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John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,286 givyjoe
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    Jim Gazebo wrote: »
    You are either John Delaney or you are trolling. It's pretty simple. How anyone could defend that slimey *****.

    I wouldn't bother lads. He was asking the very same questions 7 months ago in another thread. Multiple people gave him excellent reasons why both the fai and john Delaney were not fit for purpose/incompetent. Now he's back asking the very same questions, without any answers himself. Bizarre stuff.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,037 The Talking Bread
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    I thought this guy had in his own words "given up" 3 days ago ?!
    Pretty evident his motive here iso just to get the last word in an online debate.
    So many contradiction laden povs


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 dundalkfc10
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    Journo on twitter telling YBIG, that they have hundreds of documents from FAI and there’s more to come on this story


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 Irishmale0399
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    Dots1982 wrote: »
    No point debating with you as you have incorrectly summarized my position.


    Position: FAI employee....Head of Sec. maybe???


    Too much HuHu Super - Glue when you are here here.. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,014 Corholio
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    Declan Rice taking the heat off of John for a few hours anyway :P


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 Irishmale0399
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    Corholio wrote: »
    Declan Rice taking the heat off of John for a few hours anyway :P


    Is he still singing OhhAhh Paul McGrath??


    But he cant deflect from Super JD....see the FAI offered to take the meeting with government ministers forward to the 3 April.


    Must be affraid more will come out.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,168 Beechwoodspark
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    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uZD8HKVKneI

    I hear they are blasting this loud out in Abbotstown


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,116 CrowdedHouse
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 D14Rugby
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    I can see all the usual suspects are out defending Delaney as if their lives depend on it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,113 asteroids over berlin
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    disappointed with the cooment of An Taoiseach - tis a matter for the FAI to address. Pathetic


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  • Posts: 45,738 [Deleted User]
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    I hope Delaney gets what is coming to him. Long overdue.


  • Site Banned Posts: 12,341 Faugheen
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    disappointed with the cooment of An Taoiseach - tis a matter for the FAI to address. Pathetic.

    What's he supposed to say?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,083 Fromvert
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    disappointed with the cooment of An Taoiseach - tis a matter for the FAI to address. Pathetic

    FIFA would step in straight away and issue a warning that a ban will be coming if the government gets involved in the FAI. Spain got a warning recently because a government official said the RFEF should elect a new President.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 kippy
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    Fromvert wrote: »
    FIFA would step in straight away and issue a warning that a ban will be coming if the government gets involved in the FAI. Spain got a warning recently because a government official said the RFEF should elect a new President.

    I suppose what he should have said was it was a matter for the FAI and the office of corporate enforcement/sport Ireland.
    Saying it was a matter for the FAI essentially infers that they be let at it.

    FIFA would want to keep their own house in order, but that's an entirely separate matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,879 johnnyryan89
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    Is he still singing OhhAhh Paul McGrath??


    But he cant deflect from Super JD....see the FAI offered to take the meeting with government ministers forward to the 3 April.


    Must be affraid more will come out.

    How considerate of our John. Move the meeting forward and before the U17s Euro evening so now the committee can attend the free drinks evening. Such a nice gesture.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,660 Fr Tod Umptious
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    kippy wrote: »
    I suppose what he should have said was it was a matter for the FAI and the office of corporate enforcement/sport Ireland.
    Saying it was a matter for the FAI essentially infers that they be let at it.

    FIFA would want to keep their own house in order, but that's an entirely separate matter.


    FIFA cut the head off their snake about 4 years ago.

    And how has that worked ?

    Not only has his successor continued with Qatar 2022 but he is also pushing to make it a 48 team tournament.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 Irishmale0399
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    How considerate of our John. Move the meeting forward and before the U17s Euro evening so now the committee can attend the free drinks evening. Such a nice gesture.


    Affraid of what they might find with the seven extra days.....:D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,399 kippy
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    FIFA cut the head off their snake about 4 years ago.

    And how has that worked ?

    Not only has his successor continued with Qatar 2022 but he is also pushing to make it a 48 team tournament.
    Ah you're back.
    Are you suggesting that getting rid of the top man changed nothing for FIFA, so why get rid of the FAI top man?


    FIFA didn't get their house in order as I've suggested. They got rid of a person who had become far too hot to handle. As I said they still have to get their house in order.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,660 Fr Tod Umptious
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    kippy wrote: »
    Ah you're back.
    Are you suggesting that getting rid of the top man changed nothing for FIFA, so why get rid of the FAI top man?


    FIFA didn't get their house in order as I've suggested. They got rid of a person who had become far too hot to handle. As I said they still have to get their house in order.

    But the very same applies to the FAI

    They have to get their house in order, and it has never been in order.

