Madeleine McCann

Johnson_76 · 22-03-2019 11:48PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

The NI guy. Who's worked in the most awful places for charity. Took a dislike to Gerry after a couple of minutes.

He doesn't have a likeable personality. The vast majority of people if asked based on what they've seen heard wouldn't like him.

It's ok to not like his personality, it doesn't make him a murder.

His public persona is calculated,controlled,arragont,egotistical. Pretty much any character trait that most people dislike in most people he has it.

It's fine. It's not really that relevant.

He has to be controlled and calculated, people need to understand he is a heart surgeon

cgcsb · 22-03-2019 11:48PM

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SusieBlue wrote: »

They don’t come across as cold to me.
They come across as warm & loving in any of the home footage I’ve seen of the family before Madeleines disappearance.
It’s possible for them to have made a stupid decision in leaving the children alone, & still be warm loving people.
They aren’t mutually exclusive concepts.

They might seem that way to you but actions speak louder than words. The kids were in creche every single day, and left on their own every single night. The McCanns were pretty routine about this its reasonable to think they behaved the same way at home in England, and of course as with every other adult human on the planet, past behavior is good indication of future behavior.

Spanish Eyes · 22-03-2019 11:49PM

dark crystal wrote: »

I'm not a lad and if you have proof that the McCann twins are being neglected by their parents, ring the Social Services in the UK and report it, otherwise it's pure unfounded nastiness.

This thread is becoming a cesspool.

Ah no it's not. It is a forum for people to discuss and theorise over the missing child. All theories are valid in the absence of any proof of anything else in this case.

There is a report button if you wish to alert a mod to any post you have an issue with.

limnam · 22-03-2019 11:50PM

dark crystal wrote: »

I'm not a lad and if you have proof that the McCann twins are being neglected by their parents, ring the Social Services in the UK and report it, otherwise it's pure unfounded nastiness.

This thread is becoming a cesspool.

They are suffering every day because of thier parents negelect.

every day the wake up, their sister is not there due to thier parents neglect.

Their whole world is a circus due to thier parents neglect.

I don't mind you defending them. But don't think for a minute those twins don't suffer because of thier parents neglect.

They live it _every_ day.

Plumbthedepths · 22-03-2019 11:50PM

limnam wrote:

His public persona is calculated,controlled,arragont,egotistical. Pretty much any character trait that most people dislike in most people he has it.

To be fair I would attribute his character to his profession. I would judge him on evidence not how controlled he appears.

limnam · 22-03-2019 11:51PM

Johnson_76 wrote: »

He has to be controlled and calculated, people need to understand he is a heart surgeon

He's not doing them live on tele is he?

iamwhoiam · 22-03-2019 11:51PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Other members of his family also gave witness statements. Strange that a BBC panorama programme claimed Smith retracted his witness statement. Mr Smith contacted Panorama to dispute their claim. To-date I don't think they gave a correction to the claim they broadcast. Also his family gave witness statements aswell. Smith also claimed his memory was triggered by the way GMcC moved and his demeanor as he descended the states on returning to the UK.

Yes i know . So he sees Gerry carry Sean and it triggers a memory of him
seeing a man months earlier in P da L carrying a child. I get that connection and I get the memory trigger
What I don't get is that he still remembered so many details about a random encounter that wasn't significant at the time .

cgcsb · 22-03-2019 11:51PM

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dark crystal wrote: »

I'm not a lad and if you have proof that the McCann twins are being neglected by their parents, ring the Social Services in the UK and report it, otherwise it's pure unfounded nastiness.

This thread is becoming a cesspool.

It's nastiness towards the parents, the children have my sympathies. I think the McCann parents have earned a fair bit of nastiness, why don't they just sue me. They probably might and all with all that find maddie money.

dark crystal · 22-03-2019 11:52PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Ah no it's not. It is a forum for people to discuss and theorise over the missing child. All theories are valid in the absence of any proof of anything else in this case.

There is a report button if you wish to alert a mod to any post you have an issue with.

I have reported it.

I have no issue with anyone discussing and theorising over the mystery of what happened to Madeleine on holiday.

I do have a problem with people saying the McCann twins are being brought up in a life of neglect with no proof of this claim. That's a very serious claim to make and one that shouldn't go unchallenged.

limnam · 22-03-2019 11:53PM

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

To be fair I would attribute his character to his profession. I would judge him on evidence not how controlled he appears.

