Hi vis discussion thread (read post #1)

07Lapierre wrote: »

Which would suggest visibility is not the be all and end all of road safety. IMO it suggests lack of observation / awareness / inexperience / speed etc.are greater risks.

Indeed - hi-vis is a solution looking for a problem.

site_owner wrote: »

I remember about 5 years ago, on the clontarf cycle track, a chap appearing around the bend at the sheds with the strangest set up i had ever seen.

A non reflective hi viz jacket and a small blinky led light on the bars.
The strange thing was, He had the light pointing towards him in an apparent effort to light up his hi viz.

It didnt work very well at all.

I saw a guy today on the Grand Canal cycle route with pretty much this set up! He had a light on the handlebar pointed in at his fluorescent tabard. It was eye-catching, in that it caused me to gaze at him intently wondering whether he'd really meant to use a light to illuminate his hi-viz.

I don't really get this

https://twitter.com/MACofSA/status/1084930734467366912

as soon as i saw it was australian...

check_six

magicbastarder wrote: »

as soon as i saw it was australian...

Yeah, I'm struggling to get my head around the thinking that led to that video being created. The next logical step is to encourage people to avoid carrying sharp objects in their pockets lest they scrape the paintwork as they bounce off the bonnet of the car that hits them.

Aside from anything else, the lady is wearing a bike helmet in the shop. In. The. Shop. I'm presuming she would be at least jailed (along with the film crew, of course) if not wearing the helmet.

cdaly_

Hurrache wrote: »

I don't really get this

https://twitter.com/MACofSA/status/1084930734467366912

However, there's https://twitter.com/baoigheallain/status/935789588425117696 in the comments to a linked article at https://nickhubble.bike/2018/01/18/on-why-be-safe-be-seen-is-nonsense/ which notes a much greater level of respect and awareness granted to a kid cycling to school in her uniform instead of hi-vis...

Hurrache wrote: »

I don't really get this

https://twitter.com/MACofSA/status/1084930734467366912

Mac sponsored the queen stage of the tour down under today...... the Be Safe Be Seen MAC Stage 6 - Santos Tour Down Under. I kid you not.

For a moment I thought you were talking about the make up company. Either way, I'm not sure which is more bizarre.

https://twitter.com/CHAIRRDRF/status/1094660970385948672

Duffryman

Another thread started this morning.....

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057955346

Chips Lovell

Duffryman wrote: »

Another thread started this morning.....

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057955346

https://twitter.com/ianwalker/status/1099583649199071232

It does suggest that the RSA's preferred solution for walking and cycling in those months with low sun at commuting time is, at the very least, not helpful.

That is, the cover-everything-with-yellow advice.

Fighting Tao

This is depressing. The RSA is giving out this tat to schoolkids to get them to wear hi-vis at all times!

https://twitter.com/san_madd/status/1106273746690682885

http://www.rsa.ie/Documents/Road%20Safety/Newsletters/RSA%20Educational%20News%202018%20WEB%20(1).pdf

Yellow, Green or Orange???? I really hope mine doesn't get one or she'll have a melt down over pink not being on the list of colours to choose from

rubadub

The Church of RSAs pledge, the little feckers will be looking for a card with money. Then when they hit 18 going on a dark clothes bender.

They actually do call it a pledge!

https://misshallinanculleens.weebly.com/news/category/sphe

Hi-Glo Silver
8/1/2019 0 Comments

Today we were learning about the importance of wearing hi-vis clothes when out playing, walking or cycling. We all took the Hi-Glo Silver pledge today.
When I walk or cycle, night or day,
after school or when I go to play,
I promise to make sure that I am seen,
In reflective clothing that is bright orange, yellow or green.
"Be Safe, Be Seen"
We are going to take part in the Hi-Glo Silver Competition. We are going to design a poster - the one which will be best seen in the dark will win. We will hold a class competition first and then pick one winner to represent 2nd Class in Culleens. Get designing.
You can play a game from the RSA called Snake and Hazards Game here.
Remember: Wear bright, high-visibility clothing - both day and night.
Here we are wearing our wristbands.

the horse is "hi glo silver"

The RSA has a cowboy too, well looking at recent things in the media they have a rake of cowboys working there.

NO%20FEE%20RSA%20HI%20GLO%20SILVER%207.jpg

NO%20FEE%20RSA%20HI%20GLO%20SILVER%207.jpg

They may be hearing from Primus's legal team at some point.

Thanks Hurrache, now I've that song stuck in my head.

It's an ear-worm alright!

Walkers should be fined for no high-vis vest
THE Cathaoirleach of Mayo County Council’s Roads and Transportation Strategic Policy Committee (SPC) has reiterated his call for bylaws to be introduced so that fines can be issues to pedestrians not wearing high-visibility vest in non-lit areas.
http://www.mayonews.ie/news/33435-walkers-should-be-fined-for-no-high-vis-vest

Chips Lovell

rubadub wrote: »

The RSA has a cowboy too, well looking at recent things in the media they have a rake of cowboys working there.

A high viz cowboy hat is that kind of things I'd wear, shirtless, at a rave.

BrianHenryIE

magicbastarder wrote: »

Walkers should be fined for no high-vis vest
THE Cathaoirleach of Mayo County Council’s Roads and Transportation Strategic Policy Committee (SPC) has reiterated his call for bylaws to be introduced so that fines can be issues to pedestrians not wearing high-visibility vest in non-lit areas.
http://www.mayonews.ie/news/33435-walkers-should-be-fined-for-no-high-vis-vest

He's just trying to stimulate the local economy, since the vests are made in Mayo!

https://www.linkedin.com/company/portwest/

https://twitter.com/HowSoonHathTime/status/1115300738610212869

Fighting Tao

magicbastarder wrote: »

https://twitter.com/HowSoonHathTime/status/1115300738610212869

So they have wasted millions of euro of public funds? Heads should roll!

Pinch Flat

The Facinstion with hi vis has been a waste of time. Change people’s attitudes, don’t blame the victim

CramCycle

Over in the dash cam thread there is a disturbing video of someone being hit, full on, middle of the sunniest day, on an empty road with such force so as to cause the to somersault multiple times. They are wearing full council gear, orange trousers and jacket with Hi Vis trimmings and the guy beside him has the heavy Hi Vis overcoat in Bright Yellow and reflective strips. As with everything in life, if you don't look, you will never see.

Like a fish out of water, hi-viz in the Netherlands:
https://twitter.com/pbergsen/status/1125824443996090370

https://www.longfordleader.ie/news/home/433409/edgeworthstown-man-fined-for-refusing-to-wear-high-vis-jacket.html

Gardaí had to cut short a checkpoint along one of Longford’s busiest roads earlier this year because of the dangers posed by a pedestrian out walking who was wearing dark clothes and who turned down the offer of wearing a high vis jacket.
...
It was alleged Mr Kenny, at around that point, ventured out walking along the busy route wearing dark trousers and a jumper but with no high vis jacket or other bright paraphernalia which would identify him as a pedestrian.

CramCycle

For **** sake, Gardai should have had their hands rapped by their super, disgraceful

Does the road have a footpath? Since it's a very busy road, I presume it has lighting? He doesn't seem to have broken any law at all, though I suppose if it's a narrow-laned, busy road with no lighting and no footpath they might have reason to assume his journey would be too hazardous, but then you'd have to wonder why people are allowed to design main roads like that, or why a super-dangerous road is rendered acceptably safe by the addition of a pretty modest conspicuity aid.

On the face of it, the gardaí seem to be having praise heaped on them for harassing somebody who was doing nothing illegal, or possibly all that dangerous.