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Choosing between Public and Private Sector

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  • #62
    Mskimee
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    What other benefits come with working in the public sector? For example do new employees still get full maternity pay? How long do you have to be working with them before you’re entitled to full maternity pay? 3 months? 6 months? A year?
    How long before you can apply for transfers? What is the sick leave like? Do they give bereavement leave? Parental leave?


  • #63
    Creol1
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    Mskimee wrote: »
    What other benefits come with working in the public sector? For example do new employees still get full maternity pay? How long do you have to be working with them before you’re entitled to full maternity pay? 3 months? 6 months? A year?
    How long before you can apply for transfers? What is the sick leave like? Do they give bereavement leave? Parental leave?

    In the Civil Service, you can apply for mobility after two years if you are a clerical officer or executive officer. There is actually very good bereavement leave for civil servants -- it is a month for the death of an immediate relative.

    For the broader public service, the arrangements will depend on the employer. The go-to circular for sick leave in the Civil Service is Circular 05/2018. A lot of relevant information for Civil Service HR is available here: https://hr.per.gov.ie/


  • #64
    Mskimee
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    Creol1 wrote: »
    In the Civil Service, you can apply for mobility after two years if you are a clerical officer or executive officer. There is actually very good bereavement leave for civil servants -- it is a month for the death of an immediate relative.
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    That’s fantastic for bereavement leave. I was refused any leave for the death of my grandmother in the private sector. I was allowed to take one day holiday for the funeral and no more as I hadn’t applied for it in writing at least two weeks previous.
    I got the statutory social welfare pay as maternity leave and no more so it was very tough for a few months. The benefits for public sector vary so much from company to company it can be so hard to compare it as a whole to the public sector.


  • #65
    Monife
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    Mskimee wrote: »
    What other benefits come with working in the public sector? For example do new employees still get full maternity pay? How long do you have to be working with them before you’re entitled to full maternity pay? 3 months? 6 months? A year?
    How long before you can apply for transfers? What is the sick leave like? Do they give bereavement leave? Parental leave?

    Full maternity pay for 26 weeks, unpaid for 16 weeks. Don't think there's any minimum time you have to serve, not back in work until Thursday, can check my handbook then. One year plus probation completed before you can apply for a transfer. Like said above, 20 days for death of a spouse or child, 5 days for a parent, 3 days for a sibling or grandparent and 1 day for aunt/uncle, paid. Unpaid parental leave available. Plus the two week paternity benefit for dad's is paid.


  • #66
    dvdman1
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    Creol1 wrote: »
    This is wholly inaccurate. Recruitment to almost all positions in the Civil Service is carried out centrally by the Public Appointments Service; the first couple of stages of recruitment will generally be blind as to the participant's identity, based on a computer-based assessment in verbal/numerical reasoning, etc. When it comes to interview stage, you will be interviewed by a panel you have never met and your answers will be marked against a clear set of competencies that all candidates have to meet.

    If there's anyone who has managed to wrangle a job for their son/daughter through such a stringent system, then well done.



    That means that they believe underperformance is not being successfully tackled where it takes place; it doesn't imply anything about how frequent or widespread it is.

    Returning more directly to the OP's situation, one word of caution I would offer is that the job security, etc., is great, but bear in mind that you have to serve a year-long probationary period first and it is only after that that you will be established.

    I work within a public hospital and ive seen the cronyism 1st hand. Ive talked directly to the brothers and cousins that have done ZERO interviews. HR files are faked and filled ive spoken with HR unoffically and its all hush hush ...these individuals have no aptitudes for the jobs they do. The process you speak of is all fiction it exists on paper


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  • #67
    kippy
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    dvdman1 wrote: »
    I work within a public hospital and ive seen the cronyism 1st hand. Ive talked directly to the brothers and cousins that have done ZERO interviews. HR files are faked and filled ive spoken with HR unoffically and its all hush hush ...these individuals have no aptitudes for the jobs they do. The process you speak of is all fiction it exists on paper

    If that is the case, and I don't doubt it MIGHT be in some areas, it is extremely isolated and rare and most likely hasn't happened in the last 8 years or so.


  • #68
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,904 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    dvdman1 wrote: »
    I work within a public hospital and ive seen the cronyism 1st hand. Ive talked directly to the brothers and cousins that have done ZERO interviews. HR files are faked and filled ive spoken with HR unoffically and its all hush hush ...these individuals have no aptitudes for the jobs they do. The process you speak of is all fiction it exists on paper

    It seems that the problem is within your own organisation rather than within the public sector at large. You can be part of the problem or part of the solution. Time to make a stand.


  • #69
    kaawren
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5 ✭kaawren


    dvdman1 wrote: »
    I work within a public hospital and ive seen the cronyism 1st hand. Ive talked directly to the brothers and cousins that have done ZERO interviews. HR files are faked and filled ive spoken with HR unoffically and its all hush hush ...these individuals have no aptitudes for the jobs they do. The process you speak of is all fiction it exists on paper

    but hospital staff are not civil servants?


  • #70
    [Deleted User]
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    dvdman1 wrote: »
    I work within a public hospital and ive seen the cronyism 1st hand. Ive talked directly to the brothers and cousins that have done ZERO interviews. HR files are faked and filled ive spoken with HR unoffically and its all hush hush ...these individuals have no aptitudes for the jobs they do. The process you speak of is all fiction it exists on paper


    this is incredible

    i mean that literally like


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