It's not about judging him.

Some people are likeable have very likeable traits.

Gerry's public persona is not in the latter.

As I said, it's nothing to do with if he's guilty or not.

He's just doesn't display likeable traits.

Mike9832 · 22-03-2019 11:53PM

dark crystal wrote: »

I'm not a lad and if you have proof that the McCann twins are being neglected by their parents, ring the Social Services in the UK and report it, otherwise it's pure unfounded nastiness.

This thread is becoming a cesspool.

You know what he meant, stop being a drama queen

McCanns left Maddie and the twin's down that night

They left them

Now the twins have no big sister

Plumbthedepths · 22-03-2019 11:54PM

iamwhoiam wrote:

Yes i know . So he sees Gerry carry Sean and it triggers a memory of him seeing a man months earlier in P da L carrying a child. I get that connection and I get the memory trigger What I don't get is that he still remembered so many details about a random encounter that wasn't significant at the time .

Well the authorities here that interviewed him found him credible with no alterior motive . I answered another poster as to how a memory can be triggered by movement and demeanor. I was basically called a liar so not heading down that route again. I find all witness accounts are ok right up until the subject matter is identified. I'm leaving it at that regards Mr Smith.

cgcsb · 22-03-2019 11:55PM

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iamwhoiam wrote: »

Yes i know . So he sees Gerry carry Sean and it triggers a memory of him
seeing a man months earlier in P da L carrying a child. I get that connection and I get the memory trigger
What I don't get is that he still remembered so many details about a random encounter that wasn't significant at the time .

probably because the next morning when the world's eyes were on this small town it became relevant, so he discussed it with the family, thought of it again etc.

Spanish Eyes · 22-03-2019 11:55PM

limnam wrote: »

He's not doing them live on tele is he?

Sorry but I did LOL at that.

My late mother was in the care of several cardiologists and each and every one of them, whilst professional and spouting medic talk were amazing and empathetic.

OK, I am sure when in surgery it is a different matter, but many of us have to behave differently in our work/professions than we do within our family/friend circle.

TallGlass · 22-03-2019 11:56PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

I can see this thread getting locked.

Has taken a seriously odd turn TBH.

Plumbthedepths · 22-03-2019 11:56PM

dark crystal wrote:

I do have a problem with people saying the McCann twins are being brought up in a life of neglect with no proof of this claim. That's a very serious claim to make and one that shouldn't go unchallenged.

Whether you agree with the comment or not, there is evidence in the past that the McCanns have neglected their children. Since Madeline's disappearance I would imagine that behaviour changed.

dark crystal · 22-03-2019 11:56PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Mike9832 wrote: »

You know what he meant, stop being a drama queen

McCanns left Maddie and the twin's down that night

They left them

Now the twins have no big sister

Calling me names doesn't change the fact it he said the twins were being brought up in a life of neglect, cooking for themselves and walking themselves to school aged 5 are unfounded and scurrilous claims with no basis in actual fact.

yourdeadwright · 22-03-2019 11:57PM

Accident happened, parents hid body

Tristen Hissing Typhoon wrote: »

retro:electro wrote: »

Also, My heart broke for the mother of Rui Pedro, the little boy abducted and subsequently identified as being in a sex ring.
I used to think there is nothing on this earth that could be worse than losing a child, but for me, that is worse. Knowing he is alive but being used and abused by god knows who. I would not be able to go on. Jesus. God love her.

It also rebuts the theories put forward by others that if Madeline McCann was still alive that surely someone from the "underworld" would have come forward. Rui Pedro is a case where he was positively identified and police knew he was still alive but has never been found.

Quite the oppoiste there was zero money and time put into the Rui Pedro case incomparison to the Maddie on and yet they still managed to come up with images of the poor boy online , His mother to this day thinks he would have been found if the same resources where used for him

The Maddie case was Rui by 100 , the money and experts the publicity ,12 year later and still nothing ,
If anyone knew anything they'd come forward and receive a reward or tell info to get time cut short ,

limnam · 22-03-2019 11:57PM

TallGlass wrote: »

I can see this thread getting locked.

Has taken a seriously odd turn TBH.

It always does when there's a few hard questions been asked that are not liked.

iamwhoiam · 22-03-2019 11:58PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

TallGlass wrote: »

I can see this thread getting locked.

Has taken a seriously odd turn TBH.

