This is how it's (supposed to be) done

peasant · 23-03-2019 11:12PM #1

Mutual respect and humanity instead of hatred and prejudice

https://twitter.com/HHShkMohd/status/1109124817888915461/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1109124817888915461&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fglobalnews.ca%2Fnews%2F5088075%2Fburj-khalifa-jacinda-ardern%2F

Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the prime minister of the United Arab Emirates and ruler of Dubai, tweeted a photo of the Burj Khalifa on Friday.

“Thank you PM Jacinda Ardern and New Zealand for your sincere empathy and support that has won the respect of 1.5 billion Muslims after the terrorist attack that shook the Muslim community around the world,” he tweeted.

Franz Von Peppercorn · 23-03-2019 11:13PM

A decent sheikh.

MeMen2_MoRi_ · 24-03-2019 12:16AM

peasant wrote: »

Mutual respect and humanity instead of hatred and prejudice

https://twitter.com/HHShkMohd/status/1109124817888915461/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1109124817888915461&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fglobalnews.ca%2Fnews%2F5088075%2Fburj-khalifa-jacinda-ardern%2F

Sheikh Mohammed Bin Rashid Al Maktoum, the prime minister of the United Arab Emirates and ruler of Dubai, tweeted a photo of the Burj Khalifa on Friday.

“Thank you PM Jacinda Ardern and New Zealand for your sincere empathy and support that has won the respect of 1.5 billion Muslims after the terrorist attack that shook the Muslim community around the world,” he tweeted.

"Mutual respect"? Haven't seen this with regards an Islamic terrorist attack?

*Devil's advocate*

Your Face · 24-03-2019 12:18AM

Do they still have the death penalty?

markodaly · 24-03-2019 12:22AM

Yes, the UAE, a bastion of peace, respect and mutual harmony.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/08/29/the-united-arab-emirates-and-saudi-arabia-are-aiding-terrorists-in-yemen/?utm_term=.b29838f34cc1

At the same time we are reading about the horrific bombing that killed 44 children, new Associated Press reporting from Yemen has laid bare the fact that the UAE and Saudi Arabia have been busy cutting “secret deals with al-Qaida fighters, paying some to leave key cities and towns and letting others retreat with weapons, equipment and wads of looted cash … hundreds more were recruited to join the coalition itself.”

Franz Von Peppercorn · 24-03-2019 12:39AM

markodaly wrote: »

Yes, the UAE, a bastion of peace, respect and mutual harmony.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/08/29/the-united-arab-emirates-and-saudi-arabia-are-aiding-terrorists-in-yemen/?utm_term=.b29838f34cc1

Since the WP is firewalled it’s hard to see if it also talks about US support in the Yemen war.

El_Bee · 24-03-2019 11:17AM

markodaly wrote: »

Yes, the UAE, a bastion of peace, respect and mutual harmony.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/08/29/the-united-arab-emirates-and-saudi-arabia-are-aiding-terrorists-in-yemen/?utm_term=.b29838f34cc1

Dude they projected an image onto one of their buildings one hand washes the other.

Wibbs · 24-03-2019 11:21AM

On the surface... Mostly I see it as clumsy marketing by a shabby little state(and grandstanding for feels in the first place). Maybe that's the cynic in me, but it takes one to know one.

peasant · 24-03-2019 11:27AM

Wibbs wrote: »

On the surface... Mostly I see it as clumsy marketing by a shabby little state(and grandstanding for feels in the first place). Maybe that's the cynic in me, but it takes one to know one.

or...

...one could see it as a first step into the right direction to stop the spiraling hatred.

Yeees, of course, it's a ll a bit touchy-feely, superficial and social-media-y...but hey, so is everything these days.

Sonics2k · 24-03-2019 11:28AM

Your Face wrote: »

Do they still have the death penalty?

I mean, so does the US?

I don't really see what point you're trying to make though.

