Estate horses, should they be taken in by councils?

Kermit.de.frog · 12-04-2019 05:05PM #1

Anyone agree that all of these horses on random housing estates and beside main roads (often tied to poles) should be rounded up and taken in to care?

Saw a number of them this evening near Coolock and it's tragic. They are abused.

Does anyone know is a similar situation allowed in estates in the UK, for example? Or is this a distinctly Irish phenomenon?

whisky_galore · 12-04-2019 05:15PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Anyone agree that all of these horses on random housing estates and beside main roads (often tied to poles) should be rounded up and taken in to care?

Saw a number of them this evening near Coolock and it's tragic. They are abused.

Does anyone know is a similar situation allowed in estates in the UK, for example? Or is this a distinctly Irish phenomenon?

Or turned into glue. Whatever. Put them out of their misery.
Most are near worthless nags.

The pretence that a horse is a suitable household "pet", like a hamster or a gerbil, without the owners providing suitable facilities, has to be knocked on the head.

Atoms for Peace · 12-04-2019 05:31PM

The army ranger snipers should put them out of their misery.

orourkeda1977 · 12-04-2019 05:33PM

Irelands favourite minority?

Surely not.

They embody community spirit and are the people we all want to be.

They wouldnt harm a horse in such a way

SEPT 23 1989 · 12-04-2019 05:33PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Or turned into glue. Whatever. Put them out of their misery.
Most are near worthless nags.

The pretence that a horse is a suitable household "pet", like a hamster or a gerbil, without the owners providing suitable facilities, has to be knocked on the head.

No animal is worthless

Knine · 12-04-2019 05:34PM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

The army ranger snipers should put them out of their misery.

And their 'owners' at the same time

Atoms for Peace · 12-04-2019 05:34PM

If it isn't stables, it's motorbike tracks you can never have enough facilities for the "disadvantaged".

DEFTLEFTHAND · 12-04-2019 05:35PM

It's the people who are selling them to 14 year olds who need to be investigated.

That Smithfield horse fair is rife with this type of thing.

whisky_galore · 12-04-2019 05:35PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

No animal is worthless

Go and adopt one so.

They sure as sh1t won't win a Grand National.

Del2005 · 12-04-2019 06:20PM

orourkeda1977 wrote: »

Irelands favourite minority?

Surely not.

They embody community spirit and are the people we all want to be.

They wouldnt harm a horse in such a way

Unfortunately not only them, the non minority are as bad in some places.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

No animal is worthless

Anything is only worth what someone is willing to pay and I doubt these people are spending big money on the animal so it is worthless. The worse is the way they treat the poor animals, no shelter or water, death would be better.

BeerWolf · 12-04-2019 06:21PM

I hate them. Not the horses, but the trash that owns them. Poor things are treated like ****, and said trash don't care if they end up killing them. ISPCA should take all of them off their hands...

Your Face · 12-04-2019 06:30PM

Unfortunately I don't see where the council could place them.
It's an fairly expensive outlay to properly look after a horse.
They might have to be put down.

Force Carrier · 12-04-2019 06:37PM

Your Face wrote: »

Unfortunately I don't see where the council could place them.
It's an fairly expensive outlay to properly look after a horse.
They might have to be put down.

The Council do take them. Just on too small a scale.

The job is let out to some lads down the country who drive up with a box and pick up a stray horse. Sometimes leads to confrontations.

There also seems to be an approach that if a horse is being 'looked after' then it is not considered stray. By rights no horse should be allowed in any urban area in any circumstances.

Fr_Dougal · 12-04-2019 06:46PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Go and adopt one so.

They sure as sh1t won't win a Grand National.

Well they won’t with that attitude!

El_Bee · 12-04-2019 07:11PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Anyone agree that all of these horses on random housing estates and beside main roads (often tied to poles) should be rounded up and taken in to care?

Saw a number of them this evening near Coolock and it's tragic. They are abused.

Does anyone know is a similar situation allowed in estates in the UK, for example? Or is this a distinctly Irish phenomenon?

Insanity, pure insanity that this practice has continued on into the 21st century, what thoughts go through people's heads giving large animals like horses to children to look after, insane I can't wrap my head around it.

EmmetSpiceland · 12-04-2019 07:12PM

We were never poor enough to own a horse.

bri007 · 12-04-2019 07:15PM

Require a license to own a dog, I know a dog can bite etc but surely a horse can be dangerous if they are in fields etc where children could get a kick of one?

Always baffled me that no license was needed. I feel sorry for the poor horses awful way to be left.

mloc123 · 12-04-2019 07:18PM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

We were never poor enough to own a horse.

