John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

ballsymchugh · 24-03-2019 09:06PM

irishgeo wrote: »

Noel rock said he wouldn't be attending and felt it was inappropriate. He expect the same from the other committee members.

The loan was needed because it was around the time denis stopped paying 70% of martin and roy wages. This was also the time, martin and Roy got the big pay rise.

Not sure why they couldn't get the loan from a bank though.

was hoping that Noel Rock would be there. He's been to plenty of matches over the years and would have more than a good idea what needs to be asked regarding tickets for away matches etc.

have a feeling you will get people who haven't a notion asking questions like 'so, do you like football john?'

Irishmale0399 · 24-03-2019 09:06PM

Anyone taking bets on JD being sick, granny dieing or being out of the country on 10 April??

irishgeo · 24-03-2019 09:08PM

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

irishgeo wrote: »

Noel rock said he wouldn't be attending and felt it was inappropriate. He expect the same from the other committee members.

The loan was needed because it was around the time denis stopped paying 70% of martin and roy wages. This was also the time, martin and Roy got the big pay rise.

Not sure why they couldn't get the loan from a bank though.

The loan was a good 7 or 8 months before MONROY got their new contract and DOB stopped funding them which is all the more baffling that they were still given big contracts even though the FAI are meant to be strapped for cash and "borrowing" money from an employee.

Ill need to check the article again.

Coillte_Bhoy · 24-03-2019 09:27PM

ballsymchugh wrote: »

was hoping that Noel Rock would be there. He's been to plenty of matches over the years and would have more than a good idea what needs to be asked regarding tickets for away matches etc.

have a feeling you will get people who haven't a notion asking questions like 'so, do you like football john?'

Noel Rock is on that committee, why woudlnt he be there?

ballsymchugh · 24-03-2019 09:29PM

Coillte_Bhoy wrote: »

Noel Rock is on that committee, why woudlnt he be there?

the post I quoted mentioned that he said he wouldn't be there

Zebra3 · 24-03-2019 09:30PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Anyone taking bets on JD being sick, granny dieing or being out of the country on 10 April??

Dog will have eaten his homework.

Politicians on the gravy train hardly the right people to be questioning him.

Be like Marian Finuncian interrogating him.

CatFromHue · 24-03-2019 09:37PM

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Gimme some of the stuff delaney has done?

Had his rent paid and gave them a loan?

Or did i miss stuff?

He's paid far far too much, is very evasive with the press, sings republican songs, the 10 year ticket fiasco, has overseen an organisation that is now struggling, asked to be an extra team at the World Cup, took a pay off of 5m to shut up about it, anti FAI posters are banned at home games, and is paid far far too much.

That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure others will be able to add to it.

shanec1928 · 24-03-2019 09:38PM

ballsymchugh wrote: »

the post I quoted mentioned that he said he wouldn't be there

For the shindig the fai \ JD arranged prior to meeting

secman · 24-03-2019 09:46PM

The not being there I think relates to a UEFA draw, not the oiractas committee session, jeez shouldn't have mentioned session, Delaney will bring the credit cards....

Tippex · 24-03-2019 10:04PM

secman wrote: »

The not being there I think relates to a UEFA draw, not the oiractas committee session, jeez shouldn't have mentioned session, Delaney will bring the Bag of cans....

FYP

24-03-2019 10:04PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

He's paid far far too much, is very evasive with the press, sings republican songs, the 10 year ticket fiasco, has overseen an organisation that is now struggling, asked to be an extra team at the World Cup, took a pay off of 5m to shut up about it, anti FAI posters are banned at home games, and is paid far far too much.

That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure others will be able to add to it.

For me the FAI under Delaney was summed up when Monaghan United went to wall while he was on the piss in Poland.

Employees in the sport here not knowing if they'd be paid at the end of the week while he whooped it up as the national side was getting crushed on the pitch..it was all wrong. And that was before he decided that his relationship should be the focus in every interview...which was even more wrong. He had lost the plot by that stage.

martingriff · 24-03-2019 10:11PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

It’s improper at best. If the CEO is loaning the association money, how can they hold him to account properly? They’re completely compromised.

