"Crusaders" offensive, bad word.

Jimmy Garlic · 03-04-2019 07:37PM #1

Chrustchurch Crusaders. "Offensive" because of the crusades back nearly 1000 years ago, they are going changing the name of the rugby team.., I don't think Saladin and his crew were the nicest bunch either in all fairness. Will they change the name of Christchurch itself too? Surely that's "offensive" too .

judeboy101 · 03-04-2019 07:39PM

Snowflakes

ytpe2r5bxkn0c1 · 03-04-2019 07:40PM

Will Saracens RFC change their name too?

LessOutragePlz · 03-04-2019 07:41PM

The permanently outraged will always find something to be outraged by.

OldMrBrennan83 · 03-04-2019 07:41PM

Did you ever hear such shíte in your life? World is rapidly disappearing up its own hole.

dxhound2005 · 03-04-2019 07:42PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Chrustchurch Crusaders. "Offensive" because of the crusades back nearly 1000 years ago, they are going changing the name of the rugby team.., I don't think Saladin and his crew were the nicest bunch either in all fairness. Will they change the name of Christchurch itself too? Surely that's "offensive" too .

Changed already.

fatknacker · 03-04-2019 07:45PM

Well if the Bay of Plenty Steamers can keep their team then I don't see what the problem is.

SEPT 23 1989 · 03-04-2019 07:48PM

Banning historical things whether it be names,flags or statues just shows how weak their argument is

odyssey06 · 03-04-2019 07:49PM

Its a pretty crap name for a sports team in my opinion, but changing it for that reason is bonkers.

judeboy101 · 03-04-2019 07:54PM

Aren't the new Zealand rugby team called the "All blacks"? And none of them are actually black.

03-04-2019 07:57PM

Jurgen Klopp · 03-04-2019 07:57PM

Ah tbf lads it's handy out. With the banning and trying to white wash any upsetting aspects of history and/or modern society within a 100 years or so we should be good for another run at the oul Nazism and Stalin esque Communism, purges and all cause no one will remember it

odyssey06 · 03-04-2019 07:57PM

judeboy101 wrote: »

Aren't the new Zealand rugby team called the "All blacks"? And none of them are actually black.

Plus the cultural appropriation of the name Zealand... they cant do anything right.

Wibbs · 03-04-2019 08:08PM

More knee jerk bollocks from a section of NZ society that of late have been knee jerking like a can can troupe on columbian marching powder. Bloody ridiculous.

The Rape of Lucretia · 03-04-2019 08:13PM

The hypocrisy is astounding, from the country that is the only one to still field a team based on racial grounds, with the Maori All Blacks playing many of the worlds top teams, but excluding from selection any players it doesnt consider to have Maori blood.

Pauliedragon · 03-04-2019 08:14PM

To be fair I dont think there was much of a call from the public for this. The Crusaders decided on a name change on their own so if a club decides to change their name that's up to them and the NZRU surely.

mynamejeff · 03-04-2019 08:14PM

Im gona have to start supporting the Kansas city darkies now

Ipso · 03-04-2019 08:15PM

We can’t forget the crusades, such a great bunch of lads.

Jurgen Klopp · 03-04-2019 08:17PM

The Rape of Lucretia wrote: »

The hypocrisy is astounding, from the country that is the only one to still field a team based on racial grounds, with the Maori All Blacks playing many of the worlds top teams, but excluding from selection any players it doesnt consider to have Maori blood.

Jesus I thought this a wind up like your usual

But potential players need an ancestry test before joining

WTF

odyssey06 · 03-04-2019 08:18PM

Ipso wrote: »

We can’t forget the crusades, such a great bunch of lads.

Nightmare on a stag weekend.

Danzy · 03-04-2019 08:19PM

The modern Left and "progressives" remind me of that Pet Shop Boys song "It's a sin".

The New priest caste.

03-04-2019 08:19PM

SEPT 23 1989 wrote: »

Banning historical things whether it be names,flags or statues just shows how weak their argument is

Shows who and what argument?

Jurgen Klopp · 03-04-2019 08:29PM

Danzy wrote: »

The modern Left and "progressives" remind me of that Pet Shop Boys song "It's a sin".

The New priest caste.

You know I remember someone making the comparison a lot of these regressive leftists would years ago have been the right Holy Joe's and busy bodies of the local church and the real harcore types Priests and Nuns I'm starting to believe it

Complete control freaks

sydthebeat · 03-04-2019 08:30PM

Jimmy Garlic wrote: »

Chrustchurch Crusaders. "Offensive" because of the crusades back nearly 1000 years ago, they are going changing the name of the rugby team.., I don't think Saladin and his crew were the nicest bunch either in all fairness. Will they change the name of Christchurch itself too? Surely that's "offensive" too .

It isn't "Christchurch crusaders"

It's just crusaders.

Atoms for Peace · 03-04-2019 08:35PM

I don't like the use of generic names for sports clubs, that wrong with just using Christchurch rugby.

sydthebeat · 03-04-2019 08:39PM

Atoms for Peace wrote: »

I don't like the use of generic names for sports clubs, that wrong with just using Christchurch rugby.

Cos there's already a team based in Christchurch called canturbury.

The crusaders are just the crusaders....

StupidLikeAFox · 03-04-2019 08:42PM

This is from the clubs statement:
"it is apparent that the symbolism the club has used, combined with the ‘Crusaders’ name, is offensive to some in the community due to its association with the religious Crusades between Christians and Muslims"

The city has just undergone a huge tragedy, its hard to imagine what that would be like tbh and if changing the name and branding of a rugby club will help with the healing and show a bit of solidarity between two communities then more power to them.

Pauliedragon · 03-04-2019 08:52PM

sydthebeat wrote: »

Cos there's already a team based in Christchurch called canturbury.

The crusaders are just the crusaders....

Their full name is the Canterbury Crusaders. They play there matches in Christchurch like munster play in Limerick but they represent the whole of Munster.

mad muffin · 03-04-2019 08:52PM

Call me cynical, but it’s a perfect opportunity to rebrand and get the fans to buy new gear.

Also they might as well rename Christchurch while they’re at it…

odyssey06 · 03-04-2019 08:53PM

I propose the Conciliators as the new name. Wont have to change any initials...

Yeah_Right · 03-04-2019 09:02PM

Pauliedragon wrote: »

Their full name is the Canterbury Crusaders. They play there matches in Christchurch like munster play in Limerick but they represent the whole of Munster.

No they were the Canterbury Crusaders when they were formed in 1996. All the NZ Super Rugby teams dropped the regional prefix 10 plus years ago. The Crusaders also play matches in Nelson, Timaru and maybe a couple of other towns. Though most are in Christchurch.

The club and the NZRU have apparently hired a PR firm to explore the possibility of a name change after consultation with the wider community. It's not a done deal but I think it will happen.

"Crusaders" offensive, bad word.

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