intended) bookended by a strong opening and a racous final third. That's not to say that there isn't a lot of joy to be found, even in the meat of the middle, but nostalgic trips aside, it suffers a wee bit in a pedestrian sense. Trim 20mins in a few places and it's flow would probably work a bit better, even if it meant sidelining secondary character narrative, it'd probably be a good trade.
Don't want to come across overly down on it, as I enjoyed large parts of it......Some good performances from the expected originals, funny (overly for some probably), dramatic, action-packed, a different take on the nature of

time-travel

etc, with a satisfying ending with closure and beginning both served.

Solid 7/10 next to Infinity War's 8/10 IMO, with both complimenting each other well, but Endgame probably lacks the dramatic impact of the previous movie at first watch.

Awesomeness · 25-04-2019 03:45AM

Simply perfect

brevity · 25-04-2019 03:47AM

Ave Sodalis wrote: »

Did anyone else really like the post credit bit? There's no post credit scene, and everyone else in the screening seemed to think it was a big disappointment/didn't catch it, but I thought it was very nicely done.

the hammer sounds?

flazio · 25-04-2019 03:49AM

Dammit, I heard there was nothing and once the signatures were finished I left.
Did I really miss something?

Cotts72 · 25-04-2019 03:51AM

That was unreal! Loved every minute of it!

that battle scene isnstill givinf me goosebumps

RickBlaine · 25-04-2019 04:01AM

I almost never go to midnight screenings but I'm so glad I did for this. Amazing film. Here are some generic spoiler-free thoughts:

- It is genuinely impressive how this film manages to conclude a 22 film narrative with dozens of characters without the script descending into a mess. It really was a Herculean task. But they have completely succeed.

- It may be three hours but wow, the time flew. I looked at my watch at the 2 hour mark and the remaining time felt like 10 minutes. I'd also struggle to see what they could trim. Every scene feels needed and serves some purpose.

- It is hugely entertaining, funny, exciting and poignant - just like all the best MCU movies.

- It also doesn't treat the audience like fools.

- I'd say a decent knowledge of the MCU is required to get the most out of the movie (which is only fair). Some of the film's best and most memorable moments draws on knowledge of events from past movies throughout the series. But this just confirms that the MCU is basically like a Netflix show except each episode is a multimillion dollar movie.

- One of my criticisms of Infinity War was the end battle which felt too chaotic and unstructured from a narrative viewpoint, which is why I preferred the smaller scale fight on Titan as there was a clear objective. No problem with Endgame, all the action serves a definite discrete purpose.

- There are loads of crowdpleasing moments ranging from just a whisper into someone's ear to the use of cool weapons.

- It would have been very unfortunate for Marvel to drop the ball for their Infinity saga finale, but they actually exceeded my expectations. I can't imagine a better conclusion to such an expansive series. There may be massive CGI battles but it never looses its heart.

- This does not reveal any plot details but describes how the audience reacted. I'll put it in spoiler tags just in case

I've never heard so much sobbing and crying in a screening since the ending of Wall-E

.

Everyone involved in crafting this movie should be thoroughly proud of themselves. It is an amazing achievement. Audiences couldn't ask for anything more. I remember when The Dark Night came out, people were saying it is a great movie that also happens to be a comic book movie. Exactly the same is true with Endgame.

Ave Sodalis · 25-04-2019 04:07AM

brevity wrote: »

the hammer sounds?

Yup, exactly!

it wraps the entire thing up nicely, whilst giving a lovely tribute to where it all really began with the first Iron Man movie

RickBlaine · 25-04-2019 04:09AM

McDermotX wrote: »

Solid 7/10 next to Infinity War's 8/10 IMO, with both complimenting each other well, but Endgame probably lacks the dramatic impact of the previous movie at first watch.

Actually I think Stark's death was equal to the dramatic impact of Infinity War, if not more so. What struck me about that moment is that is wasn't sanitized. When he was dying, he didn't get a chance to say goodbye in person to Pepper or Peter. It wasn't like Spock's death speech for example. Instead, Tony was completely shell shocked. A man most famous for his verbal verbosity unable to speak. It showed the seriousness of his injury, the cost of his sacrifice and the ugliness of death. Really impactful and loads of people in my screening where sobbing quite loudly.

McDermotX · 25-04-2019 04:27AM

RickBlaine wrote: »

Actually I think Stark's death was equal to the dramatic impact of Infinity War, if not more so. What struck me about that moment is that is wasn't sanitized. When he was dying, he didn't get a chance to say goodbye in person to Pepper or Peter. It wasn't like Spock's death speech for example. Instead, Tony was completely shell shocked. A man most famous for his verbal verbosity unable to speak. It showed the seriousness of his injury, the cost of his sacrifice and the ugliness of death. Really impactful and loads of people in my screening where sobbing quite loudly.