I can’t get my head around the fact that an organisation turning over 50mill a year and that made a net profit of 5 mill between 2016 and 2017 needs a 100k bridging loan and the only place they can get it is from their CEO.

It’s extremely naive at best but given the carry on since it came to light, there is little doubt in my mind that Delaney has done something unethical.

I realised now that I never gave my own opinion which you just said. I can also add how can a organisation in debt create a new position and did they advertise for this position or rather as I know the answer why did they not*.

* Yes I know the answer to that also

Ol' Donie · 24-03-2019 10:15PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

He's paid far far too much, is very evasive with the press, sings republican songs, the 10 year ticket fiasco, has overseen an organisation that is now struggling, asked to be an extra team at the World Cup, took a pay off of 5m to shut up about it, anti FAI posters are banned at home games, and is paid far far too much.

That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure others will be able to add to it.

Not forgetting our national team managed to scrape a win against Gibraltar as the last match under his tenure as CEO.

Remember, he got away with no visible evidence of any improvements in the national or LOI setup because of the "great things he's doing at grassroots level".

Necro · 24-03-2019 11:03PM

Chancer3001 wrote:

People hate him despite not being able to name any bad stuff hes done

Lemme see if I can name everything.

Tax fraud, corruption, possible money laundering.
That's just the criminal element.

The stagnation of Irish football under his tenure.
His monstrous salary.
The cronyism and blatant 'jobs for the lads' structure in the FAI.

His overall attitude to the fans.
The banning of anti-FAI material from matches.
The constant shifting of the goalposts when he comes under scrutiny.

(And the criminal in case you think I'm making it up)

The bung he took from FIFA to shut up about being robbed by France. How that was not his undoing is the most shocking thing.
His behaviour in the aftermath of that entire France debacle. Demanding a 33rd team in the World Cup turning the team into a laughing stock.

Washing money and hiding it from his wife through a 'bridging loan' months out from handing MON a massive contract.

Moving sideways in an organisation, creating a new role so he can still ride the UEFA and FIFA gravy train in an attempt to avoid accountability for the above tax fraud and possible money laundering.

Did I get everything? I don't care about the rebel songs tbh.

expectationlost · 24-03-2019 11:05PM

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

The loan was a good 7 or 8 months before MONROY got their new contract and DOB stopped funding them which is all the more baffling that they were still given big contracts even though the FAI are meant to be strapped for cash and "borrowing" money from an employee.

at the end of 2016, the tycoon Denis O’Brien had pulled his commitment of €900,000 a year to cover 70% of Martin O’Neill’s and Roy Keane’s salaries.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/ireland/john-delaneys-own-goal-s0997thgh the loan was in April 2017

asteroids over berlin · 24-03-2019 11:08PM

Necro wrote: »

Chancer3001 wrote:

People hate him despite not being able to name any bad stuff hes done

Lemme see if I can name everything.

Tax fraud, corruption, possible money laundering.
That's just the criminal element.

The stagnation of Irish football under his tenure.
His monstrous salary.
The cronyism and blatant 'jobs for the lads' structure in the FAI.

His overall attitude to the fans.
The banning of anti-FAI material from matches.
The constant shifting of the goalposts when he comes under scrutiny.

(And the criminal in case you think I'm making it up)

The bung he took from FIFA to shut up about being robbed by France. How that was not his undoing is the most shocking thing.
His behaviour in the aftermath of that entire France debacle. Demanding a 33rd team in the World Cup turning the team into a laughing stock.

Washing money and hiding it from his wife through a 'bridging loan' months out from handing MON a massive contract.

Moving sideways in an organisation, creating a new role so he can still ride the UEFA and FIFA gravy train in an attempt to avoid accountability for the above tax fraud and possible money laundering.

Did I get everything? I don't care about the rebel songs tbh.

spot on

Ol' Donie · 24-03-2019 11:16PM

Necro wrote: »

Lemme see if I can name everything.

Tax fraud, corruption, possible money laundering.
That's just the criminal element.

The stagnation of Irish football under his tenure.
His monstrous salary.
The cronyism and blatant 'jobs for the lads' structure in the FAI.

His overall attitude to the fans.
The banning of anti-FAI material from matches.
The constant shifting of the goalposts when he comes under scrutiny.