I think it might be the intention

Spanish Eyes · 22-03-2019 11:58PM

dark crystal wrote: »

I have reported it.

I have no issue with anyone discussing and theorising over the mystery of what happened to Madeleine on holiday.

I do have a problem with people saying the McCann twins are being brought up in a life of neglect with no proof of this claim. That's a very serious claim to make and one that shouldn't go unchallenged.

Why do you care so much about kids in Rothley that you have never, and will never meet? I think that kind of over investment in a case is not good. Sorry.

The thread is about Madeleine. God help her wherever she is.

dark crystal · 22-03-2019 11:59PM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

It always does when there's a few hard questions been asked that are not liked.

What questions would they be?

cgcsb · 22-03-2019 11:59PM

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The gardaí here took Smith seriously, they got him to sign a statement, it's unlikely that the gardaí were in cahoots with the Algarve police man who had his book banned by the McCann's legal team. I had to laugh at the netflix documentary when the former police chief is criticised for profiting from a book, and then Kate McCann writes a book and nothing is said.

dark crystal · 23-03-2019 12:00AM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Why do you care so much about kids in Rothley that you have never, and will never meet? I think that kind of over investment in a case is not good. Sorry.

The thread is about Madeleine. God help her wherever she is.

Maybe ask that same question to the poster who accused them of being brought up in a life of neglect?

You're not sorry at all

SusieBlue · 23-03-2019 12:00AM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

The NI guy. Who's worked in the most awful places for charity. Took a dislike to Gerry after a couple of minutes.

He doesn't have a likeable personality. The vast majority of people if asked based on what they've seen heard wouldn't like him.

It's ok to not like his personality, it doesn't make him a murder.

His public persona is calculated,controlled,arragont,egotistical. Pretty much any character trait that most people dislike in most people he has it.

It's fine. It's not really that relevant.

You’re right, it’s really. You can be an unlikeable person, you can be arrogant and egotistical but that doesn’t mean you are cold with your children and neglect them.

And while I totally agree that Gerry does come across that way from a media perspective, that’s not how he comes across in the home videos and other recordings with his children.
In the scenes with his children he came across, warm, engaging and caring.

Spanish Eyes · 23-03-2019 12:01AM

TallGlass wrote: »

I can see this thread getting locked.

Has taken a seriously odd turn TBH.

Well I just hope that mods have the sense to delete posts and infract errant posters rather than shutting down the entire discussion.

Locking threads led to posters leaving in their droves a couple of years ago. Every subscriber to a thread was locked out, instead of those who were derailing or whatever.

Anyway it's mod decision at the end of the day.

I AM NOT BACKSTREET MODDING. Just to mention!

Spanish Eyes · 23-03-2019 12:03AM

dark crystal wrote: »

Maybe ask that same question to the poster who accused them of being brought up in a life of neglect?

You're not sorry at all

:eek:

limnam · 23-03-2019 12:03AM

dark crystal wrote: »

What questions would they be?

What act of deception did the McCanns do to make a priest come out in public and state he was deceived.

Warm, loving,caring,honest parents. Who deceived the good priest that took care of them, gave them the keys to the church.

This doesn't sound like the warm loving couple mentioned above.

What did they do

dark crystal · 23-03-2019 12:04AM

She wandered out herself, something happened (car accident/paedo)

limnam wrote: »

What act of deception did the McCanns do to make a priest come out in public and state he was deceived.

Warm, loving,caring,honest parents. Who deceived the good priest that took care of them, gave them the keys to the church.

This doesn't sound like the warm loving couple mentioned above.

What did they do

Ask him? How would anyone else have the answer to that question?

cgcsb · 23-03-2019 12:05AM

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yourdeadwright wrote: »

Quite the oppoiste there was zero money and time put into the Rui Pedro case incomparison to the Maddie on and yet they still managed to come up with images of the poor boy online , His mother to this day thinks he would have been found if the same resources where used for him

The Maddie case was Rui by 100 , the money and experts the publicity ,12 year later and still nothing ,
If anyone knew anything they'd come forward and receive a reward or tell info to get time cut short ,

That is tragic. I note the uncle who was locked up for it was indeed guilty of, effectively, killing the child but the cops just couldn't produce the goods in terms of evidence so they framed him. What scares me is the uncle is a run of the mill junkie, and somehow has contacts that will accept a child as payment. What kind of people are selling drugs these days?

Madeleine McCann

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