John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

givyjoe · 21-03-2019 08:11AM

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

You are either John Delaney or you are trolling. It's pretty simple. How anyone could defend that slimey *****.

I wouldn't bother lads. He was asking the very same questions 7 months ago in another thread. Multiple people gave him excellent reasons why both the fai and john Delaney were not fit for purpose/incompetent. Now he's back asking the very same questions, without any answers himself. Bizarre stuff.

The Talking Bread · 21-03-2019 09:20AM

I thought this guy had in his own words "given up" 3 days ago ?!
Pretty evident his motive here iso just to get the last word in an online debate.
So many contradiction laden povs

dundalkfc10 · 21-03-2019 12:03PM

Journo on twitter telling YBIG, that they have hundreds of documents from FAI and there’s more to come on this story

Irishmale0399 · 21-03-2019 04:43PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

No point debating with you as you have incorrectly summarized my position.

Position: FAI employee....Head of Sec. maybe???

Too much HuHu Super - Glue when you are here here..

Corholio · 21-03-2019 05:15PM

Declan Rice taking the heat off of John for a few hours anyway :P

Irishmale0399 · 21-03-2019 05:22PM

Corholio wrote: »

Declan Rice taking the heat off of John for a few hours anyway :P

Is he still singing OhhAhh Paul McGrath??

But he cant deflect from Super JD....see the FAI offered to take the meeting with government ministers forward to the 3 April.

Must be affraid more will come out.

Beechwoodspark · 21-03-2019 06:13PM

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=uZD8HKVKneI

I hear they are blasting this loud out in Abbotstown

CrowdedHouse · 21-03-2019 06:14PM

https://twitter.com/thephoenixmag/status/1108691455206477825

D14Rugby · 21-03-2019 07:41PM

I can see all the usual suspects are out defending Delaney as if their lives depend on it.

asteroids over berlin · 21-03-2019 08:30PM

disappointed with the cooment of An Taoiseach - tis a matter for the FAI to address. Pathetic

21-03-2019 08:59PM

I hope Delaney gets what is coming to him. Long overdue.

Faugheen · 21-03-2019 09:04PM

asteroids over berlin wrote: »

disappointed with the cooment of An Taoiseach - tis a matter for the FAI to address. Pathetic.

What's he supposed to say?

Fromvert · 21-03-2019 09:16PM

asteroids over berlin wrote: »

disappointed with the cooment of An Taoiseach - tis a matter for the FAI to address. Pathetic

FIFA would step in straight away and issue a warning that a ban will be coming if the government gets involved in the FAI. Spain got a warning recently because a government official said the RFEF should elect a new President.

kippy · 21-03-2019 09:29PM

Fromvert wrote: »

FIFA would step in straight away and issue a warning that a ban will be coming if the government gets involved in the FAI. Spain got a warning recently because a government official said the RFEF should elect a new President.

I suppose what he should have said was it was a matter for the FAI and the office of corporate enforcement/sport Ireland.
Saying it was a matter for the FAI essentially infers that they be let at it.

FIFA would want to keep their own house in order, but that's an entirely separate matter.

johnnyryan89 · 21-03-2019 09:34PM

Irishmale0399 wrote: »

Is he still singing OhhAhh Paul McGrath??

But he cant deflect from Super JD....see the FAI offered to take the meeting with government ministers forward to the 3 April.

Must be affraid more will come out.

How considerate of our John. Move the meeting forward and before the U17s Euro evening so now the committee can attend the free drinks evening. Such a nice gesture.

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-03-2019 09:44PM

kippy wrote: »

I suppose what he should have said was it was a matter for the FAI and the office of corporate enforcement/sport Ireland.
Saying it was a matter for the FAI essentially infers that they be let at it.

FIFA would want to keep their own house in order, but that's an entirely separate matter.

FIFA cut the head off their snake about 4 years ago.

And how has that worked ?

Not only has his successor continued with Qatar 2022 but he is also pushing to make it a 48 team tournament.

Irishmale0399 · 21-03-2019 10:04PM

johnnyryan89 wrote: »

How considerate of our John. Move the meeting forward and before the U17s Euro evening so now the committee can attend the free drinks evening. Such a nice gesture.

Affraid of what they might find with the seven extra days.....:D:D

kippy · 21-03-2019 11:01PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

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FIFA cut the head off their snake about 4 years ago.

And how has that worked ?

Not only has his successor continued with Qatar 2022 but he is also pushing to make it a 48 team tournament.

Ah you're back.
Are you suggesting that getting rid of the top man changed nothing for FIFA, so why get rid of the FAI top man?

FIFA didn't get their house in order as I've suggested. They got rid of a person who had become far too hot to handle. As I said they still have to get their house in order.

Fr Tod Umptious · 21-03-2019 11:33PM

kippy wrote: »

Ah you're back.
Are you suggesting that getting rid of the top man changed nothing for FIFA, so why get rid of the FAI top man?

FIFA didn't get their house in order as I've suggested. They got rid of a person who had become far too hot to handle. As I said they still have to get their house in order.

