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  • #2162
    AndrewJRenko
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,686 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    07Lapierre wrote: »
    Which would suggest visibility is not the be all and end all of road safety. IMO it suggests lack of observation / awareness / inexperience / speed etc.are greater risks.

    Indeed - hi-vis is a solution looking for a problem.


  • #2163
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    site_owner wrote: »
    I remember about 5 years ago, on the clontarf cycle track, a chap appearing around the bend at the sheds with the strangest set up i had ever seen.

    A non reflective hi viz jacket and a small blinky led light on the bars.
    The strange thing was, He had the light pointing towards him in an apparent effort to light up his hi viz.

    It didnt work very well at all.

    I saw a guy today on the Grand Canal cycle route with pretty much this set up! He had a light on the handlebar pointed in at his fluorescent tabard. It was eye-catching, in that it caused me to gaze at him intently wondering whether he'd really meant to use a light to illuminate his hi-viz.


  • #2164
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    I don't really get this

    https://twitter.com/MACofSA/status/1084930734467366912


  • #2165
    magicbastarder
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    as soon as i saw it was australian...


  • #2166
    check_six
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,245 ✭✭✭check_six


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    as soon as i saw it was australian...

    Yeah, I'm struggling to get my head around the thinking that led to that video being created. The next logical step is to encourage people to avoid carrying sharp objects in their pockets lest they scrape the paintwork as they bounce off the bonnet of the car that hits them.

    Aside from anything else, the lady is wearing a bike helmet in the shop. In. The. Shop. I'm presuming she would be at least jailed (along with the film crew, of course) if not wearing the helmet.


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  • #2167
    cdaly_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,440 ✭✭✭cdaly_


    Hurrache wrote: »
    I don't really get this

    https://twitter.com/MACofSA/status/1084930734467366912

    However, there's https://twitter.com/baoigheallain/status/935789588425117696 in the comments to a linked article at https://nickhubble.bike/2018/01/18/on-why-be-safe-be-seen-is-nonsense/ which notes a much greater level of respect and awareness granted to a kid cycling to school in her uniform instead of hi-vis...


  • #2168
    [Deleted User]
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    Hurrache wrote: »
    I don't really get this

    https://twitter.com/MACofSA/status/1084930734467366912

    Mac sponsored the queen stage of the tour down under today...... the Be Safe Be Seen MAC Stage 6 - Santos Tour Down Under. I kid you not.


  • #2169
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    For a moment I thought you were talking about the make up company. Either way, I'm not sure which is more bizarre.


  • #2170
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://twitter.com/CHAIRRDRF/status/1094660970385948672


  • #2171
    Duffryman
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    Another thread started this morning.....

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057955346


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  • #2172
    Chips Lovell
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    Duffryman wrote: »
    Another thread started this morning.....

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057955346

    here-be-dragons.png


  • #2173
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    https://twitter.com/ianwalker/status/1099583649199071232

    It does suggest that the RSA's preferred solution for walking and cycling in those months with low sun at commuting time is, at the very least, not helpful.

    That is, the cover-everything-with-yellow advice.


  • #2174
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    This is depressing. The RSA is giving out this tat to schoolkids to get them to wear hi-vis at all times!

    https://twitter.com/san_madd/status/1106273746690682885


  • #2175
    [Deleted User]
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    Yellow, Green or Orange???? I really hope mine doesn't get one or she'll have a melt down over pink not being on the list of colours to choose from :D


  • #2176
    rubadub
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,388 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    The Church of RSAs pledge, the little feckers will be looking for a card with money. Then when they hit 18 going on a dark clothes bender.

    They actually do call it a pledge!

    https://misshallinanculleens.weebly.com/news/category/sphe
    Hi-Glo Silver
    8/1/2019 0 Comments

    Today we were learning about the importance of wearing hi-vis clothes when out playing, walking or cycling. We all took the Hi-Glo Silver pledge today.
    When I walk or cycle, night or day,
    after school or when I go to play,
    I promise to make sure that I am seen,
    In reflective clothing that is bright orange, yellow or green.
    "Be Safe, Be Seen"
    We are going to take part in the Hi-Glo Silver Competition. We are going to design a poster - the one which will be best seen in the dark will win. We will hold a class competition first and then pick one winner to represent 2nd Class in Culleens. Get designing.
    You can play a game from the RSA called Snake and Hazards Game here.
    Remember: Wear bright, high-visibility clothing - both day and night.
    ​Here we are wearing our wristbands.

    the horse is "hi glo silver"
    hi-glo_orig.jpg

    The RSA has a cowboy too, well looking at recent things in the media they have a rake of cowboys working there.