ToddyDoody · 24-03-2019 11:29AM

If only Christianity and Islam weren't both the one true faiths.

MintyMagnum · 24-03-2019 11:36AM

ToddyDoody wrote: »

If only Christianity and Islam weren't both the one true faiths.

& Jews God's Chosen People

ToddyDoody · 24-03-2019 11:38AM

MintyMagnum wrote: »

& Jews the Chosen People

But I don't think Judaism looks for converts, unlike Islam and Christianity. Thereby they're not on the same collision course.

c.p.w.g.w · 24-03-2019 11:40AM

MintyMagnum wrote: »

& Jews God's Chosen People

If they really are god's chosen people how do they explain 1939-1945

Mike Oxlong · 24-03-2019 11:41AM

That NZ premier is getting on my wick a little...her need to make herself the centre of attention after this tragedy is quite obsessive....will she perhaps ask the ruler of a nation with indentured slavery to remove her image from the building ...or is propaganda the winner here for both

BeerWolf · 24-03-2019 11:44AM

"Shook the world" ... as awful as the event was, the frequent mass murders of Christians in the ME seems to be ignored? Guess the difference is this happened to 'minorities' in a Western country to warrant mass media coverage. :rolleyes:

corner of hells · 24-03-2019 11:48AM

Mike Oxlong wrote: »

That NZ premier is getting on my wick a little...her need to make herself the centre of attention after this tragedy is quite obsessive....will she perhaps ask the ruler of a nation with indentured slavery to remove her image from the building ...or is propaganda the winner here for both

She probably should've have said nothing or maybe just mention " thoughts and prayers".

Yurt2 · 24-03-2019 11:52AM

Mike Oxlong wrote: »

That NZ premier is getting on my wick a little...her need to make herself the centre of attention after this tragedy is quite obsessive....will she perhaps ask the ruler of a nation with indentured slavery to remove her image from the building ...or is propaganda the winner here for both

I think she's shown excellent, and authentic, national leadership. A PM should be much more than a CEO / administrator in chief type figure we've become accustomed to - they should be emotionally and intellectually equipped to show moral courage and leadership during times of national crisis. Unlike most 'leadership assembly line' politicians, she has an air of authenticity about her.

Wibbs · 24-03-2019 12:04PM

BeerWolf wrote: »

"Shook the world" ... as awful as the event was, the frequent mass murders of Christians in the ME seems to be ignored? Guess the difference is this happened to 'minorities' in a Western country to warrant mass media coverage. :rolleyes:

I would say it's much more than that and a littler nastier too under the surface. Mass murders of any faith or sort are generally ignored by western media because in the vast majority of cases it's brown people being murdered by other brown people(or by pale people by proxy or technology). If pale people were getting murdered in similar numbers the poo would hit the fan. When brown people are murdered by pale people in majority pale countries the poo hits the fan because it's local and suburban and makes us pale people look bad. Add in either "our culture is best culture" or the opposing "Pale people are to blame for all badness", both generally opinions majority held by pale people and you get the craw thumping. Mix all that in a bowl of always on news and social media and you get the craw thumbing and temporary and simplistic responses to long standing and complex problems. Thoughts and prayers, hearts and minds. Blah. Until the next event that can be mewled over in a picture.

Wibbs · 24-03-2019 12:06PM

I love the word and current currency of the word "authentic" in a world that is usually anything but. All too often it has the sniff of the temporary gesture, the photogenic feels, never mind the quality, feel the width.

Uncharted · 24-03-2019 12:11PM

As any 'world leader' will attest, never let a good crisis go to waste.

Wibbs · 24-03-2019 12:12PM

peasant wrote: »

or...

...one could see it as a first step into the right direction to stop the spiraling hatred.

Yeees, of course, it's a ll a bit touchy-feely, superficial and social-media-y...but hey, so is everything these days.

