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Selling to the council

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  • 26-03-2019 12:55pm
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    rightmove
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    Well they are interested and not sure if I should pursue the traditional route of a private buyer or go with council. The price us right but I hear they an drag you out forever but not sure if that is true. Just wondering what I need to look out for. It's fingal and I would like it pushed through as soon as.


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    #2
    rgodard80a
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    Did you get your house valued by a local estate agent?


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    rightmove
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    rgodard80a wrote: »
    Did you get your house valued by a local estate agent?

    Yes. Someone from cc has looked at it. Just looking for general advice to avoid bumps on the road


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    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    I am selling a house with Fingal and I was told twelve weeks from start to finish.

    I was given the price I asked for and now contracts are with solicitors. My solicitor did say they can drag it out but surely with so much talk about homelessness and lack of houses speed is of the essence. I hope so anyway because I want rid of the house too.


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    handlemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    tretorn wrote: »
    I am selling a house with Fingal and I was told twelve weeks from start to finish.

    I was given the price I asked for and now contracts are with solicitors. My solicitor did say they can drag it out but surely with so much talk about homelessness and lack of houses speed is of the essence. I hope so anyway because I want rid of the house too.


    so fingal paid full asking price ?


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    cruizer101
    Registered Users Posts: 3,205 ✭✭✭cruizer101


    Got to say this practice really annoys me.
    The council is pushing up house prices by buying a house against a private purchaser.
    Also it would be far cheaper for them to build then buy.
    What's the point in them buying and renting as social housing when it's one less house for private purchaser who may end up having to go on social housing list, why can't they just build houses with the money for f**k sake. Yes it takes more time but its actually solving the problem not kicking the s**t filled can down the road.
    BTW I'm not giving out to you OP, do what's best for you, just wish council weren't so useless.


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    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    handlemaster wrote: »
    so fingal paid full asking price ?

    Well, they accepted the asking price, they havent actually paid yet but contracts are with solicitors. I checked what houses were going for and asked for similar, I am a bit sorry now I didnt ask for a bit more.

    There are no estate agents costs though and hopefully the council wont back out or delay the sale.


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    rightmove
    Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭rightmove


    cruizer101 wrote: »
    Got to say this practice really annoys me.
    The council is pushing up house prices by buying a house against a private purchaser.
    Also it would be far cheaper for them to build then buy.
    What's the point in them buying and renting as social housing when it's one less house for private purchaser who may end up having to go on social housing list, why can't they just build houses with the money for f**k sake. Yes it takes more time but its actually solving the problem not kicking the s**t filled can down the road.
    BTW I'm not giving out to you OP, do what's best for you, just wish council weren't so useless.

    Agree as a taxpayer this is not what we should be doing..personal opinions . Separate thread though. ......Just looking for advice as a seller please. Ta


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    rightmove
    Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭rightmove


    tretorn wrote: »
    Well, they accepted the asking price, they havent actually paid yet but contracts are with solicitors. I checked what houses were going for and asked for similar, I am a bit sorry now I didnt ask for a bit more.

    There are no estate agents costs though and hopefully the council wont back out or delay the sale.

    Did they pay a deposit? Inspect etc? Was it 12 weeks ... that is long time given the current issues


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    machalla
    Registered Users Posts: 1,523 ✭✭✭machalla


    I see a thread on this from early 2018 here

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057827638

    There might be a few people you could PM off that thread to find out how they got on.


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    tretorn
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    rightmove wrote: »
    Did they pay a deposit? Inspect etc? Was it 12 weeks ... that is long time given the current issues

    No deposit paid.

    A BER report was required and that was done this week.

    If they stick to the twelve weeks the sale should go through by the end of April. I cant see why there should be a delay.


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    rightmove
    Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭rightmove


    tretorn wrote: »
    No deposit paid.

    A BER report was required and that was done this week.

    If they stick to the twelve weeks the sale should go through by the end of April. I cant see why there should be a delay.

    How you go sale agreed if no deposit?


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    handlemaster
    Registered Users Posts: 6,003 ✭✭✭handlemaster


    tretorn wrote: »
    No deposit paid.

    A BER report was required and that was done this week.

    If they stick to the twelve weeks the sale should go through by the end of April. I cant see why there should be a delay.

    did the property have to be empty for them to buy, i.e. you dont have sitting social tenants in the property ?


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    rightmove
    Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭rightmove


    handlemaster wrote: »
    did the property have to be empty for them to buy, i.e. you dont have sitting social tenants in the property ?

    Mine was empty ..yes


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    Krombopulos Michael
    Registered Users Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Krombopulos Michael


    Did you contact the council yourself regarding selling?


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    rightmove
    Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭rightmove


    Krombopulos Michael wrote: »
    Did you contact the council yourself regarding selling?

    No ...on open market at moment


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    Dee01
    Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Dee01


    I sold to the council, so happy to chat re what happened.


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    Caranica
    Registered Users Posts: 10,041 ✭✭✭✭Caranica


    handlemaster wrote: »
    did the property have to be empty for them to buy, i.e. you dont have sitting social tenants in the property ?

    In my experience some Councils require vacant possession even if the tenants are on the housing list. A friend was selling an apartment in D18 and even though their tenants were on the housing list, DLR required vacant possession as the tenants weren't at the top of the housing list.


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    #19
    rightmove
    Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭rightmove


    Dee01 wrote: »
    I sold to the council, so happy to chat re what happened.