Overheard a 7-8yr old kid this week... 200e saved, needs another 100e to buy his horse. Assume feed, vet etc... Will be all free after that. Poor horse.

MrFresh · 12-04-2019 07:23PM

They are often seized around Dublin. Council contract a pound to do it and they go with the Gardaí in the middle of the night to seize loose ones. Not done regularly enough though.

Speedsie · 12-04-2019 07:26PM

bri007 wrote: »

Require a license to own a dog, I know a dog can bite etc but surely a horse can be dangerous if they are in fields etc where children could get a kick of one?

Always baffled me that no license was needed. I feel sorry for the poor horses awful way to be left.

Control of Horses act 1996 requires licenses in certain areas. Not widely observed though.

http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1996/act/37/section/17/enacted/en/html#sec17

Jimbob1977 · 12-04-2019 07:32PM

There are horses tethered to trees within 200 yards of Limerick railway station.

You can imagine the scene.

Horses, scramblers, quad bikes, people in grey tracksuits with one hand down their pants.

I'd say Limerick Animal Welfare are very busy

kowloon · 12-04-2019 09:13PM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

Horses, scramblers, quad bikes, people in grey tracksuits with one hand down their pants.

Why always grey?

pablo128 · 12-04-2019 09:16PM

For fcuks sake we can't even look after our homeless and you want the council to look after de horses too?:pac::pac:

Kermit.de.frog · 12-04-2019 09:17PM

kowloon wrote: »

Why always grey?

Any attempt at style uses too much brain mater? It could literally hurt them.

El_Bee · 12-04-2019 09:24PM

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Any attempt at style uses too much brain mater? It could literally hurt them.

now now they wear those puffer jackets too, and those motorcycle masks that go around you mouth and nose, they're very popular with the kids these days

Silver Breeze · 12-04-2019 10:15PM

Here is a fun story...

In 1975 I was living with friends in a house on Lanahrone Avenue, Corbally, Limerick. The estate had no hedgerows, so all front lawns ran into the neighbour's lawn. I was up early, A Sunday morning, ready to take friends for a drive to Clare. Drinking coffee and looking out the front window, I spotted a battered lad rover with a battered horsebox trailer. hey stopped across the road, two fellows hopped out and led two hobbled horses out of the box and onto our lawn. I went out and said: "You can't do that" and they said "**** off" and drove away. Leaving the horses to graze in the front lawn.

I found some twine in the kitchen, tied it to the two horses, and led them down the street and around the corner to the home of Dessie O'Msalley, TD. He had been justice minister in a previous government, but lost out to Cosgrave et al.

I tied the two horses to Dessies front door knocker (remember, front doors open inwards.) and legged it back home and drove away.

Roll on 30 years and at a function I asked him "Do you remember..." He laughed and said the Guards made sure never happened again.

GreeBo · 12-04-2019 10:20PM

kowloon wrote: »

Why always grey?

They don't all start out grey...

YFlyer · 12-04-2019 10:27PM

Silver Breeze wrote: »

Here is a fun story...

In 1975 I was living with friends in a house on Lanahrone Avenue, Corbally, Limerick. The estate had no hedgerows, so all front lawns ran into the neighbour's lawn. I was up early, A Sunday morning, ready to take friends for a drive to Clare. Drinking coffee and looking out the front window, I spotted a battered lad rover with a battered horsebox trailer. hey stopped across the road, two fellows hopped out and led two hobbled horses out of the box and onto our lawn. I went out and said: "You can't do that" and they said "**** off" and drove away. Leaving the horses to graze in the front lawn.

I found some twine in the kitchen, tied it to the two horses, and led them down the street and around the corner to the home of Dessie O'Msalley, TD. He had been justice minister in a previous government, but lost out to Cosgrave et al.

I tied the two horses to Dessies front door knocker (remember, front doors open inwards.) and legged it back home and drove away.

Roll on 30 years and at a function I asked him "Do you remember..." He laughed and said the Guards made sure never happened again.

Willie would have shot them.

YFlyer · 12-04-2019 10:29PM

Jimbob1977 wrote: »

There are horses tethered to trees within 200 yards of Limerick railway station.

You can imagine the scene.

Horses, scramblers, quad bikes, people in grey tracksuits with one hand down their pants.

I'd say Limerick Animal Welfare are very busy

Horses also along the Childers road.

YFlyer · 12-04-2019 10:33PM

whisky_galore wrote: »

Go and adopt one so.

They sure as sh1t won't win a Grand National.

From the Shargar program last week. If they have hair on their hoofs, they're not racing horses.

Kermit.de.frog · 13-04-2019 12:41PM

They don't look in any condition to walk really never mind race.

Estate horses, should they be taken in by councils?

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