What is or should be the punishment for racism?

Yer Da sells Avon · 07-04-2019 09:46AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote: »

Seen on tweeter some fella sent Stan collymore a Nasty message, imedietley people found his Facebook, emailed his mother, his work, his mates ECT. I find it weird that random people emailing his mother an work place, but what should punishment be for this fella

Emailing someone's mother about their racism is a great idea. Although my mother is dead, so I can be as racist as I want.

Junkyard Tom · 07-04-2019 09:48AM

Spleerbun wrote: »

Put what up?

You giving Black people advice on how to feel about racism. It'd be fierce interesting like.

Spleerbun · 07-04-2019 09:50AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

You giving Black people advice on how to feel about racism. It'd be fierce interesting like.

Is there any part of my post that you'd actually like to dispute? Are you black btw? As you seem to know better than me how they should feel.

Day Lewin · 07-04-2019 09:53AM

Racism isn't only against colour.

Indeed, traditionally in Ireland very few people of other colour were ever seen: people with dark skin are relatively a new thing, here.

Worst and most glaring racism in Ireland is against Travellers: just read the posts on boards if Travellers are even mentioned!

and no, you can NOT excuse racism by claiming that it's justified!

Punishment: live on a halting site, wrong accent, try to get a job.

Danzy · 07-04-2019 09:53AM

Spleerbun wrote: »

Is there any part of my post that you'd actually like to dispute? Are you black btw? As you seem to know better than me how they should feel.

Maybe Tom hasn't told people what to feel or not feel yet, give him the benefit of the doubt.

Pissartist · 07-04-2019 09:53AM

We as Irish are stereotyped as drunken potato eating drunks, why because there's some truth to it, unfortunately blacks can be stereotyped of other things, I know a lot of women who won't get in a taxi with one for example

Junkyard Tom · 07-04-2019 09:56AM

Spleerbun wrote: »

Is there any part of my post that you'd actually like to dispute?

All of it - it's all ridiculous.

Are you black btw?

No.

As you seem to know better than me how they should feel.

No sweetie, you're the one telling people to 'just laugh it off' not me.

kneemos · 07-04-2019 09:58AM

Pissartist wrote: »

We as Irish are stereotyped as drunken potato eating drunks, why because there's some truth to it, unfortunately blacks can be stereotyped of other things, I know a lot of women who won't get in a taxi with one for example

Stereotypes have some truth behind them often.
To say all Irish people are drunk potatoe eaters,or to assume an individual is,or to use it in a derogatory manner is racist.

Spleerbun · 07-04-2019 10:00AM

Junkyard Tom wrote: »

All of it - it's all ridiculous.

No.

No sweetie, you're the one telling people to 'just laugh it off' not me.

Kindly note the distinction between telling them what they "should do" and what they "could do", my dear fellow honky. Imagine how empowering that would be, robbing the racists of the power of their words just by changing your mindset! Wouldn't that be impressive sweetie?

07-04-2019 10:07AM

I was racially abused once, it caught me completely off guard and was so weird we just ignored it, but afterwards I always felt I should have gone after him and called him out on it, so I'm going to say a light beating is acceptable

dxhound2005 · 07-04-2019 10:15AM

Spleerbun wrote: »

Kindly note the distinction between telling them what they "should do" and what they "could do", my dear fellow honky. Imagine how empowering that would be, robbing the racists of the power of their words just by changing your mindset! Wouldn't that be impressive sweetie?

Very impressive. But meanwhile in the real world punish lawbreakers instead of expecting their victims to laugh it off.

Billy Mays · 07-04-2019 10:16AM

You should've just laughed it off

@ riffmongous

BeerWolf · 07-04-2019 10:20AM

Day Lewin wrote: »

Racism isn't only against colour.

Indeed, traditionally in Ireland very few people of other colour were ever seen: people with dark skin are relatively a new thing, here.

Worst and most glaring racism in Ireland is against Travellers: just read the posts on boards if Travellers are even mentioned!

and no, you can NOT excuse racism by claiming that it's justified!

Punishment: live on a halting site, wrong accent, try to get a job.

It is justified when they're all a bunch of crooks. Or self-centered assholes that couldn't give a damn of people outside their circle, being a public nuisance be it holding traffic with their bloody trotters or littering the landscape making it an absolute kip, and such. Disgusting people.

And no, I don't consider them a race or ethnicity, it's a life choice. They're Irish like anyone else... else we might as well consider city and counyryside folk races as well... :rolleyes:

Must be nice to never have to live and put up with them.

tedpan · 07-04-2019 10:24AM

Ultimate Seduction wrote:

Seen on tweeter some fella sent Stan collymore a Nasty message, imedietley people found his Facebook, emailed his mother, his work, his mates ECT. I find it weird that random people emailing his mother an work place, but what should punishment be for this fella

What's ECT?