    I'm not against Delaney going, of his own will or being pushed, but I don't believe that getting rid of him is the magic bullet that many think it is, nor do I think his replacement will suddenly be doing the job for half the salary.

    Plus there is very little evidence so far to suggest that they guy has done anything improper.
    Pissed people off yes, but nothing illegal.

    Another poster posted a list of reasons why he should be sacked, most of the reasons were just gripes around ticket allocation.

    Hardly a international season goes by here without some fans complaining about ticket allocation.
    Only a few days ago someone was giving out about the FAI giving away free tickets, it would not surprise me if the same poster would be giving out about the lack of cheap tickets to a high profile game later on in the campaign.

    As I said before, if people want real change, stop going to the games.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,763 farna_boy
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    Maybe the solution to fixing the problem that is the FAI and John Delaney is just to create an all Ireland team under the primary guidance of the IFA.

    Like Fr Tod Umptious said, removing JD is probably not enough. The culture built up in the FAI is not going to just dissipate after he goes and I don't expect we would see any meaningful change.

    If there was enough support for this type of move, the way to force it through would be to get the LOI teams to join the IFA for the upcoming season. Without the LOI, there can be no national team.

    There would of course be problems for the LOI teams if they did this, such as how to handle entry to European competitions but if it meant a real improvement to their situations, such as prize money, marketing support and proper governance, maybe they could be convinced to push it through.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 26,611 OldMrBrennan83
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    farna_boy wrote: »
    Maybe the solution to fixing the problem that is the FAI and John Delaney is just to create an all Ireland team under the primary guidance of the IFA.

    Like Fr Tod Umptious said, removing JD is probably not enough. The culture built up in the FAI is not going to just dissipate after he goes and I don't expect we would see any meaningful change.

    If there was enough support for this type of move, the way to force it through would be to get the LOI teams to join the IFA for the upcoming season. Without the LOI, there can be no national team.

    There would of course be problems for the LOI teams if they did this, such as how to handle entry to European competitions but if it meant a real improvement to their situations, such as prize money, marketing support and proper governance, maybe they could be convinced to push it through.

    I sincerely hope you're joking. I'd take ten John Delaneys over selling out to that shower.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,659 Oat23
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    Merge with the Irish league. A league whose players routinely miss European games because they're on holiday in Ibiza.



    What a suggestion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,559 Hotblack Desiato
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    farna_boy wrote: »
    Without the LOI, there can be no national team.

    Yep backbone of the team there :rolleyes:

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,660 Fr Tod Umptious
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    Yep backbone of the team there :rolleyes:

    I think you misunderstood.

    In order to have an international team a country needs a national league.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,660 Fr Tod Umptious
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    farna_boy wrote: »
    Maybe the solution to fixing the problem that is the FAI and John Delaney is just to create an all Ireland team under the primary guidance of the IFA.

    Like Fr Tod Umptious said, removing JD is probably not enough. The culture built up in the FAI is not going to just dissipate after he goes and I don't expect we would see any meaningful change.

    If there was enough support for this type of move, the way to force it through would be to get the LOI teams to join the IFA for the upcoming season. Without the LOI, there can be no national team.

    There would of course be problems for the LOI teams if they did this, such as how to handle entry to European competitions but if it meant a real improvement to their situations, such as prize money, marketing support and proper governance, maybe they could be convinced to push it through.

    That's nuts on so many different levels.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,559 Hotblack Desiato
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    I think you misunderstood.

    In order to have an international team a country needs a national league.

    They could declare a lower level league to be the national league. Wouldn't make any difference as the LOI has had practically zero input into the national team for decades anyway.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,660 Fr Tod Umptious
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    They could declare a lower level league to be the national league. Wouldn't make any difference as the LOI has had practically zero input into the national team for decades anyway.

    But nobody is saying anything about the LOI input to the national team,

    The point that is being made is about the existence of a national league! i.e the LOI.

    You're totally missing the point, again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 38,559 Hotblack Desiato
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    If all the clubs in the LOI premier withdrew, we'd still have a national league.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 D14Rugby
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    If all the clubs in the LOI premier withdrew, we'd still have a national league.

    Well they didn't say loi Premier did they they said loi so that's Premier and First division. In that scenario there is by definition of the remaining leagues no national league.

    Edit:Actually even if just the Premier division teams pulled out and the first remained the FAI would still be in trouble with UEFA because you need to allow for promotion to the top national division.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 dundalkfc10
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    They could declare a lower level league to be the national league. Wouldn't make any difference as the LOI has had practically zero input into the national team for decades anyway.

    Probabley 5 or 6 of our team on Saturday will have came through the LOI.

    No input in decades though


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