John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

OldMrBrennan83 · 19-03-2019 08:38PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The mans a disgrace!

He earns a few grand less than the whole prize money in the LOI!

I pray to God he’s done something illegal and gets the book thrown at him!

Proper Protest needed Tues. They can’t stop 10,000 odd chanting about Delaney

The type of clientele at an international game won't even know this is happening.

dundalkfc10 · 19-03-2019 08:42PM

OldMrBrennan83 wrote: »

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The mans a disgrace!

He earns a few grand less than the whole prize money in the LOI!

I pray to God he’s done something illegal and gets the book thrown at him!

Proper Protest needed Tues. They can’t stop 10,000 odd chanting about Delaney

The type of clientele at an international game won't even know this is happening.

That’s true but if u include all the LOI fans, YBIG lad and lasses plus the few thousand more who want him gone it’s achievable.

I’m going Tuesday myself and I’ve a banner which will easily be brought in undetected, Just a matter of when to display it

Irishmale0399 · 19-03-2019 08:46PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

That’s true but if u include all the LOI fans, YBIG lad and lasses plus the few thousand more who want him gone it’s achievable.

I’m going Tuesday myself and I’ve a banner which will easily be brought in undetected, Just a matter of when to display it

Wouldnt talk about it too much....otherwise Glue will be searching and mind reading at the entrance to the stadium. He will be looking deep into your eyes and turning you away......no protests against the great leader.

larchielads · 19-03-2019 08:48PM

givyjoe wrote: »

Isn't he paid 350k per year?

Well then, there ye go everybody my point made even more

Irishmale0399 · 19-03-2019 08:49PM

Just read on another forum that JDs income (€160,000) from UEFA is now being paid directly to the FAI...add the €100,000 he gave as a loan and the fact he tried to get the injuction when mentioning divorce courts...........smells like someone is trying to hide something from the ex and kids.

On another note....how would it work if he donated the €160,000....would he get tax rebate on it or tax credits??? Is there a charity anywhere inside the FAI or linked to it???

kippy · 19-03-2019 09:05PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

Dougal..I mean Kippy, I had to explain to you why the story was negative for Delaney and the FAI like you were a six year old child with a learning disability.

Of course the story is negative and damaging to the FAI and JD. Thats why they attempted to block it.That is the very reason it warrant s further, deeper, independent analysis. Its not a minor 'nothing to see here' set of incidents, as you've been trying to claim in your previous posts. How you can believe anything coming from the FAI on this is laughable. I'd suggest a six year old child would at lest question what is going on here.

And again, I'd like to know whose money paid for the legal action and what the point of said legal action was.

A full and independent investigation by the proper authorities need to happen to give the public some confidence in what has gone on here.

Fr Tod Umptious · 19-03-2019 09:05PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The mans a disgrace!

He earns a few grand less than the whole prize money in the LOI!

I pray to God he’s done something illegal and gets the book thrown at him!

Proper Protest needed Tues. They can’t stop 10,000 odd chanting about Delaney

Go on then

As Delia said, let's be having you.

Organise it.

Augme · 19-03-2019 09:15PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

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I’m going Tuesday myself

This is your problem. Once you have paid and go then I doubt a protest is going to be much of a annoyance to them. If people actually wanted rid of Delaney they wouldn't attend full stop.

Irishmale0399 · 19-03-2019 09:23PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

That’s true but if u include all the LOI fans, YBIG lad and lasses plus the few thousand more who want him gone it’s achievable.

I’m going Tuesday myself and I’ve a banner which will easily be brought in undetected, Just a matter of when to display it

If you want to protest I will be in Tom Clarkes down the Quay for a few pints during the game (however they have what they wanted...your money).....will buy you a shot for every JD out banner or mass protest heard/seen from fans.

First away I will miss in nearly 4 years....but enough is enough.

Fr Tod Umptious · 19-03-2019 09:28PM

Augme wrote: »

This is your problem. Once you have paid and go then I doubt a protest is going to be much of a annoyance to them. If people actually wanted rid of Delaney they wouldn't attend full stop.

Exactly

Stop going to games, not just one low profile game, all games.

When season tickets are up for renewal don't renew them.

Don't buy merchandise, don't buy sponsors products etc.

If the amount of FAI/Delaney hatred here is anything to go by ye should make a impact in no time.