Danzy · 07-04-2019 10:25AM

tedpan wrote: »

What's ECT?

Guessing etc.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 07-04-2019 10:25AM

As the Sunday Times shows today, anti Semitism is the real racism of today, big in the Labour Party. Corbyn should go.

super_furry · 07-04-2019 10:26AM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

As the Sunday Times shows today, anti Semitism is the real racism of today, big in the Labour Party. Corbyn should go.

It's as much a problem as Islamophobia in the Tory party, but everyone involved in the British government should be fired into the sun at this stage.

Yer Da sells Avon · 07-04-2019 10:28AM

tedpan wrote: »

What's ECT?

Electroconvulsive therapy. They placed loads of electrodes on the racist and zapped it right out of him.

Danzy · 07-04-2019 10:31AM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

As the Sunday Times shows today, anti Semitism is the real racism of today, big in the Labour Party. Corbyn should go.

Antisemitism has grown rapidly in the last 5 years.

The Left in Ireland is not really antisemitic, it is a significant problem in Britain and they are less than in Europe.

As the left continues to move away from its roots, that may well change quickly here but I suspect not.

dxhound2005 · 07-04-2019 10:31AM

I don't understand why people call me stupid, dumb, and ect.

the beer revolu · 07-04-2019 10:34AM

Pissartist wrote: »

We as Irish are stereotyped as drunken potato eating drunks, why because there's some truth to it, unfortunately blacks can be stereotyped of other things, I know a lot of women who won't get in a taxi with one for example

What's your point?
That you know a lot of racist women?

TCM · 07-04-2019 10:36AM

suicide_circus wrote:

no punishment for racist thoughts (yet) but when you actually go after and abuse an individual thats a different story.

SEPT 23 1989 wrote:

Beating up women isn't that pretty either Stanley

Did he use the 'mental health' escape clause for that?

enricoh · 07-04-2019 10:40AM

the beer revolu wrote: »

What's your point?
That you know a lot of racist women?

Yeah, no issue at all with bogus foreign taxi drivers in dublin, stupid racist women -

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.her.ie/amp/life/more-than-100-dublin-taxi-drivers-have-been-taken-off-the-road-in-industry-crackdown-269315&ved=2ahUKEwj745PX5L3hAhXfTRUIHShVAzoQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0IDP9_jgaHtxeHYUupTsZx&ampcf=1

dxhound2005 · 07-04-2019 10:45AM

enricoh wrote: »

Yeah, no issue at all with bogus foreign taxi drivers in dublin, stupid racist women -

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.her.ie/amp/life/more-than-100-dublin-taxi-drivers-have-been-taken-off-the-road-in-industry-crackdown-269315&ved=2ahUKEwj745PX5L3hAhXfTRUIHShVAzoQFjAAegQIARAB&usg=AOvVaw0IDP9_jgaHtxeHYUupTsZx&ampcf=1

Just laugh it off.

The Satanist · 07-04-2019 10:45AM

I'm still waiting for someone to be punished for the bigoted and sectarian abuse of James McClean. I wonder what Stan the woman beater thinks about this.

Yer Da sells Avon · 07-04-2019 10:55AM

TCM wrote: »

Did he use the 'mental health' escape clause for that?

As far as I know, he claimed he 'only' hit her once, very gently and with the palm of his hand. Witnesses say he punched her to the ground and kicked her in the head several times.

The Satanist · 07-04-2019 10:58AM

Yer Da sells Avon wrote: »

As far as I know, he claimed he 'only' hit her once, very gently and with the palm of his hand. Witnesses say he punched her to the ground and kicked her in the head several times.

Witnesses are obviously racist innit

Franz Von Peppercorn · 07-04-2019 11:06AM

The Satanist wrote: »

I'm still waiting for someone to be punished for the bigoted and sectarian abuse of James McClean. I wonder what Stan the woman beater thinks about this.

Yes, the British tend to ignore anti Irish racism.

biko · 07-04-2019 11:07AM

Many countries already have legislation in place for hate crimes so the state can deal with it.

Danzy · 07-04-2019 11:09AM

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

As the Sunday Times shows today, anti Semitism is the real racism of today, big in the Labour Party. Corbyn should go.

Read bits of it, disturbing, It is open season on Jews for Labour.

An openly antisemitic party and defiantly so.

10 Downing St.will be the punishment for Corbyn's racism.

Given the ordeal that May has had, that may be a cruel and unusual punishment.

What is or should be the punishment for racism?

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