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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,636 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    abff wrote: »
    Googled Sergio just now. One of the questions that came up was "where did Sergio Garcia grow up"?

    Not sure what to make of that question as it clearly hasn't happened yet.

    Zing!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Pa8301


    abff wrote: »
    To be honest, I don't think either of them emerges with any credit from that fiasco. Sergio demonstrated his petulance yet again. Kuchar has managed to alienate anyone who still had any respect for him after caddygate.

    I agree with that somewhat. Another player might have made a gesture and conceded the next hole. But Sergio shouldn't be complaining to Kuchar about a situation that was pretty much entirely of his own making.

    It's pretty basic stuff that most players are taught early on when they start playing golf that you don't just assume that a putt is given. And Garcia didn't even give Kuchar much of a chance to concede the putt. Just walked up and swatted it left-handed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 320 ✭✭lostatsea


    Pa8301 wrote: »
    I agree with that somewhat. Another player might have made a gesture and conceded the next hole. But Sergio shouldn't be complaining to Kuchar about a situation that was pretty much entirely of his own making.

    It's pretty basic stuff that most players are taught early on when they start playing golf that you don't just assume that a putt is given.

    The problem with Kuchar conceding the next hole is that the dynamic of the overall match changes. Essentially an 18-hole match-play event is now reduced to 16 holes.
    Why should Kuchar do this to facilitate a petulant act by Garcia who did what he did because he was pissed off at Kuchar getting an improbable half on a hole Garcia thought he had already won?
    Match-play involves mind games. Why should Kuchar concede this edge he has managed to achieve over his opponent?
    Some will say that Kuchar is not sportsmanlike but I'd have to say I would be more inclined to make this accusation in Garcia's direction.


  • Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Not that we saw any of it but sergio was cruising versus Reed he didn't conceed a 3 footer which Garcia missed and he came back from 3 down.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Pa8301


    lostatsea wrote: »
    The problem with Kuchar conceding the next hole is that the dynamic of the overall match changes. Essentially an 18-hole match-play event is now reduced to 16 holes.
    Why should Kuchar do this to facilitate a petulant act by Garcia who did what he did because he was pissed off at Kuchar getting an improbable half on a hole Garcia thought he had already won?
    Match-play involves mind games. Why should Kuchar concede this edge he has managed to achieve over his opponent?
    Some will say that Kuchar is not sportsmanlike but I'd have to say I would be more inclined to make this accusation in Garcia's direction.

    Yeah I don't think Kuchar can be criticised for not conceding the next hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭Remind me


    Bjerregaard seriously impressive


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,049 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Pity it ended that way in that game, very entertaining game. Fair play Lucas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine


    You're telling me people like watching Tiger for a minute before he takes every shot, each to their own but I'd prefer to see other golfers when all thats going on.
    I'm not much of a fanboy for any golfer mind

    Your original point was silly but once you used the term "fanboy".. I'll leave you to it :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Did Sergio lose in the end?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,049 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Did Sergio lose in the end?

    Literally just now on 18


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  • Posts: 14,734 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    HighLine wrote: »
    Your original point was silly but once you used the term "fanboy".. I'll leave you to it :D

    If you think it was silly, you obviously misunderstood the point.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Mushy wrote: »
    Literally just now on 18

    Did they shake hands?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,378 ✭✭✭HighLine


    Semi-final..... Kuchar v Molinari & Bjerregaard v Kisner ..... I'm sure the organisers are delighted. Heading for some very low viewing figures tomorrow unfortunately.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,853 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre


    Kuchar molinari should be interesting. Pity no tiger tomorrow


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,636 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Did they shake hands?

    Yep - all water under the bridge in the end. Sergio admitted it was all his fault in the interview and just smiled it off.

    heat of the moment was typical tempestous sergio, but then he had time to reflect on what happened and in the end rightly accepted full responsibility for the course of actions that transpired


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭Remind me


    Happy4all wrote: »
    Did they shake hands?