Didn't actually have a problem with how his sacrifice was handled, predictable as it was, it was well played out following a fitting reunion with Peter Parker.
But even still, a post-script from Stark was still required for the audience.

That said, it was well played out, as was the character work

around his daughter, though less sucessful for me was the meeting with his father, and the less said about Pepper's introduction on the battlefield the better (sometimes it's best to leave the comic books in the store as opposed to the big-screen), but again, it was the only way to get her present for the fateful moment.

Bit ham-fisted in that regard for me, but nothing terminal.

IncognitoMan · 25-04-2019 04:27AM

As endings go and considering this is putting a full stop on 11 years of movies. I think they bloody did it. For the most part.

I have a few cringe moments and Captain Marvel seems like she is a magnet for them but overall for what it needed to achieve. It does it.

So I was against them doing time travel simply because it opens the door to solving too many problems but I think they addressed and covered it pretty well. Firstly in that they need the stuff from Hank Pim I forget it's name to move around in time but also because Tony Stark is key to them getting it right.

I'm sad to see the end of Tony but this is a good way for him to bow out. I liked the moment he has with his father.

I like that Cap gets to go back and live the life he always wanted.

Was surprised at black widow dying, I thought we were for sure getting a solo movie.

The threat Thanos carried on Earth given what we seen him do before was huge. I thought he was definitely killing Cap.

My mind is a bit scrambled right now and it's hard to process all I've seen tonight. All I'll leave anyone reading this with who hasn't seen.

Try to stay off Twitter. Try to see when you can.

There's a few words that you could say that would spoil the whole thing so I'm sure there will be a few idiots who try it.

Edit: also no end credits. There's some nice effects where they show some artwork and the avengers actors signatures. It's nicely done and after the hectic nature of what you just watched it's nice to sit and relax.

Slydice · 25-04-2019 04:30AM

Just back from 3D IMAX in Cineworld.

Big Screen: Yes, do this!
3D: some but you can live without.
Kids rating: I'd say this is a hard 12A.

This film was great! It was huge! It must have cost a fortune!
It rockets along from start to finish. It can be watched without the previous films but all the previous films are of benefit with nods all round.

The start: Starting with

Hawkeye and showing the impact on his family felt like the right choice. It set the story right for what was to come.

The story: That was only massive!

It was hard to shake the idea that Iron Man and Cap were gonna be key players. I felt the biggest hints to Starks fate was the conversation with Potts after putting the kid to bed.
Notable wins for me included:
- The EPIC HUGE battle before, during and after all the portals opened up
- The elevator scene
- Including so much of the previous cast. Only Hugo Weaving the big absense but infinity war put in some groundwork for expecting that.
- They did the start showing impact of what Thanos did really well.
- Cap catching the Hammer was kinda cool!
- Working out the Soul Stone. That was done well. Poor aul Clint had to deal with some mad amount of loss in this film.
While I'm sure someone will pick out some continuity mistakes at a later point, this felt just fine and like it had considered and included enough.

The ending: Well, that

felt like it wrapped up some stories (notably Iron Man and Captain American) really well. It's not every film, film franchise or tv show that can figure out how to pull something like that off. Then it set up to continue others (obviously Black Panther and Captain Marvel). Though some open questions about the Films and TV shows to come like.. the ones with Vision and Black Widow.

Thor and the Guardians in a next film!?! That could be cool!

Also.. where'd the Hammer that Cap took with him to the past go?

Gah, there was just so much in the film!!!

But Finally.. almost MOST IMPORTANTLY:

Hail Hydra!

ILikeBoats · 25-04-2019 08:19AM

Well.
I thought I was ready. I wasn't.

- Not sure if I enjoyed the time travel bits. I'll need to rewatch.
- Cap with Mjolinor - audible yelps from our crowd, and maybe me. Brilliant stuff
- The fight scene - when the portals opened. Just wow.
- Close to tears a few time - tony & peter, tony dying etc
- KORG

:D:D
- Cannot wait for Asgardians of the Galaxy
- Surprised Nick Fury had such a small part
- Only just realised Cap gave mjolinor back to past Thor
- I've devoted a lot of hours watching and rewatching all of these. I'm not sure I'm ready to give up Cap and Tony

I'm still processing
Great movie. Very well done and nicely tied up

horgan_p · 25-04-2019 08:20AM

I felt like that was the conclusion of Kevin Feige's love letter to that aspect of the MCU.
What an amazing film, and when watched as 2 halves of a whole movie it still works.