(And the criminal in case you think I'm making it up)

The bung he took from FIFA to shut up about being robbed by France. How that was not his undoing is the most shocking thing.
His behaviour in the aftermath of that entire France debacle. Demanding a 33rd team in the World Cup turning the team into a laughing stock.

Washing money and hiding it from his wife through a 'bridging loan' months out from handing MON a massive contract.

Moving sideways in an organisation, creating a new role so he can still ride the UEFA and FIFA gravy train in an attempt to avoid accountability for the above tax fraud and possible money laundering.

Did I get everything? I don't care about the rebel songs tbh.

The small matter of appointing Steve Staunton as manager.

The extremely distastful way Brian Kerr found out he was no longer manager (when a courier turned up to take his work phone & laptop).

DeanAustin · 24-03-2019 11:19PM

Necro wrote: »

Lemme see if I can name everything.

Tax fraud, corruption, possible money laundering.
That's just the criminal element.

The stagnation of Irish football under his tenure.
His monstrous salary.
The cronyism and blatant 'jobs for the lads' structure in the FAI.

His overall attitude to the fans.
The banning of anti-FAI material from matches.
The constant shifting of the goalposts when he comes under scrutiny.

(And the criminal in case you think I'm making it up)

The bung he took from FIFA to shut up about being robbed by France. How that was not his undoing is the most shocking thing.
His behaviour in the aftermath of that entire France debacle. Demanding a 33rd team in the World Cup turning the team into a laughing stock.

Washing money and hiding it from his wife through a 'bridging loan' months out from handing MON a massive contract.

Moving sideways in an organisation, creating a new role so he can still ride the UEFA and FIFA gravy train in an attempt to avoid accountability for the above tax fraud and possible money laundering.

Did I get everything? I don't care about the rebel songs tbh.

Was the 5 mill illegal? It was a pay off and probably the best deal he was going to get because the 33rd team thing was a complete joke. Bung also infers he pocketed it which didn’t happen.

Also the stuff about money laundering is pure speculation.

I don’t like the man at all and want him out but your post is slanderous and a bit unfair.

patmac · 24-03-2019 11:27PM

Chancer3001 wrote: »

Gimme some of the stuff delaney has done?

Had his rent paid and gave them a loan?

Or did i miss stuff?

LoL at the user name, does the 3001 stand for the year Delaney will finally get convicted?

Father Hernandez · 24-03-2019 11:28PM

DeanAustin wrote: »

Was the 5 mill illegal? It was a pay off and probably the best deal he was going to get because the 33rd team thing was a complete joke. Bung also infers he pocketed it which didn’t happen.

Also the stuff about money laundering is pure speculation.

I don’t like the man at all and want him out but your post is slanderous and a bit unfair.

From what Necro has said, everything in bold is everything he has done wrong that is 100% proven and the rest I would believe although is not proven just yet.

Tax fraud, corruption, possible money laundering.
That's just the criminal element.

The stagnation of Irish football under his tenure.
His monstrous salary.
The cronyism and blatant 'jobs for the lads' structure in the FAI.

His overall attitude to the fans.
The banning of anti-FAI material from matches.
The constant shifting of the goalposts when he comes under scrutiny.

(And the criminal in case you think I'm making it up)

The bung he took from FIFA to shut up about being robbed by France. How that was not his undoing is the most shocking thing.
His behaviour in the aftermath of that entire France debacle. Demanding a 33rd team in the World Cup turning the team into a laughing stock.

Washing money and hiding it from his wife through a 'bridging loan' months out from handing MON a massive contract.

Moving sideways in an organisation, creating a new role so he can still ride the UEFA and FIFA gravy train in an attempt to avoid accountability for the above tax fraud and possible money laundering.

He's a parasite

24-03-2019 11:28PM

The FAI is a farcical organisation. Removing Delaney won't really solve a whole lot. He is the symptom of a far greater disease. His predecessors were every bit as rotten to the core...worse arguably. His successor will be a mere puppet on a string

And if there was an inquiry it would be crooks investigating more crooks. I would say it would be a quick whitewash because anything thorough could see many skeletons flying out of many closets

OldMrBrennan83 · 24-03-2019 11:32PM

More from Kerr.

https://twitter.com/VMSportIE/status/1109902083040382977?s=19

johnnyryan89 · 24-03-2019 11:32PM

CatFromHue wrote: »

He's paid far far too much, is very evasive with the press, sings republican songs, the 10 year ticket fiasco, has overseen an organisation that is now struggling, asked to be an extra team at the World Cup, took a pay off of 5m to shut up about it, anti FAI posters are banned at home games, and is paid far far too much.

