Madeleine McCann

SusieBlue wrote: »

And I find it equally baffling that other people ignore the major logistics issues and alarm bells regarding the McCanns being responsible.

I’ve researched this for years, I’ve read the files, and based on the information currently available I don’t think it’s likely they’re responsible.
If conclusive evidence arose tomorrow implicating the parents I’d accept that 100%.

I don’t believe they aren’t responsible because I think they are innocent at all costs. I don’t think they’re responsible in the absence of any evidence I find conclusive enough to allude to their guilt.

It’s a divisive issue.

That quote means the opposite of what you believe. Alright I know it maybe is a typo.

cgcsb wrote: »

eh bring the jaysis twins, oh right they cant walk, they're rohypnolled off their box. Leave them with your peado mate dave so.

Exactly what I've come to expect tbh.


Well done.

SusieBlue wrote: »

And I find it equally baffling that other people ignore the major logistics issues and alarm bells regarding the McCanns being responsible.

Because there's a few hours where we don't know wtf happened is not an excuse to ignore all the other very very concerning factors.

SusieBlue wrote: »

I’ve researched this for years, I’ve read the files, and based on the evidence currently available I don’t think it’s likely they’re responsible.
If conclusive evidence arose tomorrow implicating the parents I’d accept that 100%.

They may not be responsible. But you have to be honest and admit there's some serious problems with this case and a lot of it doesn't add up or make sense. That doesn't mean they killed her, but I can't belive they can just all be ignored

SusieBlue wrote: »

I don’t believe they aren’t responsible because I think they are innocent at all costs. I don’t think they’re responsible in the absence of any evidence I find conclusive enough to allude to their guilt.

The lies.
The inconsistent statements from almost _all_ their buddy's.
So much so that Gerry even asked them to stop talking to the police!
The discrediting of some key people trying to help you. Martin grimes for one.


The list is just so long it's exhausting and while not evidence they're involved.


It does or should set of some major alarm bells.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

They had friends with them on that holiday. Surely one or two of them would have done everything in their power to assist and minded the twins while they searched.

I think the sedation was a thing for the Mcs. Had to be in control of that so they stayed close to the apartment. Just a theory, as the thread is full of such things!

I find this theory to be v likely. Even if they aren't responsible for the death/disappearance, I do think the kids were medically knocked out, the police even commented on the twins state at the time.

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

They had friends with them on that holiday. Surely one or two of them would have done everything in their power to assist and minded the twins while they searched.

I think the sedation was a thing for the Mcs. Had to be in control of that so they stayed close to the apartment. Just a theory, as the thread is full of such things!

I think it was the police who noticed that Kate was very nervous of their breathing and kept checking to see if they were breathing.


I thought this was really bizzare




Why would you be doing that

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

I could not help but smile at that. :P

The whole thing is bizarre, so I suppose anything goes. Main thing is to remain measured and calm about it all, just like yourself.

Probably shouldn't but I thought it was hillarious too.

cgcsb wrote: »

The McCanns as trained doctors had the luxury of foresight in this instance. Most accidents happen in the home, which no doubt they were acutely aware of. Knowing this they left their toddlers in an apartment alone, lots of sharp objects and hot water about. Even ignoring the possibility of child abduction this is an extremely risky situation to leave toddlers in, unless you eliminate the risk of self harm through sedation of course, and that gives you the confidence to leave them for prolonged periods.

Moving the goalposts again. You’re answering points I’m not even making.
You said you can confidently say if you weren’t found your mum would have shut down the shopping center until you were located.
I said luckily you were found so you can’t be making such assumptions, seeing as that situation didn’t arise and you have hindsight.

You are now going on (again) about how the kids were left alone. That’s not what we were discussing and is quite irrelevant.
You are being really disengeneous here by continuously referring back to that one point when it isn’t even the topic at hand.

TallGlass wrote: »

If she was abducted, what is the direction she was taken.

Again to highlight, this is an honest question.

I am looking out of interest at Google Maps, and there is quite a land mass and even sea mass, even after time has passed. Was anything ever found, CCTV, something disposed off?

There was little to no CCTV around the area.


Different times

limnam wrote: »

We don't know how they got rid of the body.


We do know they lied.


So the issue I have is they lied. Not that I don't know how they got rid of the body.


That's why it's not so much of an issue.


I have issue with what I know they did rather what I don't know they did


make sense?

Not really, because in order for them to be responsible they’d have had to commit their crime, concoct their plan and execute it flawlessly in 2.5hrs with no access to a smartphone, internet or a car.
In an unfamiliar location full of tourists.
You keep brushing it off but this is the absolute crux of the matter for me.

Someone mentioned the priest being annoyed with the mccanns? The guy in the documentary seemed to be very much on their side.

The sedation does seem like a smoking gun. The twins slept through the night with all hell breaking loose about them. People in and out of the appartment and I think they even slept through being moved to another apartment? That doesn't seem normal. Kate was also constantly checking their breathing during the night.. the fact she was an anesthesist before becoming a gp only adds fuel to the fire.

There was also some very dodgy individuals around the area those days.

The fridge and disposal theory amaral had come up with in the previous case. They had cut up a mannequin and proved it couldn't fit in the fridge.. it does very much look like that was a coereched confession and the uncle apparently confessed to his cellmate he had sold the kid for drugs..

The other interesting piece is the mccanns supposed dumping of a fridge.. if that is true and I'm not sure if there's credible evidence there is then I'd have to suspect the parents.

I thought the documentary was going down the road of blaming the parents but by the end it was completely switched to child trafficking..

I do think it's a pity Scotland yard weren't on the case from day one. In the Portuguese system you have a man who looks like had a playbook for these types of investigations.. that was wasted energy if it's not true..

I don't blame the mccanns re the private investigators. It looks like the Kennedys hired the US fraudsters.. was embarrassing that US crew were headed up by an Irish guy.

The stats in cases say it's nearly always someone known to the victim that's involved..

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

Who knew it was so easy to dispose of a body, just dump it in a bin and nobody would find it.

Why has nobody every thought of that before?

ever tried it?