Does anyone else think that they'd be as happy if Marvel split off mutants into their own multiverse ? Its getting harder to give all the characters their own beats. Even in Endgame that last battle could easily have gone another 10 minutes to give some characters a bit of breathing space.

For what its worth I think that Spiderman: FFH is set after homecoming but before Infinity War.

Cookie_Monster · 25-04-2019 08:29AM

who was was the guy standing in front of Maria hill and gen Rossat the funeral?

horgan_p · 25-04-2019 08:31AM

There were a few odd additions - I was sure I saw the kid from Iron Man 3

circadian · 25-04-2019 08:33AM

Can a mod tag this thread with spoilers please?

Baggly · 25-04-2019 08:33AM

Lads spoiler tag everything.

ILikeBoats · 25-04-2019 08:40AM

Cookie_Monster wrote: »

who was was the guy standing in front of Maria hill and gen Rossat the funeral?

The kid with the shed from Iron Man 3

Beric Dondarrion · 25-04-2019 08:57AM

Wow! went to the midnight show in my hometown last night (double bill with Infinity War).

Some absoultely great humour in this

"You OK Lebowski", "I thought you were a build-a-bear"

and some stand out feel good moments

Cap taking up Thor's Hammer:)

Still think Infinity War has the edge over this one but that's not to take anything away from what I just saw on the screen. A fitting end to the entire 10 year MCU "Infinity Saga".

I also really enjoyed the scenes with Thor and his mother on Asgard. The Dark World is not looked on too favorably in the MCU but these few scenes do their best to add a bit of emotional heft to what Thor actually lost in that movie IMHO

flazio · 25-04-2019 09:13AM

One small disappointment for me was (TV series spoilers)

Aside from a small cameo for Mr. Jarvis, very little of the TV series' was represented here. It wouldn't have taken much to perhaps see Daisy quake up an alien, or Lock Jaw running around in the final battle, maybe even give the Iron Fist one last chance to show us that glowing bullet trick he learned.

At the very least, they should have tried to work something of Coulson into the film, even if it was maybe just some archive footage from a S.H.I.E.L.D. file from before the Battle of New York. His character appears to have finally died, even on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. although that might not be the end of him there from any teasers I've seen, it'll be interesting to see where that goes from here.

LGadd14 · 25-04-2019 09:36AM

Went to the midnight showing in IMAX and it ranks among my top 3 favourite cinema experiences. The crowd were awesome, think they broke into applause 5-6 times.
The first two acts of Endgame boast scenes that would be the highlights of any other movie, maybe even those in the MCU. The third act completely overshadows those moments though, that last 30 minutes was the kind of stuff you could only dream of.

RickBlaine · 25-04-2019 09:37AM

Not a spoiler at all, but there is a scene early in the movie that reminded me so much of Jeff Treacy from Thunderbirds. Fans of that show should know it when they see it.

PTH2009 · 25-04-2019 10:24AM

They kept the thor thing quite in promos etc

Sappy404 · 25-04-2019 10:59AM

I think I was more giddy for those 3 hours than any other movie experience I've had since I was a kid. Maybe ever. Incredibly fun, absolutely satisfying, and mindblowing that they achieved it on this kind of scale.

ILikeBoats · 25-04-2019 11:05AM

Was every bit of that planned out since Iron Man?
Was it a rough framework and plot? And they filled in the dialogue etc as each movie came around?

MisterDrak · 25-04-2019 11:06AM

Great bit :

That elevator scene ! Great to see that Frank Grillo is still hitting the Gym hard !

Another Great bit :

Homage to the 360 tracking shot in the original Avengers NY battle

Still more :

Quill intro from GoTG

Small disappointment :

Thanos not given enough guile and heft. Not as much as Infinity War anyway.

branie2 · 25-04-2019 11:10AM

I'll see it tomorrow

McDermotX · 25-04-2019 11:15AM

Biggest disappointment -

who the f*ck brings loads of food , especially loud stuff like crisps (multiple bags I might add) to a midnight showing and then proceeds to stuff their face right up to the last third of the film ?

Baggly · 25-04-2019 11:19AM

McDermotX wrote: »

Biggest disappointment -
who the f*ck brings loads of food , especially loud stuff like crisps (multiple bags I might add) to a midnight showing and then proceeds to stuff their face right up to the last third of the film ?

Thanos.

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