Oh I see your point P, but this idea that "love conquers all" is a pretty recent notion. The plain fact is that every single successful and safe culture in history got that way and remained that way because of the use of and continuing threat of force, both economically and militarily. Try finding one that didn't.

Yurt2 · 24-03-2019 12:17PM

Wibbs wrote: »

I love the word and current currency of the word "authentic" in a world that is usually anything but. All too often it has the sniff of the temporary gesture, the photogenic feels, never mind the quality, feel the width.

Hate to disagree, but what strikes me about Ardern is that she's from a background that isn't tainted by BS. Her dad was a frontline copper and her mother worked in a cafeteria. She's from a provincial NZ city and went to an unfashionable university away from the great and good in Auckland and Wellington. She's very much from the periphery and worked her way to the centre of public life in NZ. That's actually pretty rare in modern professionalised politics.

Most PMs and Presidents if you dig into their background had the typical private school education / elite university pipeline or a major leg up handed to them by their family.

Ardern strikes me as a lot more grounded than the groomed Macron, Trudeau or Varadkars of this world.

peasant · 24-03-2019 12:20PM

Wibbs wrote: »

Oh I see your point P, but this idea that "love conquers all" is a pretty recent notion. The plain fact is that every single successful and safe culture in history got that way and remained that way because of the use of and continuing threat of force, both economically and militarily. Try finding one that didn't.

I don't see a "love conquers all" message in there anywhere.

The NZ prime minister showed some real compassion and action (refusing to say the name of the perpetrator and immediately imposing a weapons ban)...the sheikh is saying "thank you"

That's all it is...the simple, decent thing to do..."Thank you"

So little and yet so much in today's world. Winding down the hysteria with some common civility and decency.

"Thank you for doing the decent thing"

We should try it more often, it even works on a purely personal level.:D

DrumSteve · 24-03-2019 02:41PM

Manifest wrote: »

Tbh I find it a bit cringey her wearing the hijabi headscarf thing.

Would be like Trump wearing a sombrero after a bunch of Mexicans got shot.

Trump would dress up as one of the Three Amigos if it came to it.

Uncharted · 24-03-2019 02:42PM

antigravity2 wrote: »

This may seem a little off topic................

Ya reckon....

24-03-2019 02:47PM

Whatever the motivation behind the gesture, at least it acknowledges the NZ PM.

She came across as a very dignified and measured person, very impressive.

Wibbs · 24-03-2019 03:49PM

Candie wrote: »

Whatever the motivation behind the gesture, at least it acknowledges the NZ PM.

It's just me C, but I find it bloody difficult to ignore one in favour of the other. Note the first part that left out of the OP: New Zealand today fell silent in honour of the mosque attacks' martyrs. "Martyrs" is quite the loaded word within the culture.

Never mind that said "prince" lords over a shabby little Christmas bauble in the desert built and continuing to be built on slave labour, where women and anybody that isn't a native born Emirate man are second class citizens, where "equality" awards are only handed out to men, where dissenting voices are "disappeared" or imprisoned, including yer man's daughters, where even a journalist Facebook posts have put them in gaol and they're part of the Saudi coalition screwing up Yemen with serious human rights violations, they even had the hard bloody neck to hold a "World tolerance summit" in the place last year. That's up there with 1930's Germany holding a Jewish World summit.

Getting praise from a snake is no praise and there's usually an angle.

Your Face · 24-03-2019 04:30PM

Sonics2k wrote: »

I mean, so does the US?

I don't really see what point you're trying to make though.

The thread not about the USA.

The USA is a fascinating country but some people are obsessed.

This thread is about UAE, maybe the initials confused you.

peasant · 24-03-2019 04:32PM

Your Face wrote: »

This thread is about UAE, maybe the initials confused you.

actually this thread is about saying "Thank you"

Your Face · 24-03-2019 04:43PM

peasant wrote: »

actually this thread is about saying "Thank you"

That's very naive.

This is how it's (supposed to be) done

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