    Please share. Others will benefit from your experiences


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    tretorn
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,800 ✭✭✭tretorn


    Yes, I contacted the council and they came out within days to inspect the property. I was told immediately that they were interested and my solicitor and theirs got in contact.

    The house had to be tenant free and I think they wont deal with you if the house is with an estate agent, ie they wont get into a bidding situation.

    I will ask my solicitor today about a booking deposit, I presume I will get thst shortly.

    Please tell of your experience of completing a sale to the council.


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    Krombopulos Michael
    Registered Users Posts: 1,088 ✭✭✭Krombopulos Michael


    I'd be interested in how long the process would take versus a private sale


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    tretorn
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    There is no reason why a straight forward sale should take a long time.

    We are hearing constantly about a lack of houses so why would local authorities delay getting one into their possession so they can rent it.

    I am really hoping this is the case.


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    Dee01
    Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Dee01


    I had put my house on the market via a private auctioneer. She kept telling me to go sale agrd well below the asking price (2016) as she wanted done with the sale, but there was still interest and bids trickling in. I decided to sack her and I called the council. They took my address and said they'd be interested, so we arranged the inspection. After the last inspection, they offered full asking price. A previous bidder topped that by 5k, but council wouldn't engage in bidding. I decided to go with the councils lower offer as i felt it was guaranteed and wouldnt fall through.

    I had a tracker, so needed the sale and purchase to go through on the same day. The purchase took ages and the council were happy to wait. Draft contracts were drawn up and signed. I actually dont think we got a deposit to be honest. When we were ready for the sale, i got on to the council and everything moved really quickly.

    The delays with us were due to annual leave in the council and my solicitor being shocking. I'd advise getting a good solicitor.

    We had to leave the house 100% empty and relatively clean. After we lefr, the house was idle for about 3 months and then they came in and gutted it (brand new kitchen ripped out, new windows and doors, new boiler etc.). Tenants moved in about 6 months after that.


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    tretorn
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    So the house was left empty for nine months, what is all that about when we have families living in hotels.

    Its a scandal that perfectly good kitchens are being ripped out. If I buy a house and have no money I have to put up with whatever kitchen is in that house until I can afford to replace it. Same with windows and doors whatever about replacing a boiler.

    All this nonsense has a lot to do with the homeless problem.

    Do you mind saying which council you were with Dee01.


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    Dee01
    Registered Users Posts: 261 ✭✭Dee01


    tretorn wrote: »
    So the house was left empty for nine months, what is all that about when we have families living in hotels.

    Its a scandal that perfectly good kitchens are being ripped out. If I buy a house and have no money I have to put up with whatever kitchen is in that house until I can afford to replace it. Same with windows and doors whatever about replacing a boiler.

    All this nonsense has a lot to do with the homeless problem.

    Do you mind saying which council you were with Dee01.

    I know - we felt exactly the same. It was heartbreaking seeing some of our things in skips (solid wooden floors, fireplace, all internal glazed doors), all perfect. Seemingly, the council have to bring the houses they take back to as they were. It was dublin city council.


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    Caranica
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    Dee01 wrote: »
    I know - we felt exactly the same. It was heartbreaking seeing some of our things in skips (solid wooden floors, fireplace, all internal glazed doors), all perfect. Seemingly, the council have to bring the houses they take back to as they were. It was dublin city council.

    The reason is that the council renovate and then the tenant is responsible for maintenance and wear and tear. In some cases the council will move people in straight away but are on the hook if anything goes wrong. It's cheaper and more efficient to fully renovate at the start.


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    rightmove
    Registered Users Posts: 993 ✭✭✭rightmove


    Caranica wrote: »
    It's cheaper and more efficient to fully renovate at the start.

    Surely it's cheaper to leave it as is. The responsibility model is a smokescreen for wasting tax payers money


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    zreba
    Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭zreba


    tretorn wrote: »
    So the house was left empty for nine months, what is all that about when we have families living in hotels.

    Its a scandal that perfectly good kitchens are being ripped out. If I buy a house and have no money I have to put up with whatever kitchen is in that house until I can afford to replace it. Same with windows and doors whatever about replacing a boiler.

    All this nonsense has a lot to do with the homeless problem.

    Do you mind saying which council you were with Dee01.

    Just another good example of how the regulation meant to be protecting the people, in reality works against them. Similarly the building and planning regulations, minimum apartment sizes, min number of lifts in a building, car park spaces and height limits. An enforced list of 'nice to have' features, which only small percentage of the population can afford. The result is, we get only a few of very nice new apartments for rich and no housing for the men on the ground. The 10k or 14k homeless people is just the tip of the iceberg. There are likely a million on top of that who struggle, but somehow still manage to not dive fully under the water so there's no headlines about them.

    The irony of 'unintended consequences'. Unintended consequences, but not unexpected.


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    Caranica
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    rightmove wrote: »
    Surely it's cheaper to leave it as is. The responsibility model is a smokescreen for wasting tax payers money

    You'd be surprised. Weekly calls to fix /replace A/B/C start adding up very quickly


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    OU812
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    What number do you call to enquire if they’re interested?


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    daheff
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    rightmove wrote: »
    Surely it's cheaper to leave it as is. The responsibility model is a smokescreen for wasting tax payers money

    As i understand it, council needs to bring houses up to current building standards. The older the house, the more renovations needed.

    but why it takes 3 mths to start is crazy. they should have a team ready to start day you move out.


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