Primary School threatens to stop celebrating Christmas/Easter/Patricks Day

lawred2 · 02-04-2019 09:33AM

Cienciano wrote: »

Christmas celebrations will be scrapped under new ethos - Catholic schools warn

I highlited the important bit. super_furry got it spot on, catholic church worried about losing it's grip. Having to baptise kids to get them into school is the only reason a large percentage of people consider themselves catholic.

that's gone* as of last year

* formally - maybe not informally

GLaDOS · 02-04-2019 09:34AM

lawred2 wrote: »

that's gone* as of last year

* formally - maybe not informally

And that's why they're worried

lawred2 · 02-04-2019 09:39AM

GLaDOS wrote: »

And that's why they're worried

which 'they'? - the church?

I was surprised that the push back in our school came primarily from teachers and the local Helen Lovejoys...

RayCun · 02-04-2019 09:41AM

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Some of the stuff in that article seems far fetched to the point of being an April Fools article - no saying "Dia Duit" as it references god for example.

Out of interest has any of the stuff mentioned in the article actually come to pass in multi denominational or non denominational schools?

There was a discussion about this in a facebook group I'm on a few weeks ago.

Most multi-denominational schools still say "Dia dhuit" because in practice it has as little to do with religion as "goodbye".

Edgware · 02-04-2019 09:44AM

RayCun wrote: »

There was a discussion about this in a facebook group I'm on a few weeks ago.

Most multi-denominational schools still say "Dia dhuit" because in practice it has as little to do with religion as "goodbye".

"Goodbye" is derived from " God be with you"

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-04-2019 09:46AM

Edgware wrote: »

CrankyHaus wrote: »

Some of the stuff in that article seems far fetched to the point of being an April Fools article - no saying "Dia Duit" as it references god for example.

Out of interest has any of the stuff mentioned in the article actually come to pass in multi denominational or non denominational schools?

Try saying "God bless you" or mentioning Ramadan in the U.S. public school system and see how far you will get.

Happy holidays

In April?!

And to think i try to convince people abroad that the Irish people are intelligent and no longer subservient to the church.

Feckin Indo gets worse every day and people who read it get more moronic.

Berserker · 02-04-2019 09:48AM

Cienciano wrote: »

"It's pc gone mad. I heard they're bringing sharia law into a school in Balbriggan"

Call to prayer woke us up at 4am. My wife is going to call Joe today.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-04-2019 09:51AM

Berserker wrote: »

Cienciano wrote: »

"It's pc gone mad. I heard they're bringing sharia law into a school in Balbriggan"

Call to prayer woke us up at 4am. My wife is going to call Joe today.

Joe converted to Islam - he's lost to you now.

Edgware · 02-04-2019 09:53AM

Berserker wrote: »

Call to prayer woke us up at 4am. My wife is going to call Joe today.

Its a disgrace Joe. We will just be finished Lent and they want us to do Ramadan in the interests of bleedin equality.

TomasMacR · 02-04-2019 09:53AM

Guy:Incognito wrote: »

One can only hope.

Nothing worse than being forced to go to a crap play to watch my kids stand as background furniture.

I don't think the play side of things is going to go away, you'll now just be forced to watch some kind of inclusive nativity scene involving a transgender mother/father thing receiving gifts of vegan snacks. Your kids will still be furniture kids. Furniture kids are usually the most problematic and talentless in any given class, just saying

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-04-2019 09:53AM

Mark Rippetoe wrote: »

Mod: Thread title changed because fcuk clickbait.

In case anybody is wondering, the old stupidly inaccurate and misleading title was:

Primary Schools to Ban Christmas Celebrations

You should have left it as a warning to others.

JohnnyFlash · 02-04-2019 09:54AM

Rich folks will continue to send their kids to private faith-based schools. Others can send their kid to one of those lowest-rung educate together places.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 02-04-2019 09:57AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Rich folks will continue to send their kids to private faith-based schools. Others can send their kid to one of those lowest-rung educate together places.

That's the second-worst post on this thread.

Wealth means religion ?!

Edgware · 02-04-2019 09:58AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Rich folks will continue to send their kids to private faith-based schools. Others can send their kid to one of those lowest-rung educate together places.

or the "tech"

RayCun · 02-04-2019 10:02AM

Edgware wrote: »

"Goodbye" is derived from " God be with you"

yes, which was the point.

Atheists don't avoid saying "goodbye" (or "adieu" or ...)

Educate Together schools don't teach children not to say "goodbye"

They don't refuse to teach people "Dia dhuit" either.