CrowdedHouse · 19-03-2019 09:31PM

https://twitter.com/MallowNews/status/1108097776167075848

Nesta99 · 19-03-2019 10:21PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

The mans a disgrace!

He earns a few grand less than the whole prize money in the LOI!

I pray to God he’s done something illegal and gets the book thrown at him!

Proper Protest needed Tues. They can’t stop 10,000 odd chanting about Delaney

I agree with your wishes but the guy will undoubtedly have every angle covered. The only chance is that he has been ducking and diving and getting away with all sorts (not illegal just morally bankrupt) and will have let his guard down. Maybe if other FAI board members start to feel the heat and self preservation kicks in he might get a bit of a shove for whatever that will be worth.

This will be spun as him delivering the FAI out of a hole and doing tearjerking selfless act for the organisation he loves more than the money he makes from it.

Where would you get it though, a guy payed way over the odds relative to similar positions in other countries giving a loan to his employers!? Even if he had said he took a temporary pay cut for a spell, and the association spun it as paying back pay it wouldnt cause such head scratching! As smart as they think they are they have made a ball of this one!!

dundalkfc10 · 19-03-2019 11:05PM

Augme wrote: »

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

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I’m going Tuesday myself

This is your problem. Once you have paid and go then I doubt a protest is going to be much of a annoyance to them. If people actually wanted rid of Delaney they wouldn't attend full stop.

Free Ticket (have never been to Lansdowne Rd or Aviva unless Dundalk were playing or cup finals)

Going soley for the purpose of the banner along with another 2 Dundalk fans

Corholio · 20-03-2019 12:48AM

Unfortunately I could never see an Irish national team protest working in Ireland. You will always get the 'How dare you not support your country, I'll be going rain, hail or CEO taking dodgy money' crowd who only see the football part blindingly. The 'I don't support John Delaney (but in reality do), I support Ireland' etc.

Strumms · 20-03-2019 02:14AM

Delaney is going to have to walk the plank pure and simple. My initial thoughts were the biggest concern here has to be as an organization how nobody saw fit to blow the whistle before now. Or was there a drip down trickle effect of payoffs to others in the lower management of the FAI either in perks or cash to hush up. We could be rotten further down then we think too. Wouldn’t be too sorry to see fûckers get involved with the Gardaí, loosing your job and reputation might be only a minor inconvenience compared to loosing your liberty.

Nesta99 · 20-03-2019 03:19AM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

Free Ticket (have never been to Lansdowne Rd or Aviva unless Dundalk were playing or cup finals)

Going soley for the purpose of the banner along with another 2 Dundalk fans

Careful now! JD might start disliking us and shaft us somehow:mad: Go dressed in Waterford gear and confuse him lol
On a serious note it is this type of fear that he has created that cemented his position. Anybody who speaks out he will do all he can to make life as difficult as possible, usually by not allowing grants applications be successful. Any real protests need to come from the entire footballing community if the cabal is to be truly broken! Maybe his lives have run out. There is the impression that there are some people in government, Sport Ireland that are looking for something to create change. So far the PAC has had a pop and will have another one now it seems. Sport Ireland could pull financial support.

Corholio · 20-03-2019 06:47PM

Some of Delaney's defenders seems to think that just because people may want him out that they also have to come up with a comprehensive document on how and what form the F.A.I. will take and even then it can just be disagreed with and be called 'dummies'. Same with the O'Neill out saga, nobody could possibly be good enough to replace O'Neill and again whinged about because supporters didn't have some comprehensive multi page plan on how Irish football should be run and therefore everyone was wrong.

Fr Tod Umptious · 20-03-2019 07:09PM

Corholio wrote: »

Some of Delaney's defenders seems to think that just because people may want him out that they also have to come up with a comprehensive document on how and what form the F.A.I. will take and even then it can just be disagreed with and be called 'dummies'. Same with the O'Neill out saga, nobody could possibly be good enough to replace O'Neill and again whinged about because supporters didn't have some comprehensive multi page plan on how Irish football should be run and therefore everyone was wrong.

Well not really.

For as long as I can remember the FAI have been a mess, it's not just since Delaney took over.

Therefore just replacing Delaney is not going to necessarily get the results most people want.

And what is the result people want anyway ?

Ask anyone why they want Delaney out and they will tell you "he is over paid" and some other waffle about "the LOI"

The guy/gal who replaces him will be just as well compensated and the LOI has been a basket case since Delaney was a child.