That's just off the top of my head, I'm sure others will be able to add to it.

Should have been enough for anybody to be given their p45

mikeym · 24-03-2019 11:36PM

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

More from Kerr.

https://twitter.com/VMSportIE/status/1109902083040382977?s=19

:eek:

Dots1982 · 24-03-2019 11:46PM

Father Hernandez wrote: »

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Washing money and hiding it from his wife through a 'bridging loan' months out from handing MON a massive contract.

The details of the bridging loan actually only came out in Delaney’s divorce proceedings so saying the loan was an attempt to hide money from his ex-wife is baseless speculation unless you have knowledge that he tried to hide the money from the divorce court. Any evidence of that hasn’t appeared in any of the press reports I believe.

We’ll see what the whistleblower has to say when he/she stories are in the open but the present story actually doesn’t amount to all that much.

Delaney is a politically toxic figure who has surrounded himself with cronies and being in a job on a generous wage for too long in an era when Ireland has had a poor football team playing sterile football. This is his biggest problem and the biggest issue people ultimately have with him.

.G. · 24-03-2019 11:55PM

In agreement with most of whats been laid at his door in the thread.

One of my gripes in addition to those is he runs the organisation and he runs it so well he needed to lend it money cos it didn't have any cash flow and the fact it was never declared. If the company you run needs you to lend it money, you aren't running it very well, given what he's paid thats a major red flag.

And giving MON a new deal when the vast majority of people knew it was a bad idea as born out a few months later when he had to sack him, costing his organisation more money in the process.

25-03-2019 12:03AM

if one figure of Greek mythology could represent the FAI it would be Hydra. Chop one of the heads off and more serpents grow back in place

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joeysoap · 25-03-2019 12:06AM

I assume all clubs have got all money due to them from UEFA?

I heard that when Dundalk were earning the €6m in 2016 they had to take out two loans from their bank to pay wages etc.

And from reports at the time FAI/LOI did not do them any favour with leasing the Aviva for the Legia match ( nearly €600,000 collected, after FAI costs €200 000 cleared)

25-03-2019 12:08AM

Necro wrote: »

Lemme see if I can name everything.

Tax fraud, corruption, possible money laundering.
That's just the criminal element.

The stagnation of Irish football under his tenure.
His monstrous salary.
The cronyism and blatant 'jobs for the lads' structure in the FAI.

His overall attitude to the fans.
The banning of anti-FAI material from matches.
The constant shifting of the goalposts when he comes under scrutiny.

(And the criminal in case you think I'm making it up)

The bung he took from FIFA to shut up about being robbed by France. How that was not his undoing is the most shocking thing.
His behaviour in the aftermath of that entire France debacle. Demanding a 33rd team in the World Cup turning the team into a laughing stock.

Washing money and hiding it from his wife through a 'bridging loan' months out from handing MON a massive contract.

Moving sideways in an organisation, creating a new role so he can still ride the UEFA and FIFA gravy train in an attempt to avoid accountability for the above tax fraud and possible money laundering.

Did I get everything? I don't care about the rebel songs tbh.

There is so much to lay at Delaney's door about his involvement with football in this country, that to engage in ugly and idle speculation about his marriage breakdown is not only dangerous and probably defamatory but also completely unnecessary.

D14Rugby · 25-03-2019 12:18AM

joeysoap wrote: »

I assume all clubs have got all money due to them from UEFA?

I heard that when Dundalk were earning the €6m in 2016 they had to take out two loans from their bank to pay wages etc.

And from reports at the time FAI/LOI did not do them any favour with leasing the Aviva for the Legia match ( nearly €600,000 collected, after FAI costs €200 000 cleared)

They get the UEFA prize money directly but UEFA give the associations money to distribute to clubs for stuff like youth development and that hasn't been handed over yet. Pushing a year now I think.

John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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