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Al Porter Scandal

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  • #2162
    Farawayhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Farawayhome


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    Can't find any that suggests such a bias? So, no, I think that is a perfectly irrational accusation plucked out of the air. Lesson is don't make such a statement if you can't back it up with evidence. That is the whole premise of accusations, actually having proof you can rely on. You shouldn't have to expect those who refute such a strong statement to find non proof. It makes no sense?

    And once again, stop using the word rape here.

    You obviously didn't look it up. You can't blame me for your laziness.

    Stop putting the word rape in your posts.


  • #2163
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    LateLateShow wrote: »
    Look, nobody has the full story. So you're also making the assumption that it's not bad. I think a case study on rape is fair to use as a representation of sexual assault, considering they are very similar things.

    You have missed the gist of the conversation here going by that reply.


  • #2164
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Farawayhome wrote: »
    You obviously didn't look it up. You can't blame me for your laziness.

    Stop putting the word rape in your posts.

    Look what up exactly? What exactly am I meant to be looking up here?? There are billions of articles on rape cases! Am I supposed to seep through them to find that your statement has reason to it!
    I wouldn't be questioning such an accusation if I believed it exists!! So what exactly am I meant to look up? It is like you saying aliens exist, me refuting it and you saying are too lazy to look up proof that they exist! It is you wh0o made the accusation! The whole premise of making an accusation is to be able to prove it exists!


  • #2165
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    LateLateShow wrote: »
    Hmm, you're using similar tactics to Al Porter. I'm becoming increasingly concerned that you may indeed be him.

    What the hell are you on about!

    You are completely missing what the conversation here is about! The poster said that men are more likely to defend straight men rather than gay men in sexual assault cases. It is not even about Al Porter, it is a general side debate.


  • #2166
    Farawayhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Farawayhome


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    Look what up exactly? What exactly am I meant to be looking up here?? There are billions of articles on rape cases! Am I supposed to seep through them to find that your statement has reason to it!
    I wouldn't be questioning such an accusation if I believed it exists!! So what exactly am I meant to look up? It is like you saying aliens exist, me refuting it and you saying are too lazy to look up proof that they exist! It is you wh0o made the accusation! The whole premise of making an accusation is to be able to prove it exists!

    Look up numerous men defending rapists and rapey behaviour in famous cases. Then look up this case and you won't see that many. I can't make it any easier for you. Don't be lazy.


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  • #2167
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Mod

    Farawayhome, your next post better either be a retraction of the obvious insinuation you are making or some kind of non-circumstantial proof.


  • #2168
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,380 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    No charges, no settlements, no crime.


  • #2169
    The Talking Bread
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 ✭✭✭✭The Talking Bread


    Farawayhome wrote: »
    Look up numerous men defending rapists and rapey behaviour in famous cases. Then look up this case and you won't see that many. I can't make it any easier for you. Don't be lazy.

    You are the lazy one. Surely if you knew such evidence exists, you would have access to it! What am I meant to google "men are more likely to defend straight men than gay men in sexual assault cases? Ok, I'll try, google is powerful, it should be immediately able to give some some sort of offering on such a statement.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=men+are+more+likely+to+defend+straight+men+than+gay+men+in+sexual+assault+cases%3F&rlz=1C1VFKB_enIE686IE686&oq=men+are+more+likely+to+defend+straight+men+than+gay+men+in+sexual+assault+cases%3F&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    You can't offer any proof at all. Just your opinion. Until you can, such an allegation is completely devoid of proof and, hence, merit. Educate me,


  • #2170
    Farawayhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Farawayhome


    Pter wrote: »
    Mod

    Farawayhome, your next post better either be a retraction of the obvious insinuation you are making or some kind of non-circumstantial proof.

    I'm insinuating that some men were defending cases like a famous rugby one and soccer one's but these same men would not be defending Porter. What's wrong with that?


  • #2171
    smurgen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    No charges, no settlements, no crime.

    #I believe him


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  • #2172
    Farawayhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Farawayhome


    The Talking Bread wrote: »
    You are the lazy one. Surely if you knew such evidence exists, you would have access to it! What am I meant to google "men are more likely to defend straight men than gay men in sexual assault cases? Ok, I'll try, google is powerful, it should be immediately able to give some some sort of offering on such a statement.

    https://www.google.com/search?q=men+are+more+likely+to+defend+straight+men+than+gay+men+in+sexual+assault+cases%3F&rlz=1C1VFKB_enIE686IE686&oq=men+are+more+likely+to+defend+straight+men+than+gay+men+in+sexual+assault+cases%3F&aqs=chrome..69i57&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

    You can't offer any proof at all. Just your opinion. Until you can, such an allegation is completely devoid of proof.

    Stop making excuses for your laziness. I've explained it repeatedly now.


  • #2173
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Mod

    Farawayhome, don't post in this thread again.


  • #2174
    Farawayhome
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,083 ✭✭✭Farawayhome


    <snip>

    Pter, don't post in this thread again.


  • #2175
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Farawayhome wrote: »
    <snip>

    Pter, don't post in this thread again.

    Lol


  • #2176
    Dante7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭Dante7


    Ash.J.Williams wrote: »
    No charges, no settlements, no crime.

    Taken straight from the rapist's playbook. Less than 3% of rapes or crimes of sexual assault result in a conviction. So therefore the other 97% weren't crimes or didn't happen?


  • #2177
    Baggly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Taken straight from the rapist's playbook. Less than 3% of rapes or crimes of sexual assault result in a conviction. So therefore the other 97% weren't crimes or didn't happen?

    Mod

    Dante7, take the same suggestion I gave farawayhome.