So what do people want after "Delaney out" ?

shanec1928 · 20-03-2019 07:11PM

https://twitter.com/BarryLenihan/status/1108422103680933888

Fr Tod Umptious · 20-03-2019 07:14PM

shanec1928 wrote: »

https://twitter.com/BarryLenihan/status/1108422103680933888

Yeah that's hilarious.

The FAI invite the Dail committee members to dinner and drinks a week before JD is due to testify.

Dots1982 · 20-03-2019 07:16PM

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

So what do people want after "Delaney out" ?

They don’t know, most can’t even put a decent case together of why he should go, they’ll attack anyone who asks them for the reasons why he has failed irish football and if ireland suddenly started winning games they’d be the first to abandon their calls for his sacking and become silently complicit cheerleaders again for the Irish team.

While some of us here actually analyze the situation and realize there’s a large amount that will remain completely the same if Delaney goes unless you put a strategy together of what you want after he goes.

givyjoe · 20-03-2019 07:20PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

They don’t know, most can’t even put a decent case together of why he should go, they’ll attack anyone who asks them for the reasons why he has failed irish football and if ireland suddenly started winning games they’d be the first to abandon their calls for his sacking and become silently complicit cheerleaders again for the Irish team.

While some of us here actually analyze the situation and realize there’s a large amount that will remain completely the same if Delaney goes unless you put a strategy together of what you want after he goes.

Oh well youve sold me.. let the joker stay so.

Dots1982 · 20-03-2019 07:25PM

givyjoe wrote: »

Oh well youve sold me.. let the charlatan stay so.

Why bother get rid when you’ll get the next in line from the FAI on the exact same money with the exact same cronies.

Look you don’t have to respect my opinion but I’m not going to respect yours unless you have a plan for Irish football.

What we should be discussing is how to improve Irish football. Is there anyone with ideas of how to do that? Or is the plan to just sack Delaney and then we automatically have a bright shining future.

Corholio · 20-03-2019 07:56PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

They don’t know, most can’t even put a decent case together of why he should go, they’ll attack anyone who asks them for the reasons why he has failed irish football and if ireland suddenly started winning games they’d be the first to abandon their calls for his sacking and become silently complicit cheerleaders again for the Irish team.

While some of us here actually analyze the situation and realize there’s a large amount that will remain completely the same if Delaney goes unless you put a strategy together of what you want after he goes.

There's been plenty of cases here over a long period of time over why Delaney has been skating by for years as a self serving, incompetent, overly paid leader of a largely unsuccessful plethora of football levels. Just because you put together a 'plan', regardless if it's vague, madcap or not, doesn't mean your opinion is any stronger than any others. It's long been said that the F.A.I. has needed a huge shakeup for many years, back when O'Byrne was there and before him. Please don't act as if some 'plan' and 'analysing' on a message board is somehow better than other peoples opinions. You'd disgaree with any varying argument anyway and call them Dummies. It's like O'Neills reign all over again.

There's been lots and lots of posts of people with ideas on the Ireland thread here about how things could change, to act as if your some sort of visionary is ridiculous.

Dots1982 · 20-03-2019 08:02PM

Corholio wrote: »

There's been plenty of cases here over a long period of time over why Delaney has been skating by for years as a self serving, incompetent, overly paid leader of a largely unsuccessful plethora of football levels. Just because you put together a 'plan', regardless if it's vague, madcap or not, doesn't mean your opinion is any stronger than any others. It's long been said that the F.A.I. has needed a huge shakeup for many years, back when O'Byrne was there and before him. Please don't act as if some 'plan' and 'analysing' on a message board is somehow better than other peoples opinions. You'd disgaree with any varying argument anyway and call them Dummies. It's like O'Neills reign all over again.

Ok, all that’s worth listening to here in my opinion is ideas on how to improve Irish football. That’s where we can find interesting things to discuss.

Obviously the topic is called John Delaney so it’s not like you shouldn’t discuss him but as I say all I find interesting now is ideas around the game here. I think that’s fair enough.

dundalkfc10 · 20-03-2019 08:45PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

They don’t know, most can’t even put a decent case together of why he should go, they’ll attack anyone who asks them for the reasons why he has failed irish football and if ireland suddenly started winning games they’d be the first to abandon their calls for his sacking and become silently complicit cheerleaders again for the Irish team.