    Yeah seemed fine

    Kuchar getting tongue tied in the press conference over it at the minute


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,721 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I used to love the Wentworth matchplay. I've never really fell in love with the WGC one.
    This one next has been pretty poor imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,636 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    eagle eye wrote: »
    I used to love the Wentworth matchplay. I've never really fell in love with the WGC one.
    This one next has been pretty poor imo.

    Is there any golf you like anymore ? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,049 ✭✭✭✭Mushy


    HighLine wrote: »
    Semi-final..... Kuchar v Molinari & Bjerregaard v Kisner ..... I'm sure the organisers are delighted. Heading for some very low viewing figures tomorrow unfortunately.

    It's Kuchar vs Bjerregard. Would assume faves will be Molinari vs Kuch final


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭Remind me


    Think the press conferences and interviews show Kuchar up again for just not being a decent fella.

    García admitted he was wrong, Kuchar got the rules involved when there was absolutely no need. If nothing is said they move onto the next having halved the hole.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,636 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    HighLine wrote: »
    Semi-final..... Kuchar v Molinari & Bjerregaard v Kisner ..... I'm sure the organisers are delighted. Heading for some very low viewing figures tomorrow unfortunately.
    Mushy wrote: »
    It's Kuchar vs Bjerregard. Would assume faves will be Molinari vs Kuch final

    highline was victim of another classic Ewen Murray blunder who at the time gave it in the order he listed

    but he does have a lovely soft scottish accent, doesnt he :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,721 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Rikand wrote:
    Is there any golf you like anymore ?
    Love the majors, love the Players, love the BMW at Wentworth, love Riviera, most PGA tour events, some of the European ones too.
    I was just never a fan of the WGC matchplay, I watch it but I'm sorry I didn't watch the other PGA event instead.
    Wentworth is a wonderful so I miss the matchplay there as it was a second chance to see that course every year.
    I'm still confused about Rory at 16, shouldn't have been playing a wedge there. Just don't understand what he was playing at.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,636 ✭✭✭✭Rikand


    The wedge was fine, the problem was the direction. He took on the flag when there was no need to. Tiger was on the green in 3 and a long way away, so a 4 while possible, was improbable. if he just hit the wedge into the centre of the green, he would very likely have had 2 putts for the win. Instead he got greedy, the wind messed with the flight of the ball and he came up 15 yards short.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,823 ✭✭✭✭First Up


    Rikand wrote:
    but he does have a lovely soft scottish accent, doesnt he


    I think he's an oily creep but each to his own.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,520 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    Mushy wrote: »
    Pity it ended that way in that game, very entertaining game. Fair play Lucas

    What happened at the end of Tigers match, I missed it?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 543 ✭✭✭Pa8301


    GreeBo wrote: »
    What happened at the end of Tigers match, I missed it?

    Tiger missed a short putt to take it to extra holes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,609 ✭✭✭boardise


    Great for Garcia -now he has another grudge to hump around... grumpy pillock that he is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,457 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    It was Garcia's stupidity that cost him, end of.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 184 ✭✭Donald Trumped


    Graeme McDowell leads the way in the Corales Puntacana Championship on 18 under par in the Dominican Republic. A win for GMac will get him a 2 year exemption on the PGA Tour. He leads by one with 12 holes to go. Paul Dunne also playing well, with the Greystones man at 14 under with 10 to play. Looking good to qualify for Texas next week for Dunners, providing he remains in the top 10.

    On a separate note, not one mention of McDowell, Dunne or Leona Maguire's great performance on the Symetra Tour, on the Six One News this evening on RTE. The national broadcaster is quite simply a rag of a station, that's for sure when it comes to the promotion of golf and other sports outside of the likes of GAA, Soccer and Rugby.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 871 ✭✭✭Remind me


    NDWC wrote: »
    Garcia only missed out on a half by missing that putt, so why do I see people saying online that Kuchar should've conceded a hole? Wouldn't that have meant Kuchar would be down a half point himself? Kuchar was dead right to refuse, it was Garcia's stupidity that cost him, end of.

    Don’t think Kuchar should have conceded a hole but he definitely went looking to win that hole by getting the ref involved.

    García made a mistake which he accepts but Kuchar was a cl*wn


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