RayCun · 02-04-2019 10:04AM

TomasMacR wrote: »

I don't think the play side of things is going to go away, you'll now just be forced to watch some kind of inclusive nativity scene involving a transgender mother/father thing receiving gifts of vegan snacks. Your kids will still be furniture kids. Furniture kids are usually the most problematic and talentless in any given class, just saying

Educate Together schools usually do some other type of play, not a nativity

Berserker · 02-04-2019 10:04AM

RayCun wrote: »

Educate Together schools usually do some other type of play, not a nativity

A South Park style Christmas play?

RayCun · 02-04-2019 10:07AM

Berserker wrote: »

A South Park style Christmas play?

Wizard of Oz, Charlie and the Chocolate Factory, Peter Pan...

Tacklebox · 02-04-2019 10:07AM

Berserker wrote: »

A South Park style Christmas play?

I pity the poor kid who'll play Mr Hanky the Christmas poo....

He'll be scarred for life

02-04-2019 10:14AM

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Rich folks will continue to send their kids to private faith-based schools. Others can send their kid to one of those lowest-rung educate together places.

You don't really know much about the primary school system in Ireland, do you?

meeeeh · 02-04-2019 10:15AM

FFs this is complete overreaction. Mine are in catholic primary school and they don't do half of that anyway. The last time they had nativity or any type religious play was in Junior Infants all the other classes do some other play (the only think in common is that they are all too long). St. Patrick's is marked more by the green schools initiative and so on. Should I complain that they are not Catholic enough.

I'm just listening to Pat Kenny and one of the parents has a good point that they were not told to who would run the school after it was divested. Parents should have the right who will replace the church.

El_Bee · 02-04-2019 10:17AM

I'd be happy to see Communions/Confirmations go, the amount of money that gets spent on them is insane, all the parents have to fork out clothes, limos, parties etc. so they can keep up with the Jones', stupid and pointless.

Tombo2001 · 02-04-2019 10:18AM

salmocab wrote: »

OP that article and what your talking about aren’t even close to the same thing. Your giving out about something that’s not happening.

Unfortunately on the internet, your entirely valid point is a non-consideration. It doesnt even enter the conversation.

lawred2 · 02-04-2019 10:19AM

El_Bee wrote: »

I'd be happy to see Communions/Confirmations go, the amount of money that gets spent on them is insane, all the parents have to fork out clothes, limos, parties etc. so they can keep up with the Jones', stupid and pointless.

well they don't have to

EmmetSpiceland · 02-04-2019 10:19AM

They waste an awful lot of time teaching religion and then almost the whole communion year is spent on the build up to the big day. At least the educate together crowd aren’t bound by all that and can spend more time teaching useful subjects and learning about religion in general.

The ones who seem to bleat the loudest about the failing Catholic Church are the ones who only care about having the big day out for the communion and fall into mass on Christmas Eve after having a feed of pints in local pub.

meeeeh · 02-04-2019 10:24AM

EmmetSpiceland wrote: »

The ones who seem to bleat the loudest about the failing Catholic Church are the ones who only care about having the big day out for the communion and fall into mass on Christmas Eve after having a feed of pints in local pub.

No it is not. My local Educate Together has about 50% children of non nationals. More transient population with worse command of English and often less ties to the community. Mine are in small (1 class per year) catholic schools and loads of kids are driven past quite a few schools (including the Educate Together one) to be taught in the one mine go to. And I can guarantee you it's not because of communion.

El_Bee · 02-04-2019 10:24AM

lawred2 wrote: »

well they don't have to

Dunno where the point is there, no one has to get out of bed in the morning either.

lawred2 · 02-04-2019 10:28AM

El_Bee wrote: »

Dunno where the point is there, no one has to get out of bed in the morning either.

quite a simple point - saying something should go because some people are trying to keep up with the Jones' is not a strong argument. In fact - it's not an argument at all.

Removing sectarian practice from our primary schools is a much more relevant argument.

RayCun · 02-04-2019 10:28AM

meeeeh wrote: »

No it is not. My local Educate Together has about 50% children of non nationals. More transient population with worse command of English and often less ties to the community. Mine are in small (1 class per year) catholic schools and loads of kids are driven past quite a few schools (including the Educate Together one) to be taught in the one mine go to. And I can guarantee you it's not because of communion.

Ah yes, "Love thy neighbour as thyself - but don't send your kids to school with them"

is_that_so · 02-04-2019 10:29AM

El_Bee wrote: »

I'd be happy to see Communions/Confirmations go, the amount of money that gets spent on them is insane, all the parents have to fork out clothes, limos, parties etc. so they can keep up with the Jones', stupid and pointless.

Your child may never forgive you for forgoing such goldmines!

Primary School threatens to stop celebrating Christmas/Easter/Patricks Day

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