But the very same applies to the FAI

They have to get their house in order, and it has never been in order.

I'm not against Delaney going, of his own will or being pushed, but I don't believe that getting rid of him is the magic bullet that many think it is, nor do I think his replacement will suddenly be doing the job for half the salary.

Plus there is very little evidence so far to suggest that they guy has done anything improper.
Pissed people off yes, but nothing illegal.

Another poster posted a list of reasons why he should be sacked, most of the reasons were just gripes around ticket allocation.

Hardly a international season goes by here without some fans complaining about ticket allocation.
Only a few days ago someone was giving out about the FAI giving away free tickets, it would not surprise me if the same poster would be giving out about the lack of cheap tickets to a high profile game later on in the campaign.

As I said before, if people want real change, stop going to the games.

farna_boy · 22-03-2019 11:30AM

Maybe the solution to fixing the problem that is the FAI and John Delaney is just to create an all Ireland team under the primary guidance of the IFA.

Like Fr Tod Umptious said, removing JD is probably not enough. The culture built up in the FAI is not going to just dissipate after he goes and I don't expect we would see any meaningful change.

If there was enough support for this type of move, the way to force it through would be to get the LOI teams to join the IFA for the upcoming season. Without the LOI, there can be no national team.

There would of course be problems for the LOI teams if they did this, such as how to handle entry to European competitions but if it meant a real improvement to their situations, such as prize money, marketing support and proper governance, maybe they could be convinced to push it through.

OldMrBrennan83 · 22-03-2019 11:55AM

farna_boy wrote: »

Maybe the solution to fixing the problem that is the FAI and John Delaney is just to create an all Ireland team under the primary guidance of the IFA.

Like Fr Tod Umptious said, removing JD is probably not enough. The culture built up in the FAI is not going to just dissipate after he goes and I don't expect we would see any meaningful change.

If there was enough support for this type of move, the way to force it through would be to get the LOI teams to join the IFA for the upcoming season. Without the LOI, there can be no national team.

There would of course be problems for the LOI teams if they did this, such as how to handle entry to European competitions but if it meant a real improvement to their situations, such as prize money, marketing support and proper governance, maybe they could be convinced to push it through.

I sincerely hope you're joking. I'd take ten John Delaneys over selling out to that shower.

Oat23 · 22-03-2019 12:41PM

Merge with the Irish league. A league whose players routinely miss European games because they're on holiday in Ibiza.

What a suggestion.

Hotblack Desiato · 22-03-2019 01:20PM

farna_boy wrote: »

Without the LOI, there can be no national team.

Yep backbone of the team there :rolleyes:

Fr Tod Umptious · 22-03-2019 01:33PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

Yep backbone of the team there :rolleyes:

I think you misunderstood.

In order to have an international team a country needs a national league.

Fr Tod Umptious · 22-03-2019 01:34PM

farna_boy wrote: »

Maybe the solution to fixing the problem that is the FAI and John Delaney is just to create an all Ireland team under the primary guidance of the IFA.

Like Fr Tod Umptious said, removing JD is probably not enough. The culture built up in the FAI is not going to just dissipate after he goes and I don't expect we would see any meaningful change.

If there was enough support for this type of move, the way to force it through would be to get the LOI teams to join the IFA for the upcoming season. Without the LOI, there can be no national team.

There would of course be problems for the LOI teams if they did this, such as how to handle entry to European competitions but if it meant a real improvement to their situations, such as prize money, marketing support and proper governance, maybe they could be convinced to push it through.

That's nuts on so many different levels.

Hotblack Desiato · 22-03-2019 01:37PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

I think you misunderstood.

In order to have an international team a country needs a national league.

They could declare a lower level league to be the national league. Wouldn't make any difference as the LOI has had practically zero input into the national team for decades anyway.

Fr Tod Umptious · 22-03-2019 01:43PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

They could declare a lower level league to be the national league. Wouldn't make any difference as the LOI has had practically zero input into the national team for decades anyway.

But nobody is saying anything about the LOI input to the national team,

The point that is being made is about the existence of a national league! i.e the LOI.

You're totally missing the point, again.

Hotblack Desiato · 22-03-2019 02:01PM

If all the clubs in the LOI premier withdrew, we'd still have a national league.

D14Rugby · 22-03-2019 02:17PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

If all the clubs in the LOI premier withdrew, we'd still have a national league.

Well they didn't say loi Premier did they they said loi so that's Premier and First division. In that scenario there is by definition of the remaining leagues no national league.

Edit:Actually even if just the Premier division teams pulled out and the first remained the FAI would still be in trouble with UEFA because you need to allow for promotion to the top national division.

dundalkfc10 · 22-03-2019 02:30PM

Hotblack Desiato wrote: »

They could declare a lower level league to be the national league. Wouldn't make any difference as the LOI has had practically zero input into the national team for decades anyway.

Probabley 5 or 6 of our team on Saturday will have came through the LOI.

No input in decades though

John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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