While some of us here actually analyze the situation and realize there’s a large amount that will remain completely the same if Delaney goes unless you put a strategy together of what you want after he goes.

There's a list as long as your arm why he should go.

Anytime someone mentions them, you seem to ignore it.

These are just some from another forum.

Andorra – there is no general admission tickets going on sale, don’t travel to Andorra. Lies
· John Delaney saying he wants to appoint a fans liaison officer after this game to ensure ticket gate doesn’t happen again – there already is an FLO in place and other people have been rejected by the FAI to take up this role
· The Chief Security Officer and Commercial and Marketing Director both promising fans in Georgia they would get tickets whom were subsequently declined
· John Delaney saying you would need the wisdom of Solomon to distribute tickets despite YBIG offering a transparent scheme
· John Delaney saying that he tried to get YBIG to become a supporters club but not actually outlining the bare fact that supporters clubs were allocated tickets in priority to any other supporters
· John Delaney saying he doesn’t get a personal allocation. Plenty on here have got tickets directly off him. Indeed, I did for Andorra - after the tickets were allocated
· John Delaney not acknowledging the fact that Scotland gave us 5% or what is required by UEFA regulations
John Delaney saying Trap would be gone after the Faroes away match. Instead, he was allowed oversee another disastrous 11 months
John Delaney saying that the FAI system of giving preference to Supporters Clubs is used by all the top clubs

Singing IRA songs and pretending it wasnt him can be added to that list

Even the BBC are reporting it now. The prick might finally be gone.

givyjoe · 20-03-2019 09:03PM

Dots1982 wrote: »
Why bother get rid when you’ll get the next in line from the FAI on the exact same money with the exact same cronies.

Look you don’t have to respect my opinion but I’m not going to respect yours unless you have a plan for Irish football.

What we should be discussing is how to improve Irish football. Is there anyone with ideas of how to do that? Or is the plan to just sack Delaney and then we automatically have a bright shining future.

With that kind of 'logic', I'm not really concerned if you respect my option, as youve zero credibility with that kind of nonsense post. Accepting utter incompetence at best, corruption at worst, is beyond contemptible. I don't need a plan, I'm not the 350k a year CEO.

Dots1982 · 20-03-2019 09:12PM

dundalkfc10 wrote: »

There's a list as long as your arm why he should go.

Anytime someone mentions them, you seem to ignore it.

These are just some from another forum.

Andorra – there is no general admission tickets going on sale, don’t travel to Andorra. Lies
· John Delaney saying he wants to appoint a fans liaison officer after this game to ensure ticket gate doesn’t happen again – there already is an FLO in place and other people have been rejected by the FAI to take up this role
· The Chief Security Officer and Commercial and Marketing Director both promising fans in Georgia they would get tickets whom were subsequently declined
· John Delaney saying you would need the wisdom of Solomon to distribute tickets despite YBIG offering a transparent scheme
· John Delaney saying that he tried to get YBIG to become a supporters club but not actually outlining the bare fact that supporters clubs were allocated tickets in priority to any other supporters
· John Delaney saying he doesn’t get a personal allocation. Plenty on here have got tickets directly off him. Indeed, I did for Andorra - after the tickets were allocated
· John Delaney not acknowledging the fact that Scotland gave us 5% or what is required by UEFA regulations
John Delaney saying Trap would be gone after the Faroes away match. Instead, he was allowed oversee another disastrous 11 months
John Delaney saying that the FAI system of giving preference to Supporters Clubs is used by all the top clubs

Singing IRA songs and pretending it wasnt him can be added to that list

Even the BBC are reporting it now. The prick might finally be gone.

Fair enough, some of the reason above are fairly small fry.

Here is some other things happening in the world of football with FAs now and over the past few years.-

Bosnia are without a kit deal going into this round of matches.

Serbia sacked their manager ahead of the World Cup after winning their group and replaced him with Mladen Krstajić for whom it was the first job in management.

The Spanish FA sacked their manager Lopetaigui the day before the World Cup and slumped in the tournament.

The German FA have been accused of racism by Ozil.

The English FA have had to sack managers and coaching staff over comments in press stings, racism and an unspecified issue regarding harassment of female players.