    We live in a society where crimes have to be tried, proven and ajudicated. It may not be a perfect system but it's what we have.

    Making insinuations of guilt like the above isnt something that can be discussed. Because you don't have a basis for the above applying in this case.

    Please take the suggestion you thanked earlier. Show some proof or stop making insinuations. It's not helping the discussion.


  • #2178
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cazzer22 wrote: »
    When you're talking about a subject such a suicide, who are you to say whether the person actually experienced suicidal thoughts or not? or dealt with anxiety or depression? You seem to be incredibly non sympathetic and assume that everyone is jumping on a bandwagon. I agree, some are. It's not 'nonsense'. This is the exact reason people keep quiet about the topic. Please read 'Me and My Mate Jeffrey' and then I'll be interested to hear your thoughts.

    Dont assume I havent experienced mental health issues just because I think Porter will go to any lengths to revive a media career that he rightfully lost.

    I'm in a strong position to call bull**** on Porter given his past antics. He has proven himself to be a conniving, nasty bully and he is responsible for inflicting mental suffering on other people across an extended period of time. I am sympathetic to those he targeted who, as it happens, are not tweeting away trying to make a career out of what went on.

    If media producers are going to make content about depression, I would rather hear from a sufferer who is not simultaneously trying to revive a career on RTE after spending years bullying and harassing people.

    Like I said, let the man learn from his mistakes and move on, but he has no place on television and he certainly should not be portrayed as the voice of people living with mental illness (it wouldnt surprise me if that is the aim here)


  • #2179
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,380 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Dante7 wrote: »
    Taken straight from the rapist's playbook. Less than 3% of rapes or crimes of sexual assault result in a conviction. So therefore the other 97% weren't crimes or didn't happen?

    Are you suggesting I'm working from a rapist playbook?


  • #2180
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 7,713 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He was about as funny as a brain hemorrhage anyway..


  • #2181
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,718 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    fryup wrote: »
    and Lysett is any different???? c'mon all gay comedians do crude innuendo jokes....Norton, Carr, Lucas, Clary etc etc
    They really don't.
    Have you watched Joe lycetts stand up?
    In all honesty very little of it is innuendo,or crude.
    Or read his book, it's mostly about winding people up.
    There are plenty of generally none crude gay comedians e.g. Ellen or Simon amstell.

    Al Porter's comedy was always incredibly broad, OTT crude rubbish, seriously horrendously dated guff. It was like Kenneth Williams from a carry on film without the great comic timing and added crudeness.
    He is no big loss imo.

    I'd heard rumours over the years about him being a bit let's say 'handsy' I am glad it all came out, his statement 'it was in keeping with my flamboyant personality' was disgusting, his career imo is over.


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  • #2182
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 3,280 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Tweeting bits of my posts now. Edited to suit the victim agenda of course.

    Good man Al. You'll get loads of sympathy now. You'll be back on the Late Late in no time.

    How do you know we've never met!?


  • #2183
    Ursus Horribilis
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,168 ✭✭✭Ursus Horribilis


    Obviously it's easier to play the victim than to 'fess up to what he "allegedly" did. I don't doubt that he has been in very dark places but I for one would respect the man far more if he just came clean. Properly. Until he does, there will always be that blight on his reputation.


  • #2184
    c.p.w.g.w
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,990 ✭✭✭c.p.w.g.w


    The media have seemed to go soft on Al very fast, yet plenty of other men who are accused of doing similar don't get the same treatment...Obviously male victims are less victimy than female victims


  • #2185
    Ash.J.Williams
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,380 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    c.p.w.g.w wrote: »
    The media have seemed to go soft on Al very fast, yet plenty of other men who are accused of doing similar don't get the same treatment...Obviously male victims are less victimy than female victims

    Because he's late late show material :)


  • #2186
    donkeykong5
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,259 ✭✭✭donkeykong5


    Hes saying on Twitter how great he found pieta house.


  • #2187
    ToddyDoody
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,419 ✭✭✭ToddyDoody


    ObamaIsBlack wrote: »
    IF he actually is a predator then it would be a great place alright.

    Then there's the question of whether he's more of a top or a bottom.


  • #2188
    BettePorter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭BettePorter


    I've forgotten what the story was. Did he admit to touching people inappropriately /assaulting ppl. .. or was it a Joe Biden kinda vibe he admitted to.

    I hated him as the character Al porter ..... vomit inducing postcard humour. But I saw him one night on Brendan o Connor I think it was and he came across as being someone who could potentially have gone further in media than that 'oooh are mrs' scthick.

    He seriously ****ed up. In his behaviour. .. and how he reacted to its exposure.
    He could have redeemed himself long ago.


  • #2189
    CollyFlower
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,414 ✭✭✭CollyFlower


    He's soo 80s, why any TV/radio show would want him is beyond me.


  • #2190
    TCM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭TCM


    c.p.w.g.w wrote:
    The media have seemed to go soft on Al very fast, yet plenty of other men who are accused of doing similar don't get the same treatment...Obviously male victims are less victimy than female victims


    Some examples please of these "other men" you say you know had similar accusations made against them.


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  • #2191
    BettePorter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,257 ✭✭✭BettePorter


    ObamaIsBlack wrote: »
    Welp, he just deleted all tweets from the past 2 weeks. Guilt?

    He's his own worst enemy. Who is advising him? If he just came out on the likes of late late (not with tubs tho) and said look I'm feckin eejit with a few drinks and I've seriously
    ****ed up. No jokes ... no innuendo ...Ive just read the situs way wrong and acted completely out of order . He'd be better served than all this going to ground then spouting the victim ****e every few months then deleting and disappearing again. Rinse repeat. Come out and say you ****ed up . Not this mealy mouthed ****e.


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