    NO%20FEE%20RSA%20HI%20GLO%20SILVER%207.jpg

    http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Road%20Safety/Newsletters/RSA%20Educational%20News%202018%20WEB%20(1).pdf


  • #2177
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    They may be hearing from Primus's legal team at some point.
    tumblr_inline_or40u5pJpx1rn6s55_400.gif


  • #2178
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 15,661 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Thanks Hurrache, now I've that song stuck in my head.


  • #2179
    Hurrache
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,372 ✭✭✭✭Hurrache


    It's an ear-worm alright!


  • #2180
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,279 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Walkers should be fined for no high-vis vest
    THE Cathaoirleach of Mayo County Council’s Roads and Transportation Strategic Policy Committee (SPC) has reiterated his call for bylaws to be introduced so that fines can be issues to pedestrians not wearing high-visibility vest in non-lit areas.
    http://www.mayonews.ie/news/33435-walkers-should-be-fined-for-no-high-vis-vest


  • #2181
    Chips Lovell
    Moderators, Politics Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 24,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Chips Lovell


    rubadub wrote: »
    The RSA has a cowboy too, well looking at recent things in the media they have a rake of cowboys working there.

    A high viz cowboy hat is that kind of things I'd wear, shirtless, at a rave.


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  • #2182
    BrianHenryIE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 221 ✭✭BrianHenryIE


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    Walkers should be fined for no high-vis vest
    THE Cathaoirleach of Mayo County Council’s Roads and Transportation Strategic Policy Committee (SPC) has reiterated his call for bylaws to be introduced so that fines can be issues to pedestrians not wearing high-visibility vest in non-lit areas.
    http://www.mayonews.ie/news/33435-walkers-should-be-fined-for-no-high-vis-vest


    He's just trying to stimulate the local economy, since the vests are made in Mayo!


    https://www.linkedin.com/company/portwest/


  • #2183
    magicbastarder
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    https://twitter.com/HowSoonHathTime/status/1115300738610212869


  • #2184
    Fighting Tao
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,495 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    magicbastarder wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/HowSoonHathTime/status/1115300738610212869

    So they have wasted millions of euro of public funds? Heads should roll!


  • #2185
    Pinch Flat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    The Facinstion with hi vis has been a waste of time. Change people’s attitudes, don’t blame the victim


  • #2186
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Over in the dash cam thread there is a disturbing video of someone being hit, full on, middle of the sunniest day, on an empty road with such force so as to cause the to somersault multiple times. They are wearing full council gear, orange trousers and jacket with Hi Vis trimmings and the guy beside him has the heavy Hi Vis overcoat in Bright Yellow and reflective strips. As with everything in life, if you don't look, you will never see.


  • #2187
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Like a fish out of water, hi-viz in the Netherlands:
    https://twitter.com/pbergsen/status/1125824443996090370


  • #2188
    magicbastarder
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    Gardaí had to cut short a checkpoint along one of Longford’s busiest roads earlier this year because of the dangers posed by a pedestrian out walking who was wearing dark clothes and who turned down the offer of wearing a high vis jacket.
    ...
    It was alleged Mr Kenny, at around that point, ventured out walking along the busy route wearing dark trousers and a jumper but with no high vis jacket or other bright paraphernalia which would identify him as a pedestrian.
    https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/433409/edgeworthstown-man-fined-for-refusing-to-wear-high-vis-jacket.html


  • #2189
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,994 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    For **** sake, Gardai should have had their hands rapped by their super, disgraceful


  • #2190
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    Does the road have a footpath? Since it's a very busy road, I presume it has lighting? He doesn't seem to have broken any law at all, though I suppose if it's a narrow-laned, busy road with no lighting and no footpath they might have reason to assume his journey would be too hazardous, but then you'd have to wonder why people are allowed to design main roads like that, or why a super-dangerous road is rendered acceptably safe by the addition of a pretty modest conspicuity aid.

    On the face of it, the gardaí seem to be having praise heaped on them for harassing somebody who was doing nothing illegal, or possibly all that dangerous.


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  • #2191
    tomasrojo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,908 ✭✭✭✭tomasrojo


    I guess this is the statute they were referring to:
    34. A pedestrian shall exercise care and take all reasonable precautions to avoid causing danger or inconvenience to traffic and other pedestrians
    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/eli/1964/si/294/made/en/print

    I think the reason they charged him probably had a lot to do with feeling that they'd better take him off the road for his own good (don't know the road, so maybe they're right, but if the road is that dangerous a very modest conspicuity aid isn't going to actually make it safe), which led them to drop the checkpoint they were manning, and this was all they could find to charge him with.


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