Let’s sit back and enjoy the Wikipedia page of the Italian FA president Carlo Tavecchio from 2014-18

On 7 October 2014, Tavecchio was banned by UEFA for racist remarks for six months:

"England identifies the subjects that come in, if they have the professionalism to get them to play, but we say that Opti Poba[a] came here, that before he ate bananas, now plays holder in Lazio and that's okay. In England he must demonstrate its curriculum and its pedigree ...."[8]

He was not allowed to hold any position in UEFA, and was barred from the UEFA Congress of March 2015.[9]

On 1 November 2015, an audio tape of Tavecchio became public, in which he disparages Jews and gays.[10]

Tavecchio has been tried and convicted five times since 1970.

In 1970, he was sentenced to four months for forgery of credit title
In 1994, he was sentenced to twenty eight months two days for tax evasion and value-added tax
In 1996, he was sentenced to three months for failure to pay social security deductions and insurance
In 1998, he was sentenced to three months for omission or falsification of reports
In 1998, he was sentenced to three months for abuse of office for violation of anti-pollution regulations[11][12]

Now to Greece-

Greek Football Federation members Theodoros Kouridis, and Georgios Sarris are suspected of directing a criminal organization since 2011. The goal behind their scheme was to "absolutely control Greek football's fate by the methods of blackmailing and fraud",[2][3][4][5][6][7] exploiting the self-governing ("autonomy") status of national football federations promoted by FIFA and UEFA. Referees, judges, football directors and chairmen are also involved in the scandal.

So we have issues with our CEO and other countries’ have theirs as well.

kippy · 20-03-2019 09:33PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

Fair enough, some of the reason above are fairly small fry.

Here is some other things happening in the world of football with FAs now and over the past few years.-

Bosnia are without a kit deal going into this round of matches.

Serbia sacked their manager ahead of the World Cup after winning their group and replaced him with Mladen Krstajić for whom it was the first job in management.

The Spanish FA sacked their manager Lopetaigui the day before the World Cup and slumped in the tournament.

The German FA have been accused of racism by Ozil.

The English FA have had to sack managers and coaching staff over comments in press stings, racism and an unspecified issue regarding harassment of female players.

Let’s sit back and enjoy the Wikipedia page of the Italian FA president Carlo Tavecchio from 2014-18

On 7 October 2014, Tavecchio was banned by UEFA for racist remarks for six months:

"England identifies the subjects that come in, if they have the professionalism to get them to play, but we say that Opti Poba[a] came here, that before he ate bananas, now plays holder in Lazio and that's okay. In England he must demonstrate its curriculum and its pedigree ...."[8]

He was not allowed to hold any position in UEFA, and was barred from the UEFA Congress of March 2015.[9]

On 1 November 2015, an audio tape of Tavecchio became public, in which he disparages Jews and gays.[10]

Tavecchio has been tried and convicted five times since 1970.

In 1970, he was sentenced to four months for forgery of credit title
In 1994, he was sentenced to twenty eight months two days for tax evasion and value-added tax
In 1996, he was sentenced to three months for failure to pay social security deductions and insurance
In 1998, he was sentenced to three months for omission or falsification of reports
In 1998, he was sentenced to three months for abuse of office for violation of anti-pollution regulations[11][12]

Now to Greece-

Greek Football Federation members Theodoros Kouridis, and Georgios Sarris are suspected of directing a criminal organization since 2011. The goal behind their scheme was to "absolutely control Greek football's fate by the methods of blackmailing and fraud",[2][3][4][5][6][7] exploiting the self-governing ("autonomy") status of national football federations promoted by FIFA and UEFA. Referees, judges, football directors and chairmen are also involved in the scandal.

So we have issues with our CEO and other countries’ have theirs as well.

Christ, yet again the logic and attempted distraction tactics being displayed by yourself and your colleague on here are PR tactics 101.
Look over there, things have always been "bad" here. What difference will change make?

It's disgusting.

kippy · 20-03-2019 09:35PM

Dots1982 wrote: »

Ok, all that’s worth listening to here in my opinion is ideas on how to improve Irish football. That’s where we can find interesting things to discuss.

Obviously the topic is called John Delaney so it’s not like you shouldn’t discuss him but as I say all I find interesting now is ideas around the game here. I think that’s fair enough.

Ideas on how to improve Irish Football?

1. Get rid of JD and the board of the FAI.
Starting point.

John Delaney at the FAI Thread - (Mod Notes in OP)

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